Are we really any different from sports fanatics?

No of course not. I'm a comic book fan too.

But the things comic book fanantics get worked up over are inherently more silly than what sports fans get worked up over, iin general.
 
I just guess I don't have much sympathy for nerds. It's not as though comics have ever been "cool" for teenagers and young adults. If you feel unfairly treated because girls avoid you in your X-Men T-Shirt I'd say you should probably look in the mirror and grow a sense of humor. It's silly after all. I think when people complain about how unpopular comics are they're actually complaining about how nerds aren't usually social enough to be cool in the first place. It really is possible to wear superhero gear and be cool, you just have to work on your personality instead of trying to mimick Batman.
 
I just guess I don't have much sympathy for nerds. It's not as though comics have ever been "cool" for teenagers and young adults. If you feel unfairly treated because girls avoid you in your X-Men T-Shirt I'd say you should probably look in the mirror and grow a sense of humor. It's silly after all. I think when people complain about how unpopular comics are they're actually complaining about how nerds aren't usually social enough to be cool in the first place. It really is possible to wear superhero gear and be cool, you just have to work on your personality instead of trying to mimick Batman.

Translation: i got nothing constructive to add anymore, so i just gonna insult you.

Looks like debating isn't your strong suit...but hey, being a sport fanatic that you are, i should've expected that:cwink:
 
Good grief , man! you're either completely clueless or you only hangs out with the real life version of the comic book guy from the Simpsons. NO comics fans worth his or her salt, THESE DAYS, still hunting that 'first appareance'issues on the bargain bins:doh: That kinda crap only happened in the 90's. Ask Rob Liefeld.


And ..all sport fans wants is to create awesome memories? i think i just got sugar -shock just by reading that line...
If first appearance items were not holy grails they wouldn't be worth any money.
 
No of course not. I'm a comic book fan too.

But the things comic book fanantics get worked up over are inherently more silly than what sports fans get worked up over, iin general.

Like i mentioned in my post, the CB fans that are here, are by no means representative of CB fans as a whole. Not all of us likes to hang around in forums and ***** the whole time.

And just so we're clear, I'm NOT dissing ALL sport fans...

All i'm saying is, BOTH sides discussed here are more than capable of being morons.

Like a wiseman once said, fools seldom differs.:oldrazz:
 
Translation: i got nothing constructive to add anymore, so i just gonna insult you.

Looks like debating isn't your strong suit...but hey, being a sport fanatic that you are, i should've expected that:cwink:
I'm wearing an X-Men T-Shirt right now! I just don't feel this convenient hypocrisy that everyone else claims is there.
 
If first appearance items were not holy grails they wouldn't be worth any money.

Ok..let me clue you in on how this ***** works...as 50 cents would've said.

Those thing you mentioned happened during the late 90's...when comic industry were almost destroyed by 'collector's mentality' Comics publishers floods the market with gimmicks and...first appeareances crap that you mentioned.It drove the fans away and nearly collapsed the industry.But it's over now...thank god.

And what do we, comic fans, gets excited about these days you asked? well...i can only speak for myself, and most other CB fans that I know of...

We get excited for thing like...upcoming storylines...and if our fav.. writer or artist are slated to take on a new book...that kinda thing.

So no'first appearances'..and or wheter 'Batman gonna fight Superman , dude!'kinda crap.

So...hope that helps.
 
I'm wearing an X-Men T-Shirt right now! I just don't feel this convenient hypocrisy that everyone else claims is there.

I get what you're trying to say. And i think it's because both sides got blinders on.

Why don't we just agree that both sides got more that fair share of...funny people. And in that regard, perhaps we're not so different afterall ( yeah, i really typed that...if you listens real close, there's a violin playing on the background)
 
So whose dad is winning now?
 
I get what you're trying to say. And i think it's because both sides got blinders on.

Why don't we just agree that both sides got more that fair share of...funny people. And in that regard, perhaps we're not so different afterall ( yeah, i really typed that...if you listens real close, there's a violin playing on the background)
As I say, on paper the basic premise of both sports fandom and comic fandom is not that different, but in reality they certainly are different. I don't think it's an accident that sports garnered the amount of money, prestige and popularity that they did. Sports are a naturally social activity, and it's also a much larger, much more real and all encompassing activity. So there are a lot of natural differences between it and comics. Comics are a very passive, solitary activity and service a much smaller niche' of people. Certainly you're very right to point out that sports has it's fair share of wackos, but you can devote a lot of times to sports or sport related activities without it becoming weird. There really is nothing wrong with being a nerd or being weird for that matter. If you're going to have a million Star Wars figures you don't play with I would simply reccommend having a sense of humor about it. The problem with most nerds isn't that they have daft hobbies, many people do, the problem is most of them are incredibly defensive about it. The reason most people who have very active social lives tend to shun nerdiness is because being a nerd is very time and money consuming. I'm selling all my collections now because as an adult I want the money to go do things, like go to Miami next week. I'm not selling them because I hate them though, but I no longer require their presence to remember the emotions I felt for them at one time. My actual need for money outweighs my emotional attachment. I would contend it is a little odd to be emotionally attached to things like toys (past childhood) or fictional characters from children's entertainment (like superheroes). Much moreso than it is to become emotionally attached to something real, like a person, town or team. Both can become weird, but one is sort of weird from the get-go.
 
what he said
For me selling my toys is the ultimate act of love for my collections because I have purposfully found a buyer who will appreciate them more than me. The act of me collecting them has been giving purpose by, in effect, making someone else happy.
 
You can dance around it all you want, but the fact of the matter is that idolizing and worshiping a flesh and blood person is viewed as less crazy than the same with a fictional one.

Key words: viewed as.

Crazy is crazy.
 
Imagination has endless potential, if you've seen one sporting event you'e seen them all.
 
Key words: viewed as.

Crazy is crazy.
Yeah, but it also kind is a little more crazy, hence why it's viewed as such. It's a somewhat bizzare emotional attachment. Teams and fans do interact, on both a incidental and direct level. Comic characters and fans do not. You're emotional attachment is one sided, and therefor a tad bizzare. Both, as I say, can go too far, but one starts out weirder than the other.
 
Imagination has endless potential, if you've seen one sporting event you'e seen them all.
No:huh:, that's like saying "if you've read one comic, you've read them all". Actually, in truth, you will never see the same sporting event twice (live).

I would gather you don't watch or play sports.
 
Comics contain much more definitive "good guys" and "bad guys" (which I why I love Walking Dead for not doing that), whereas in sports I rarely see the other team as "villains" or "evil", despite the fact that I dislike them.
 
Reasons for rooting for one team over another are almost always trivial.

This group of strangers are from the same city or school as me therefore they must win over that other group of strangers.
 
Reasons for rooting for one team over another are almost always trivial.

This group of strangers are from the same city or school as me therefore they must win over that other group of strangers.
That's human nature in a nutshell though, that's hardly trivial, it's primal. The world doesn't possess comic evil, it's all shades of gray and most people fight over reasons that are fairly "trivial".
 
it kind of is

*sigh* okay...

Key words: viewed as.

Crazy is crazy.

Kind of my arguement in a nutshell.

I'd never say that my obsessive fandom of comics isn't weird. I think i'm very bloody weird. I just don't understand why obsessive fandom of sports is considered so normal, and even in some cases the definition of being 'cool.'

I mean, the guys I went to uni with used to spend hours and hours together on a game of 'football manager' (probably more an English thing, I dunno). They'd talk about it all the time. They would get very angry at people who missed a time slot they'd allocated for playing it.

And then I look at things like 'world of warcraft' and how much of a 'geek' stigma it has (not that I play myself), and I think 'why is there such a big difference?'

It's the same way I see any fandom.

If you have an unnaturally large 'love' of something, and you think about it all the time, talk about it all the time, want to buy all the merchandise, go to all the events, argue about which person is better than another blah blah... then it should all fall under the same bracket of Fandom... and one shouldn't be labelled as uncool over another.
 
it's considered normal because sports is socially acceptable...at least in the larger societal picture
 
That's all well and good, but what you're buying at a sports event is not material. Even if you inherited a comic collection, and never paid for a comic it would still be materialistic. You live in a capitalist society, or course things cost money, but if you spend all your money on things you don't tangibly keep you could never be accused of being materialistic. Comics are a highly material hobby. It's hard to sell yourself as a comic fan if you never buy them, although maybe the Internet will change that some. Sporting events are just events, unless you purchase a bunch of fangear at games, they simply cannot be material possessions.
Just because you don't tangibly OWN something after the sporting event, that doesn't make it materialistic. A true emotional event doesn't require any money to enjoy. A materialistic passion is one that requires giving a great deal of material value (like currency) for something susceptible to either of your five senses (including food and music). That doesn't automatically make it BAD, but materialistic nonetheless.

Again, those who actually still "collect" comics don't do it for the physical comic - either they do it for the investment/gamble (in the sports world this would be equivalent to betting on a game) or for the "experience" of owning the issue. You can easily sit back and poke at the stereotype and say "sports fans take a more normal approach" to their practices, but to compare stereotype to stereotype would have been much more appropriate.

The truth is that both hobbies are a materialistic one. They can entice an emotional reaction, yes - but they are still materialistic.

Sheesh man, it seems like you're trying to argue that sporting events are practically spiritual.... :whatever:
 
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they can be......

but again, no different than someone claiming they had tears of joy whilst watching The Dark Knight
 
Just because you don't tangibly OWN something after the sporting event, that doesn't make it materialistic. A true emotional event doesn't require any money to enjoy. A materialistic passion is one that requires giving a great deal of material value (like currency) for something susceptible to either of your five senses (including food and music). That doesn't automatically make it BAD, but materialistic nonetheless.

Again, those who actually still "collect" comics don't do it for the physical comic - either they do it for the investment/gamble (in the sports world this would be equivalent to betting on a game) or for the "experience" of owning the issue. You can easily sit back and poke at the stereotype and say "sports fans take a more normal approach" to their practices, but to compare stereotype to stereotype would have been much more appropriate.

The truth is that both hobbies are a materialistic one. They can entice an emotional reaction, yes - but they are still materialistic.

Sheesh man, it seems like you're trying to argue that sporting events are practically spiritual.... :whatever:
No. No offense, you're just pettifogging a pretty obvious distinction. "Events, time, restaurants" - Not material goods. "Toys, games, cars, books" - Highly material. If you want me to flip this on it's head.

Buying a bunch of Tom Brady jerseys - materialistic
Going to see a Superhero movie in theaters - not materialistic.

It's seriously not hard to understand.

Also don't tell me comic fans don't place emphasis on owning tangible comics. As I say, maybe the internet will change this, create a breed of fans who is happy to read them and store them temporarily on a harddrive rather than have an actual collection. Sports fans can get along just fine without tons of "stuff", toy collectors and comic book nerds can't, or it's much harder. Comic nerds have very strong emotional attachments to "things" (and imaginary people). True, I have a lucky shirt that's had a pretty epic history for which I'm very attached, but otherwise I don't. I know you guys hate that I keep pointing it out, but your hobby simply does not appeal to socially active people by and large.
 
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