All US cars MPH to be limited to 80 as max speed

[Calvin]

I'm not talking about the time it takes for you to get from one spot to another going such and such speed, I'm talking about the time it takes for the driver of the car to react. Like it or not, most accidents happen because the driver isn't paying attention to what he/she is doing and reacts to a situation far too late to change the outcome. If your a good driver, like you should be if your out driving on a highway populated with children like this scenario, then you should be able to move the car from one lane to another fast enough to avoid the kid.

I know you were talking about the actual reaction time, that's why I called it sidestepping. While the speed of the car doesn't affect his human reaction time, it does affect the margin of error he has, so it's a pretty huge deal. People are flawed, you can't sit back and say "we shouldn't make rules, people should just drive perfectly." People will never be perfect, you need to make rules that take that into account in order to save lives.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

So your saying we should have things like say .. speed limits on our roads? Don't we already have those?

 

[Calvin]

Yeah, clearly they're working perfectly. If we've got speed limits on all our roads, and those are rules, not suggestions, then what's the point in having personal cars that can go a hundred miles per hour over those limits?

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

Because any engine that runs near its limit breaks down alot quicker then a car thats only going half as fast as it can.

 

[huskerwebhead]

Outside of emergency vehicles and the very rare absolute emergency (getting someone to the hospital, fleeing for your life, whatever) there is no acceptable reason for going over the limit.

But, your right, let's put inhibitor chips in all the cars! While we're at it, lets put scales in front of all the fast food joints...if you're too fat you're stuck with a salad and a slim fast. And let's put chips in cigarettes so that if there is someone within a 20 foot radius it won't light up. Or a beer that checks your blood alcohol to see if you're too drunk...and if you are the alcohol evaporates and you're left with an O'Douls!! Or how about standard 32 inch TVs...no more 56inch plasma or 60 inch rear projection. They just take up space and use too much energy. We don't really NEED any of these things...let's lock it all down!!!


Sorry...went on a rant.

 

[Calvin]

Because any engine that runs near its limit breaks down alot quicker then a car thats only going half as fast as it can.

There's bound to be a way to limit the top speed without just making them all with deficient engines.

 

[Calvin]

Outside of emergency vehicles and the very rare absolute emergency (getting someone to the hospital, fleeing for your life, whatever) there is no acceptable reason for going over the limit.

But, your right, let's put inhibitor chips in all the cars! While we're at it, lets put scales in front of all the fast food joints...if you're too fat you're stuck with a salad and a slim fast. And let's put chips in cigarettes so that if there is someone within a 20 foot radius it won't light up. Or a beer that checks your blood alcohol to see if you're too drunk...and if you are the alcohol evaporates and you're left with an O'Douls!! Or how about standard 32 inch TVs...no more 56inch plasma or 60 inch rear projection. They just take up space and use too much energy. We don't really NEED any of these things...let's lock it all down!!!


Sorry...went on a rant.

What an idiotic overreaction. We're talking about something that would limit the number of instantaneous accidental deaths. However, if they did make a beer glass that checks your alcohol level after each beer and could identify whether you're safe to drive or not, I'd be all for them being used in bars everywhere.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Speed regulators = cops.

thats the problem, the speed regulator should be the driver.

How fast you are going does NOT affect your reaction speed. If your going 70mph and it takes you a second to respond to someone braking, when you're going 30mph its still going to take a second to respond to the same situation. The funny thing is they teach you to speed up and turn sharply to avoid things in the road, not to slow down.

but the slower your going, the more time you have to react. and if you need to suddenly stop, the slower you're going the sooner you stop.

and to make a general statement in regards to what some people have said: no one is suggesting this as a solution to the problem. there clearly is no definitive solution. but it would drastically enforce and ensure safer driving, which will save lives.

 

[X-Chick]

hm... yeah... economy > safety and/or life... that makes sense.

Yeah, because it makes so much sense to trash our own economy so that possibly, not that its likely, one or two people less might die each year. Besides, when the economy goes so do jobs and money, which means more people will become poor, depressed, homeless, etc.

 

[Motown Marvel]

i dont think this would have too great of an effect on the car companies. i mean, if every car could only go 80, thats not gonna cause anyone to buy the toyota over the ferrari. the ferrari/high end cars still have numerous unique and glamerous attributes that people would still be willing to pay through the nose for. most people dont buy those cars for the speed (though they enjoy the IDEA of speed), they buy them to show off that they have the money to buy it......and because their penis is small.

 

[Calvin]

This wouldn't destroy the economy. You don't have to recall every car and change this, but a gradual change by making all new cars with this feature would still make a big difference, especially given time. If you think something like that would destroy the economy, you're being silly.

 

[X-Chick]

This wouldn't destroy the economy. You don't have to recall every car and change this, but a gradual change by making all new cars with this feature would still make a big difference, especially given time. If you think something like that would destroy the economy, you're being silly.

No, you're being unrealistic. Why would anyone want a car with a top speed of 220 when you can only go 80? Yes, people might still buy a Ferrari for the looks or prestige, but what get that when you can buy a Beamer and still get the luxury, and the "I have more money than you" display piece and spend $70k less? And I never said it would destroy it, since cars aren't one of our primary money-makers, but it would hurt it.

 

[FunBobPants]

why would the cops need to go faster than us if we already have to go over 80

 

[X-Chick]

why would the cops need to go faster than us if we already have to go over 80

English please.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

All American cars should be 80's to the max.

 

[Pirate_Robinson]

I read a report stating that the Autobahn has a ratio of 5% less deaths per hundred thousand miles than American roads. So much for your theory.

 

[Calvin]

No, you're being unrealistic. Why would anyone want a car with a top speed of 220 when you can only go 80? Yes, people might still buy a Ferrari for the looks or prestige, but what get that when you can buy a Beamer and still get the luxury, and the "I have more money than you" display piece and spend $70k less? And I never said it would destroy it, since cars aren't one of our primary money-makers, but it would hurt it.

I might be mistaken here, but I'm pretty sure the majority of super-fast luxury cars, like Ferrari, aren't american.

 

[Calvin]

I read a report stating that the Autobahn has a ratio of 5% less deaths per hundred thousand miles than American roads. So much for your theory.

The attempt at logic in this post is really pathetic.

 

[huskerwebhead]

This wouldn't destroy the economy. You don't have to recall every car and change this, but a gradual change by making all new cars with this feature would still make a big difference, especially given time. If you think something like that would destroy the economy, you're being silly.

It may not destroy it, but it would hurt it. And likely not just ours, but the automakers that we import from as well. Provided they go along with our new laws and we still import them at all. A change like this that would take a VERY long time to propagate out. I can stand up in my office here and count 9 people in a room of about 15 that haven't bout a "new" car in 6 or more years.

And I don't see why anyone would buy a new car with that limitation versus an older one without it. That being said, how would authorities enforce a phased rollout? If some cars are still allowed to be without the limitation because they are older cars, what's to stop someone from then modifying a new car and just playing it off like it never had one installed?

 

[passerby]

I don't understand why every car can go 100 MPH or more and the speed limit never allows them to go that fast.

 

[Motown Marvel]

i think any damage to the car industry would be short lived. i mean, a few years after being enacted, people will be used to it and wont ive it much thought anymore.

And I don't see why anyone would buy a new car with that limitation versus an older one without it. That being said, how would authorities enforce a phased rollout? If some cars are still allowed to be without the limitation because they are older cars, what's to stop someone from then modifying a new car and just playing it off like it never had one installed?

i think the best way to go about it would be:

-its mandatory for all cars after "year x" to be manufactured with whatever chip.

now, for those who have/buy an older car without chip:
- you get pulled over once for speeding, the driver can choose between paying the ticket fine or choose to pay for modifications to car.
-drive gets pulled over a second time, same choice.
-driver gets pulled over a third time, they MUST pay both the ticket AND its now mandatory for them to get said modifications made. and since this is ont heir driving record, whatever new car they buy either has to have the chip or they have to have it installed.

 

[Calvin]

It may not destroy it, but it would hurt it. And likely not just ours, but the automakers that we import from as well. Provided they go along with our new laws and we still import them at all. A change like this that would take a VERY long time to propagate out. I can stand up in my office here and count 9 people in a room of about 15 that haven't bout a "new" car in 6 or more years.

And I don't see why anyone would buy a new car with that limitation versus an older one without it. That being said, how would authorities enforce a phased rollout? If some cars are still allowed to be without the limitation because they are older cars, what's to stop someone from then modifying a new car and just playing it off like it never had one installed?

What's stopping anyone from breaking laws? Just because some people will break it doesn't mean we shouldn't try. Should we give up on murder laws because some people get away with it? And sure, it could take a while, but at least it would be progression. Why does everything have to be an instant solution? It's better than no solution at all. Sure, a lot of people will opt for old cars, but they can't last forever. Plus, I'd bet a HELL of a lot of families would opt for the new ones because they'd want their kids to be safer.

Regarding imports, we just keep them from being street legal. IF rich people really need that stuff, they can buy them but keep them off the road and stick to exhibitions or test tracks or whatever. If those companies see too much a decline in sales, they can adapt and make some US street legal versions to sell.

Do I think this will ever happen? No, we're far too money-driven a nation. We can't even be assed to worry about global warming and possible world-wide catastrophe because it would affect big companies too much.

 

[Motown Marvel]

i think any damage to the car industry would be short lived. i mean, a few years after being enacted, people will be used to it and wont ive it much thought anymore.

And I don't see why anyone would buy a new car with that limitation versus an older one without it. That being said, how would authorities enforce a phased rollout? If some cars are still allowed to be without the limitation because they are older cars, what's to stop someone from then modifying a new car and just playing it off like it never had one installed?

i think the best way to go about it would be:

-its mandatory for all cars after "year x" to be manufactured with whatever chip.

now, for those who have/buy an older car without chip:
- you get pulled over once for speeding, the driver can choose between paying the ticket fine or choose to pay for modifications to car.
-drive gets pulled over a second time, same choice.
-driver gets pulled over a third time, they MUST pay both the ticket AND its now mandatory for them to get said modifications made. and since this is ont heir driving record, whatever new car they buy either has to have the chip or they have to have it installed.

 

[Duende Verde]

All American cars should be 80's to the max.

Hell Yeah!

 

[huskerwebhead]

Do I think this will ever happen? No, we're far too money-driven a nation. We can't even be assed to worry about global warming and possible world-wide catastrophe because it would affect big companies too much.

Exactly!