ACORN: The Official Thread

Marx said:
It's from the AP...I'd rather not. You can find it on HuffingtonPost.com though.
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I'm just sort of curious, why would you rather not post it?
 
Kurosawa said:
Well, the better alternative is to try to get rich somehow, best method is by being the biggest greediest *****e you can be. Whoever said money can't buy happiness was a damned idiot.
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I'd rather die poor with a loving family than rich and alone. That may just be me and my foolish family values, but I do think there's a lot of misplaced desire people have for material wealth. It's easy to say "money doesn't buy happiness is a bunch of bull" if you've never been rich, and never had to endure the unique set of miseries that come with immense wealth. That's not to say you can't be happy and have money, but not having money doesn't mean you have to be miserable, and being rich doesn't mean you won't still be miserable.
 
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Matt said:
I'm just sort of curious, why would you rather not post it?
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The AP is closely watching all articles from them on the internet. They have rules in the works about hotlinking their articles,as well as posting more than 5 words from their articles, including the title.
 
Matt said:
I'm just sort of curious, why would you rather not post it?
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Kel said:
The AP is closely watching all articles from them on the internet. They have rules in the works about hotlinking their articles,as well as posting more than 5 words from their articles, including the title.
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What Kel said.
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Kel said:
The AP is closely watching all articles from them on the internet. They have rules in the works about hotlinking their articles,as well as posting more than 5 words from their articles, including the title.
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Marx said:
What Kel said.
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Thanks for the heads up. How do you find out about stuff like this?
 
I think Kel actually told me about it. I had no clue.
 
I mean, how would you have a clue unless you browsed the AP everyday? I wonder what the punishment would be for posting the article on this board? Not from mods but the AP.
 
Exactly, Para. I can't remember what the 'punishment' is. I think it's a fine for so many words posted from an actual AP article.
 
Alright, well, at least I now know and hopefully a few others that read this thread. Thanks again, ladies and jelly spoons.
 
ACORN sues over funding cut

A non-profit organization filed a lawsuit against the federal government Thursday morning, seeking to overturn a law stopping the flow of federal funds to ACORN.


The suit, filed in federal court in New York, claims that bills passed by the House and Senate to defund the group qualify as bills of attainder, legislation that unfairly targets one group. Such bills are unconstitutional.


The suit will seek to restore funding and roll-back the ban, which was passed as part of the legislative branch appropriations bill in September.


ACORN claims that the legislation was of “malicious and punitive intent.” The suit also claims Congress violated the Fifth Amendment by skirting due process before doling out the punishment of the funding cut. OMB Director Peter Orszag and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner are listed as co-defendants in the suit.


Efforts to defund ACORN became popular among Democrats and Republicans after conservative activists caught the organization’s employees in several offices advising actors posing as a pimp and politician, along with his prostitute girlfriend, on how to evade taxes and set up a brothel.


Sen. Mike Johanns (R-Neb.) and others in Congress quickly moved to ensure no federal funds were steered to the group – measures that got support from even the most ardent liberals like Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.).


The lawsuit, which was brought by the Center for Constitutional Rights, says that ACORN has been subject to “heavily funded and orchestrated political campaigns.”


But this effort represents a complete reversal from ACORN, which emphasized to reporters and the public that the money it received from the federal government was not essential to its existence.

Now the group is taking a bold step to restore its federal funding by accusing Congress of violating the Constitution.


The court filing claims ACORN has been bruised badly by the legislation. It says it has had to lay off employees, close offices and “drastically” reduce services.


But the complaint also offers a small peak into and how much ACORN truly relies on the government for money. It cites FEMA pulling back roughly $1 million in funding for fire safety assessments after the legislation passed. The filing also shows that the organization lost out on a $780,000 EPA grant to educate poor communities about asthma and a separate grant to set up public computer centers for the poor in five cities.


And the suit highlights a few members of Congress as being especially critical of the group. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) is cited as having “(attacked) ACORN for years.” It quotes Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.) trying to tie President Barack Obama to the group. And it cites Republican Reps. Steve King (Iowa) and Todd Akin (Mo.) calling a Obama campaign poster in ACORN’s headquarters a “Jeremiah Wright moment.”

Successful cases proving a bill of attainder are rare in the United States, said Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University who successfully argued the last attainder case in 2003.


Turley said ACORN has a “legitimate claim” for asking a court to overturn the law, on the standing that barring the organization from receiving funds could be considered “legislative punishment.” Congress has equally compelling arguments, he said, but may have acted in haste because it did not hold hearings and create a complete record documenting ACORN’s misconduct.

“Congress may wish it had acted with a bit more deliberation,” Turley said.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29436.html
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:dry:
 
Acorn has more right to your money than you do sillies.
 
I think the only thing that is going to help ACORN shed all of this corruption backlash is to do a HUGE, sweep of all of their offices, nationwide. Close down completely those offices that are being investigated. Fire anyone that even has a smell of corruption, and try and move on. I would also fire all of their top national people and start over.

Anything less than that will not do the trick...
 
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RULES WHITE HOUSE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO FUND ACORN UNDER EXISTING CONTRACTS

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/us/politics/28acorn.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1259355860-u1P2DRmPrdFQwFuMP5+Gww

:dry:. Wow, this is shaping up to be the most ethical, efficient, and competent Justice Department ever. And you guys thought it couldn't get better after the whole ignoring voter intimidation caught on live camera in 2008, giving speeches to foriegn entities under FBI investigation, threatening to throw CIA agents under the bus, deciding to prosecute 9/11 war criminals as civil criminals, and admitting openly that Osama bin Laden under conditions may have to be read his rights. :dry:
 
If they are continuing with the contracts, then ACORN's actions must not have violated any terms of those contracts.
 
SentinelMind said:
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RULES WHITE HOUSE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO FUND ACORN UNDER EXISTING CONTRACTS

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/us/politics/28acorn.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1259355860-u1P2DRmPrdFQwFuMP5+Gww

:dry:. Wow, this is shaping up to be the most ethical, efficient, and competent Justice Department ever. And you guys thought it couldn't get better after the whole ignoring voter intimidation caught on live camera in 2008, giving speeches to foriegn entities under FBI investigation, threatening to throw CIA agents under the bus, deciding to prosecute 9/11 war criminals as civil criminals, and admitting openly that Osama bin Laden under conditions may have to be read his rights. :dry:
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I'm so surprised...

Marx said:
If they are continuing with the contracts, then ACORN's actions must not have violated any terms of those contracts.
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I don't think that is necessarily true...it is becoming quite evident that this administration's right hand, has absolutely no idea what it's left hand is doing.

It would not surprise me AT ALL, that we find out down the line that many of these contracts are so tainted, and dirty that it will make our stomach's turn, AND even find out that the adminstration KNEW ABOUT THE DIRT...and still continued.

I'm not saying that Obama knows this, because as I said the right hand and left hand of this administration are not communicating very well these days, IMO.
 
Wonderful - now they'll pull a Value-Jet and the general public won't know what's what.
 
Ocramed said:
I wouldn't worry about these guys. What's left will be re-organized, especially since they got what they primarily want: Obama-care.

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That is exactly what is happening.....them closing is such BS, they aren't going anywhere, it will just be a name change.

I agree with the judge that said that pulling their Federal funds was not kosher, but they damn sure better be watched closer than their "change of name" predecessor.
 
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