A much needed intervention for McG

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Night at the Museum was always the top favorite of taking the #1 spot this weekend.

That's waht I thought. I wanted TS to be a big hit but i knew NATM 2 wasn't to be underestimated.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Night at the Museum was always the top favorite of taking the #1 spot this weekend.

No it wasn't.

Coming soon, Boxoffice guru and the admittedly dumb boxoffice prophets all had it at number one. Even Fox thought that it was going to beat out Museum over the weekend.

Lets not rewrite history here.

 

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this post (mostly the portion in bold) blows my mind. All fanboys DO is ***** and moan about how a director isn't being faithful to the source material or films that have come before it. I feel bad for every director who makes a new franchise or comic film - they're typically f'ed if they do, f'ed if they don't - crucified now matter what they do.

I don't see how mcg wasn't faithful to the source material . he also made several references to the other films and it looked like he tried to give us the best action he could.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Bryan Singer wasn't faithful even remotely to source material and made two pretty piss poor films in general that were part of what should've been a great franchise, and both were box offices successes and fans praised him for it...McG gave me a far better franchise film than both of those combined, I don't blame him for its financial disappointment, if anything I'd blame the same generic public that thinks X2 is great cinema is Transformers is "great entertainment."

 

[Tony Stark]

Brian Singer was faithful to the source materials for X-men, but not for Superman Returns.

McG is a hack director who never should have had the reigns to begin with.

The problem with TS isn't that it violated the source material. The problem is, the whole movie comes off as some bad fan fiction story.

 

[Wiseman]

Brian Singer was faithful to the source materials for X-men, but not for Superman Returns.

Wait, what???? Singer was hardly faithful to anything in the X-Men universe. He was much more faithful to Superman. This is the same guy who thought that superhero costumes from comics would look stupid in a real life movie and then gave Superman his stupid costume, complete with the taking off the glasses to reveal he's Superman. I'm happy that the X-Men costumes were too "unrealistic" but a guy taking off his glasses seems perfectly ok

 

[Tony Stark]

Wait, what???? Singer was hardly faithful to anything in the X-Men universe. He was much more faithful to Superman. This is the same guy who thought that superhero costumes from comics would look stupid in a real life movie and then gave Superman his stupid costume, complete with the taking off the glasses to reveal he's Superman. I'm happy that the X-Men costumes were too "unrealistic" but a guy taking off his glasses seems perfectly ok

Using comic book costumes doesn't make it faithful. He had the weapon-X story, he nailed the Xavier/Magneto rivaly. He had problems with Summers, but he's not responsible for any of the crap in X3.

He was not faithful to Superman in any way, shape, or form. The guy basically made a 2 1/2 hour tribute to the first Superman movie. Easily the worst Superhero movie made, because it can't stand on it's own.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Yeah he was faithful other than the fact that he turned Cyclops, Jean and Storm into 1D interchangeable cardboard cut-outs, turned Wolverine into an incompetent generic tough guy that couldn't back up his bs because he gets his ass handed to him everytime he fights a mutant, made Rogue and Iceman utterly useless to the team and just there for little parlor tricks and a little teeny bopper puppy love story, Mystique and Sabretooth had no personality whatsoever...

few of them even resembled the great characters that they were based on. Half hour eps of the animated series captured the essence of the characters better than 90 minute to 2 hour films by this hack; the writing was mediocre at best and the direction was bland as can be.

Marcus has more substance as a character than anyone other than Magneto and Xavior in those films.

Singer is a hack that never deserved the reigns to begin with...unfortunately most fans were apparently satisfied with bare minimum material...X3 sucked too, but the only difference between that and the first two is it doesn't get a bunch of undeserved ass-kissing.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Brian Singer was faithful to the source materials for X-men, but not for Superman Returns.

Yeeeeah.... Not really.

In the comics, Sabretooth isn't Big Foot.

 

[The Dark Defender]

And the characters in general aren't interchangeable and 1D...those films are plagued by so many overwhelming flaws that costume designs are the least of the problem.

 

[Project862006]

the difference between singer and mcg is singer actually ha talent and does drama very well.His films didn't need gigantic action scenes for it to be good the story was the core of his films

 

[The Dark Defender]

I find drama more effective with characters that aren't 1D and interchangeable...Marcus brought far more heart to Terminator than the guy that shoots red stuff out of his eyes, the black chick that fires lightning, or the white chick that moves stuff ever did to the X-Men films, because that was the extent of how the great dramatic director Bryan Singer characterized them.
Other than their powers, there's nothing distinctive to set them apart from one another as people...which there would be if handled by a talented filmmaker that were so good with character dynamics and storytelling.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah he was faithful other than the fact that he turned Cyclops, Jean and Storm into 1D interchangeable cardboard cut-outs, turned Wolverine into an incompetent generic tough guy that couldn't back up his bs because he gets his ass handed to him everytime he fights a mutant, made Rogue and Iceman utterly useless to the team and just there for little parlor tricks and a little teeny bopper puppy love story, Mystique and Sabretooth had no personality whatsoever...

few of them even resembled the great characters that they were based on. Half hour eps of the animated series captured the essence of the characters better than 90 minute to 2 hour films by this hack; the writing was mediocre at best and the direction was bland as can be.

Marcus has more substance as a character than anyone other than Magneto and Xavior in those films.

Singer is a hack that never deserved the reigns to begin with...unfortunately most fans were apparently satisfied with bare minimum material...X3 sucked too, but the only difference between that and the first two is it doesn't get a bunch of undeserved ass-kissing.

And I thought that I didn't get the love for those flicks!

the difference between singer and mcg is singer actually ha talent and does drama very well.His films didn't need gigantic action scenes for it to be good the story was the core of his films

It's too bad the story and drama in Superman Returns sucked.

Listen, I'll take Singer over McG when it comes to drama but when it comes to action movies they are both pretty even IMHO. I might give Singer the edge. I'd take Terminator Salvation over the first X-Men movie and Superman Returns...for now. I think that I could hate the movie on a second viewing so I'm leaving my options open.

 

[CFE]

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[The Dark Defender]

Ugh...I find those films sickeningly overrated. I cringe everytime I hear "Bryan Singer" and "great characters" mentioned in the same damn sentence. Easily one of the most overrated and incompetent mainstream filmmakers to ever step behind the camera.

 

[DorneyDave]

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[I SEE SPIDEY]

Ugh...I find those films sickeningly overrated. I cringe everytime I hear "Bryan Singer" and "great characters" mentioned in the same damn sentence. Easily one of the most overrated and incompetent mainstream filmmakers to ever step behind the camera.

Agreed.

 

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Wow, there sure is a lot of win in this thread.

*Leaves*

 

[Project862006]

x2 is not overrated majority of comic fans love it and put it in top5 or even top3 of best comic book movies ever and not to mention a 88% RT rating so critics likes it too

also i find singer to be the most underrated film makers today

 

[The Dark Defender]

Uh...yeah, that's what overrated means. Overrated films are films that you dont' feel are very good that are widely praised.

If a film isn't well received, it's rather difficult for it to be overrated.

I'm well aware of how POPULAR the films are...and that's the point. I don't feel that they deserve it, hence why I was explaining why they I don't feel they're very good with filmmaking criticisms rather than statistics...hence, overrated.

 

[Project862006]

k, that's your opinion and your entitled to it

 

[Wiseman]

I have no problem saying I like the first 2 X-Men films. I even would go as far as to say I love the 2nd one. Just don't patronize me and say that they were "faithful" to the comics, or that Bryan Singer gets the characters. I enjoy them as movies that are well-made, not well made adaptations of X-Men

 

[Lighthouse]

From everything I can tell of McG from his interviews, he seems like a nice guy, and I think that's his big problem. He really wants to please people, and I usually find that the best directors are......well, dick heads. I listen to the Bale's angry tirade, but all I could think about was how McG was actually dropping the ball. Can you imagine that kind of crap happening on Cameron's set? Did Nolan really even give a **** about fandom when he was making "The Dark Knight"? Great director's when they are on set are total *******s, and honestly, they have to be, especially for blockbusters.

 

[Project862006]

i agree on that tony stark said those comments i just think singer found a balance with his films

 

[The Dark Defender]

I have no problem saying I like the first 2 X-Men films. I even would go as far as to say I love the 2nd one. Just don't patronize me and say that they were "faithful" to the comics, or that Bryan Singer gets the characters. I enjoy them as movies that are well-made, not well made adaptations of X-Men

That's actually my major problem with them, I think that they're very bad films...and even worse adaptions.

I never saw either Charlies Angels film, they looked horrible and the bits and pieces I saw on tv were horrible, but I love T:S and I don't think McG deserves half the crap he's had thrown his way over this film.
I think it's a visually stunning adventure with plenty of heart. I was as moved by the ending of this film as I was by the first two.