The Dark Knight Batcycle

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GoogleMe94 said:
all im gonna say is, i liked the glider cape in Returns more. it had a cooler, battier shape too it and wasnt made of a cloth, it was a more sturdier material and i thought it looked better. the scene where he stands on the ledge all iconic like and pulls it out and flys among the bats beats anything bale did with his cape in begins, at least for me. the whole electrical current thing is too hokey.
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Why do you consider it "hokey" when it's actually based on science (even if somewhat of an extrapolation)? The glider thing in Returns is what looked hokey, because it looked too fake and out-of-nowhere.

Retroman said:
I'm kind of stunned that they released this image so early on and think this Batpod (what kind of name is that?:huh: )
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Gotham22 said:
looks cool but has stupid name the batpod. Like the batmobile, the tumbler
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Can we please stop talking as if Bruce, Lucius, and Alfred are actually going to call it the "Batpod"? Thanks.

GoogleMe94 said:
anyone else sick of calling what should be the "batmobile", the tumbler? when will they start calling it the batmobile? . . . well the it was never called the tumbler in the comics.
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Lots of people give vehicles a nickname, especially if the design is something unusual. So that's believable. What's also believable, though, is if the cops and Gothamites start calling it the "Batmobile." I don't think Bruce himself would, but others very well might.

i think you forget that its a movie based on a superhero. i think your letting this whole idea of everything being "realistic" get to your head.
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I honestly don't think you get the point. "Realistic" in a superhero film doesn't mean everything has to literally be "real"; it means that it has to be believable. It's totally believable that on a particular occasion Batman would use an actual glider similar to Returns. What's not believable is that in one shot you see Keaton in the regular Bat-getup; in the next shot this glider appears out of nowhere and you know bloody well it could not have actually emerged from the cape we were being shown. Therefore the ultimate effect was cheesiness.

these kinds of films demand fantasy elements. if you take that all away, it becomes boring and uneventful. which is why i wasnt crazy about begins.
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There were plenty of fantasy elements - or what I like to call in a non-magical movie "larger than life." You had a secret, history-spanning organization of Ninjas who destroy crime-infested cities, and you had a billionaire decide to become a "larger than life" vigilante with amazing gadgetry as well as Ninja-training. The thing is that most of the story elements in Begins were portrayed in a believable fashion. Therein lies the difference.

anyway, i agree about making batman too "high tech". one of the things i liked about burtons films was the nostalgic, retro feel of not only the city, but of batmans equipment. it was high tech to a certain extent, but it looked more simpler and not as modern and tech-y as the stuff in nolans films.
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You simply don't like the more (note the word "more") realistic interpretation Nolan is giving the character - but there's nothing wrong with that interpretation. If you don't prefer it, well, nobody has any argument with that, but you at least have to admit it's a difference in preferences - not something "wrong" Nolan is doing.

you cant have villians like manbat or clayface or anyone who has these superpowers. thats what gripes me about this whole realism thing.
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What's wrong with a more realistic interpretation of a vigilante story? There have been actual vigilantes in real life, so why not a somewhat plausible vigilante story in the Batman mold? After all, even in the realm of the comics some Batman stories are more realistic than others.

doesnt mean i dont like batman, i just dont like nolans vision for him.
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That's the first sensible thing you've said yet. You've just described your own preference, and nobody can ever argue against your own preference.

burton was the first to make batman dark and gritty with his 2 films. begins was OK, but burtons movies are still my favorites. i havent seen a darker batman film then Returns.
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I guess it was dark in a thematic kind of way, but it depends on what we mean by "dark." I'm not trying to be difficult here, but think about it: lots of fantasy stories are "dark" - but are they as dark as a real-life blood-curdling crime wave you hear about on the news? The point is that a dose of realism, while not as "big" or with as much of a dramatic flair as a fantasy story, can in its own way actually be darker because you could almost (almost) imagine it happening. Because Begins was easier to imagine actually happening than Returns, that made Begins darker for me.

i was hopeing that nolan would make batman more, well, batty for the sequel. doesnt have to go schumacher nuts, do more of what burton did, add a small little batsymbol on the hubbcaps, maybe a symbol hangin on the batcave, little batman-ish stuff like that. but so far, nadda. underwhelming indeed.
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Again, just admit that you don't like the interpretation of Batman grounded in realism. If you admit that, and alter the way you frame your opinions so that it's clear that it's just your preference - I'd give you no further argument. But you're making it sound as if there's something fundamentally "wrong" with Nolan approaching it this way, and that's just a lame position.

nickyg641 said:
I think it would be funny if Gordon starts calling it the Batmobile, as a joke.
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I could actually see that happening, and yes, it would be funny.

nickyg641 said:
While it does look okay, I'm going to say that this could be another example of Nolan "over-technifying" Batman. And by overtechnifying, I mean relying too much on gadgets and supersuits that look like they can do everything. Batman should rely more on his brain and his muscle to fight crime.
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In a context of realism, this makes no sense. An ordinary man wanting to survive as a vigilante, and having scads of money he can put to good use, would definitely want to take as much advantage of cutting-edge technology as possible. So Nolan's approach here is totally believable. What you're asking for is a character who makes unbelievable, and unwise decisions. That's not Bruce Wayne.

Excel said:
kinda surprised noones noticed this; but this seems like its the inside of the thing batman went down into to drive on the rooftops and shoot the canons
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This has been pointed out many times.

SmileX said:
I'm one of the people that thought Nolan spent too much time showing the birth of an adult bruce wayne and batman. I know it was called Batman Begins but I feel he could have sped things up a bit.
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This makes me question your stamina for serious drama. Begins packed a lot of story-telling elements into what was actually a rapid pace, so I'm not sure why you would think it needed to be "sped up."

We all know the Batman story so Nolan could have used that advantage to speed it up. . . . The first Spiderman movie was simple and to the point.I agree but too much still bores me. We all know how he came to be so way spend half the movie telling us again? The people that don't know are just casual viewers. Do they really care or do the just want action?
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Begins took approximately the same time in developing the origin story as Spider-Man did; neither of them appeared in the final version of his suit until about halfway through. And why would you assume that casual viewers "just want action"? First of all, a good number of them will want a solid story with a character whose motives and decisions make sense. Nolan accomplished that. Secondly, there's never been a big-screen portrayal of Batman's origin, so there's nothing wrong at all with Nolan wanting to tackle that, and the fact is that it was handled well.

SmileX said:
I thought the Tumbler was total crap, especially its origin in the movie. In Nolans vision Bruce is just taking all of Wanye Enterprises prototypes and using them. Not even modifying them to change or hide it's original shape. Nolan wants reality but leave a huge paper trail that leads right back to Bruce Wayne. Especially after having the Tumbler seen on the news.
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That's a fair point. Based on the way events were portrayed, it shouldn't be too hard for a decent investigator to figure out that Bruce Wayne is Batman, or at least somebody connected with Wayne Enterprises.

screena said:
i´m afraid as long as the batman movies are only about selling toys, we will always get those silly "have to have a car chase in it" kind of movies.
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By that reasoning, you shouldn't like most movies, actually. Most movies, especially action-adventure ones, are at least somewhat derivative in terms of their broad ideas: revenge, shootouts, hand-to-hand combat, chases. Nothing new to those concepts; but a new approach to them is what's enjoyable. There are lots of car chases in the history of TV and movies - but not lots of good car chases. I've never seen The French Connection, but I know its car chase is famous; three other stand-outs in my mind are the chases in Ronin, Die Hard 3, and The Matrix Reloaded. And since we had never before seen a live-action Batman car chase that had actually looked respectable, I was very pleased with the Tumbler's "public" introduction in Begins.

Wesyeed said:
Why no thug can just grab batman's cape and just drag him to the floor defeats all these realism claims easily. plus a bunch of other factors like how the tumble mobile simply turns off its lights and becomse the inviso-jet...

that required a hell of a stretch in logic from me.
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Wait a minute, aren't you one of those who want a more fantasy-styled Batman? If so, then shouldn't you be glad when some implausibilities like that appear in a Nolan-Batman film? So what is it you really want, a greater dose of fantasy, or for Nolan to be consistent?

I'mmmmmmmmmm hoping things get more serious and batman-oriented this time than bruce wayne oriented.
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It was totally appropriate to show Bruce Wayne's pre-Bat development, and it was portrayed well.

Baba Ghanoush said:
That's one thing I like about Nolan's approach. Rather than design a vehicle and then make it do things, he figures out what he wants done and then designs a vehicle to suit that purpose. This thing should rock on screen.
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Very well said. In the history of superhero films, that is an innovative approach (no matter what people say about Superman the Movie, which was a very mixed bag: Supes was done right, but the Luthor side of the story was ridiculous). Nolan asks himself what a non-powered vigilante would need to get the job done (albeit with theatrics added to the whole thing, hence the bat motif) - and then he designs the vehicles and gadgets to accomplish that larger mission.
 
Saint said:
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Sorry to quote such a large image but is that a left foot i see propping the bike up?
 
there i no way that the bike is in the tumbler
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i dont care if nolan personal comes to me and says it....until i dont see it i wont belive it :o
 
dark_b said:
there i no way that the bike is in the tumbler
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i dont care if nolan personal comes to me and says it....until i dont see it i wont belive it :o
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Woah.. woah.. woahy..

Someone said that the batcycle is gonna depart from the tumbler a la BR's batmoblie two-wheel car thingy?

Boooo.
 
ad101867 said:
Wait a minute, aren't you one of those who want a more fantasy-styled Batman? If so, then shouldn't you be glad when some implausibilities like that appear in a Nolan-Batman film? So what is it you really want, a greater dose of fantasy, or for Nolan to be consistent?

My point was that the heavy emphasis on realism and "oh we have to ground it in reality" view is nonsense since batman is always unrealstic. I'm not saying make him goofy, but allow him to be legendary and evoke that mythic quality more than the rather boring and mundane ordinary real life tone, make it more theatrical.

It was totally appropriate to show Bruce Wayne's pre-Bat development, and it was portrayed well.

The physical aspect perhaps. I didn't see any development of his incredible intellectual abilities. Nevertheless, I'm ok with that as long as he just proves he's world's greatest detective, I don't need five minutes of him studying. Hopefully we just get right to the meat in dark knight without more origin.
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that bike Rocks, pretty much fits into what he already has in terms of vehicle taste.

thw wheels look very simmilar to the tumbler
 
Just looking at the photos you can see that the BatPod's tires are the same as those on the Tumbler. I'm pretty sure this gives credit to the idea that the BatPod is built from the Tumbler. I don't think it transforms like other's suggestion. More like they used the parts of a destroyed or incapacitated Tumbler.

AzBat
 
AzBat said:
Just looking at the photos you can see that the BatPod's tires are the same as those on the Tumbler. I'm pretty sure this gives credit to the idea that the BatPod is built from the Tumbler. I don't think it transforms like other's suggestion. More like they used the parts of a destroyed or incapacitated Tumbler.

AzBat
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I hope you're right AzBat.
 
AzBat said:
Just looking at the photos you can see that the BatPod's tires are the same as those on the Tumbler. I'm pretty sure this gives credit to the idea that the BatPod is built from the Tumbler. I don't think it transforms like other's suggestion. More like they used the parts of a destroyed or incapacitated Tumbler.

AzBat
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that's exactly what i was thinking. i haven't been keeping track of the story or the production but i'd hate to think Nolan would be using an idea that's similar to something we've already seen before (Batman Returns, which was also part 2). i love the idea of them using salvaged parts from a destroyed Batmobile...
 
Im just seeing this thing now. Good god what an abomination. What the hell is that thing? And what's a "batpod"? Doesn't look very nimble or manueverable, which was the point of a batcycle I thought.
 
SolidSnakeMGS said:
Im just seeing this thing now. Good god what an abomination. What the hell is that thing? And what's a "batpod"? Doesn't look very nimble or manueverable, which was the point of a batcycle I thought.
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Well the stunt guy seems to feel it is very maneuverable from the interview he gave,the pod name we think comes from it being a kind of escape pod inside the Tumbler
 
How will Batman collect the wreckage from the Tumbler if it is indeed blown up?

Won't the cops have sealed off the area?
 
no cape? jesus. so it'll retract like some reverse toilet paper dispenser? nice. that's gotta be comfortable.
 
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