Batman: Arkham Knight

[blueharvest]

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I wonder... what if instead of doing the "Scarecrow threatens X and causes everyone to leave" plot, they did a version of No Man's Land instead? Maybe Scarecrow kidnaps and uses Poison Ivy to cause an earthquake in Gotham and plants spring up that spread spoors containing a version of his toxin that is like a virus, which is why the government declares the city a no man's land. Batman is trapped and has to find the cure for the virus and stop The Scarecrow.

 

[TheVileOne]

No Man's Land was a really great story. Part of that was that it left Gotham City in ruins. It was giant Earthquake that came out of nowhere, and all the heroes could really do is clean up in the aftermath.

 

[Mani-Man]

A true No Mans Land story, could have been cool yeah.
One of the things i like about Citys map is that its so broken up and all.
I think a broken Gotham would have been more interesting than an abandoned one.
But then i assume the Batmobile wouldnt have worked.

Anway, those of you who have the game on pc...you really gotta give Mods a chance.
The incredible suits that people have created for Knight, is crazy.

Batman - Returns 1992 Movie Suit (New Suit Slot)

Recreating the original costume from the Tim Burton movie is already in play.Play as Michael Keaton's Batman from the movie Batman Returns.

www.nexusmods.com

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Mani-Man]

Didnt they just 4 months ago start Working on a New game? Strikes me as too soon for any rumors.
I would take that of course, but considering the game whatever it is would only be revealed in 2 years or what, im Not getting too excited.

But i would be on Board for Sure for a New batman game.

 

[TheVileOne]

Didnt they just 4 months ago start Working on a New game? Strikes me as too soon for any rumors.
I would take that of course, but considering the game whatever it is would only be revealed in 2 years or what, im Not getting too excited.

But i would be on Board for Sure for a New batman game.

No. The word was they were "pitching" a new single-player game.

Secondly, they no longer deserve the benefit of the doubt. None of the people responsible for the old Arkham Trilogy are even there anymore.

 

[Mani-Man]

No. The word was they were "pitching" a new single-player game.

Secondly, they no longer deserve the benefit of the doubt. None of the people responsible for the old Arkham Trilogy are even there anymore.

Im talking about that Linkedin thing where allegedly a Rocksteady developer has updated theirs by stating they work on a new game for rocksteady.

Benefit of doubt isnt even there because it is so early in development that i dont think about good or bad or anything alike.
I will decide what my feelings on Rocksteady are once they reveal whatever they work on and all.
When it comes to it, im not sure if its good or bad that the team who worked on the arkham games isnt around anymore...especially considering my favorite arkham game came from WBM.

We will see where this goes, for me its too early to think further ahead.

 

[blueharvest]

Im talking about that Linkedin thing where allegedly a Rocksteady developer has updated theirs by stating they work on a new game for rocksteady.

Benefit of doubt isnt even there because it is so early in development that i dont think about good or bad or anything alike.
I will decide what my feelings on Rocksteady are once they reveal whatever they work on and all.
When it comes to it, im not sure if its good or bad that the team who worked on the arkham games isnt around anymore...especially considering my favorite arkham game came from WBM.

We will see where this goes, for me its too early to think further ahead.

Too bad Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker left Rocksteady last year. If this rumor is true about another Batman Arkham game, it would have been nice to see them in charge of this game.

 

[Mani-Man]

Too bad Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker left Rocksteady last year. If this rumor is true about another Batman Arkham game, it would have been nice to see them in charge of this game.

I dont know, Sefton Hill is seemingly part of the reason why Arkham Knight isnt as good as it could be.
Didnt he take part in writing the Story and was the main driving force behind the Batmobile focus?
We never really heard much about Jamie Walker, he always was more in the background so i cant really say how much involvement he had.
Sefton was more prominent in interviews etc.

The question is also if this will be Arkham.
Because that the rumor words it specificly Batman and not Arkham, is a bit strange i would say.
If its not Arkham then i dont find the idea too bad if those two arent involved.

But we will have to wait and see how this turns out.

 

[TheVileOne]

Im talking about that Linkedin thing where allegedly a Rocksteady developer has updated theirs by stating they work on a new game for rocksteady.

Benefit of doubt isnt even there because it is so early in development that i dont think about good or bad or anything alike.
I will decide what my feelings on Rocksteady are once they reveal whatever they work on and all.
When it comes to it, im not sure if its good or bad that the team who worked on the arkham games isnt around anymore...especially considering my favorite arkham game came from WBM.

We will see where this goes, for me its too early to think further ahead.

I don't recall the LinkedIn thing, so I don't know about it.

 

[Mani-Man]

I don't recall the LinkedIn thing, so I don't know about it.

According to it, in June 2024 Rocksteady employees mentioned a new project that started that month.
The Rumor about the pitch of a new game came also around the same time.

 

[TheVileOne]

So seems to be a continuation of the earlier rumors of a new single-player game. My concern is how ready is Rocksteady for this? Does current management know what they are doing? What does the company even look like now after the Suicide Squad disaster? Are they really up for this challenge? My other concern is that none of the main creative minds behind the previous Arkham games are even at the studio. They aren't the Rocksteady of 2009 that created Arkham Asylum.

Frankly, I'd probably be more excited if I heard that Saber Interactive was doing a new Arkham game.

 

[Mani-Man]

So seems to be a continuation of the earlier rumors of a new single-player game. My concern is how ready is Rocksteady for this? Does current management know what they are doing? What does the company even look like now after the Suicide Squad disaster? Are they really up for this challenge? My other concern is that none of the main creative minds behind the previous Arkham games are even at the studio. They aren't the Rocksteady of 2009 that created Arkham Asylum.

Frankly, I'd probably be more excited if I heard that Saber Interactive was doing a new Arkham game.

All good questions.
One thing i think at least will be different than with Suicide Squad, is the toxic positivity will be gone.
I think they learned their lesson there and will be more critical etc.

The rest we just cant be sure because we dont know what the project is.
If they will do something totally new or go with the Arkham base.
How much is WBD involved, what is their demands and so on.

Arkham Origins and as it looks Arkham Shadow, show that you dont need the same creative minds to do something good...but it still would be a huge thing to tackle Batman again as Rocksteady.
It puts a lot of pressure onto the studio, especially after Suicide Squad.
Rocksteady has to deliver now, not just with the IP but in general after Suicide squad failed.

 

[TheVileOne]

All good questions.
One thing i think at least will be different than with Suicide Squad, is the toxic positivity will be gone.
I think they learned their lesson there and will be more critical etc.

The rest we just cant be sure because we dont know what the project is.
If they will do something totally new or go with the Arkham base.
How much is WBD involved, what is their demands and so on.

Arkham Origins and as it looks Arkham Shadow, show that you dont need the same creative minds to do something good...but it still would be a huge thing to tackle Batman again as Rocksteady.
It puts a lot of pressure onto the studio, especially after Suicide Squad.
Rocksteady has to deliver now, not just with the IP but in general after Suicide squad failed.

I think some of that toxic positivity comes from people at Warner Bros. Discovery who have no idea what they are looking at when it comes to gaming. They have no experience with gaming and they don't know what gamers like or want. They look at these high-resolution graphics or clips on Unreal Engine and think it's the best thing ever.

Arkham Shadow is a VR title, so it's appeal will be limited. Not to mention, WB Games Montreal put out a mediocre title in Gotham Knights as well. That was their chance to separate themselves apart from Rocksteady and Arkham series, and they failed miserably.

 

[Mani-Man]

I think some of that toxic positivity comes from people at Warner Bros. Discovery who have no idea what they are looking at when it comes to gaming. They have no experience with gaming and they don't know what gamers like or want. They look at these high-resolution graphics or clips on Unreal Engine and think it's the best thing ever.

Arkham Shadow is a VR title, so it's appeal will be limited. Not to mention, WB Games Montreal put out a mediocre title in Gotham Knights as well. That was their chance to separate themselves apart from Rocksteady and Arkham series, and they failed miserably.

Yup, looking at Suicide Squad and thinking its a billion dollar success...was insane from WBD.

Arkham Shadow is a VR title yes, but the way it quickly changed peoples perception is wild.
It will not reach the audience it could have with a "normal" game, but from almost completely negative reactions to pretty much exclusively good reactions with every new footage...that is impressive.

True, Gotham Knights didnt hit the high notes.
Im not sure if it ever stood a chance seeing as Criticism is either that its not enough like Arkham or too different, so people dont really seem to know on that aspect what is worse.

It leaves us in a very unsure place, with Rocksteady and dont forget that WBM allegedly is working on a DC game already.
So we are in a weird place where we have seen both from these Studios...greatness and failure.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Mani-Man]

I still firmly think there should never be a Arkham game post Knight, but would have been interested in seeing what they had planned with this.
Especially in terms of something like Killer Croc...how they would have explained going from almost a complete crocodile, to this.

All these cancelled WB games are such a interesting topic, because WB cancelled a lot of good ideas.