Batman didn't kill the Fat guy in Returns...

[GoogleMe94]

Have you ever seen a confetti bomb go off?

Yes, they may hurt you if you're holding them. Not much, though. The Thin Clown coming with it wasn't planning on committing suicide: he was just going to get it to explode with Batman near, to confuse him.

See:

http://www.alibaba.com/productsearch/confetti_bomb.html

And also for The Red Devil guy, he was covered in red paint, which could be a fire-proof mixture (the kind they use to cover their tongues). Since he was the Circus's fire eater, it wouldn't be unusual.

See:

http://www.geocities.com/masterfyretr/Tips/Tips02.htm

Yes, they both could have been killed. But not necessarily so.

 

[El Payaso]

Case closed.

 

[Bat Attack]

Yep. Pretty much says it all.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Nice find.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

No, he killed him.

Why would the Circus gang (where he got the bomb from) carry a bomb that wouldn't do much damage at all? They were out for destruction.

Confetti bomb on set. Real bomb in the movie's context.

 

[larryfilmmaker]

hey I don't believe that Batman should kill, but he clearly DID kill in that scene. It was meant to be a real bomb. There is no point in trying to rearrange that. It's very clear to any audience member that the man BLEW UP off screen and died. Only the hardcore bat-fans would try to dig up reasons why he didn't. Sort of like the Cyclops fans pointing out all of the still shots before X3 released and claiming that one of the soldiers was Cyclops in the final battle. Wish all you want but don't try to warp the truth. There are plenty of other versions of every character out there.

 

[The Shredder]

Although I'm pretty open to idea of The Devil Henchman surviving, but I think it was fairly conveyed to the audience that the Fat Strongman was indeed killed by the bomb blast in Returns. If for none other than the fact that the guy doesnt reappear later on in the movie. Which definately would lead one to think the worst.

 

[union_jak]

I've been saying for a very long time that it was a confetti bomb and not a real bomb!!

You see the confetti shoot up when it goes off, not flames or bits of body...

 

[Lex Luthor]

Seeing body parts flying around would have been a bit much.
Even for Batman Returns.

 

[El Payaso]

Well, we all saw Ra's dying but everybody claims he survived cuz we 'didn't see him dying.' We can argue the fat guy escaped or whatever. Now I'm confused, but it's a good point.

Although I'm pretty open to idea of The Devil Henchman surviving,

Ah, totally. I mean, he was surrounded by snow. All he had to do is rolling over.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

The fat guy was made of confetti.

 

[Bat Attack]

And swamp gas. Confetti and lots and lots of Swamp Gas.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I dunno....the screams of agony I remember hearing kinda makes me think he killed them.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

On the DVD commentary, Burton said he purposely gave a "comic quality" to the murders Batman committed, in order to make them less sinister and more fun.

Those aren't his exact words; but no, I'm not kidding.

 

[El Payaso]

I dunno....the screams of agony I remember hearing kinda makes me think he killed them.

screams of agony? I honestly remember the BOOM and nothing else.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

Batman, do all those vodka martinis silence the screams of all the men you've killed?

 

[Lex Luthor]

On the DVD commentary, Burton said he purposely gave a "comic quality" to the murders Batman committed, in order to make them less sinister and more fun.

Those aren't his exact words; but no, I'm not kidding.

That makes sense.

Especially when one thinks of how he ultimately got rid of the black guy who was owning him thru much of their fight in the Cathedral in Batman. And the comic quality Burton speaks of is certainly even more apparent in the follow up, Batman Returns.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I remember hearing that Batman Returns just went more Action-film style. Dunno if I've ever seen a man burned alive in a comic book before. But, Batman Returns action seemed more fantastical.....like fun. Which is what Burton was going for, obviously.

I do remember the demon costumed dude screaming for some reason. Not sure if he was, though. Gotta check.

 

[El Payaso]

Dunno if I've ever seen a man burned alive in a comic book before.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, I'm not a Marvel guy.......so......

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Have you ever seen a confetti bomb go off?

Yes, they may hurt you if you're holding them. Not much, though. The Thin Clown coming with it wasn't planning on committing suicide: he was just going to get it to explode with Batman near, to confuse him.

See:

http://www.alibaba.com/productsearch/confetti_bomb.html

And also for The Red Devil guy, he was covered in red paint, which could be a fire-proof mixture (the kind they use to cover their tongues). Since he was the Circus's fire eater, it wouldn't be unusual.

See:

http://www.geocities.com/masterfyretr/Tips/Tips02.htm

Yes, they both could have been killed. But not necessarily so.

I'm not sure if it was meant to be a confetti bomb, but I do agree it could go either way.

As for the fire-eater...the guy was around turrents of snow and he probably heard the words "stop, drop, and roll" at some point in his life. If he was dumb enough not to use those and just run around on fire, he deserved to die. Survival of the fittest. Those who can't figure out something as simple as "stop, drop, and roll" doesn't survive long enough to reproduce.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I dunno....the screams of agony I remember hearing kinda makes me think he killed them.

There aren't any screams of agony. Believe me--I've seen this movie so many times I'm pretty much a Bendridge Scholar for it.

...Dunno if I've ever seen a man burned alive in a comic book before.

Someone else mentioned the Human Torch, but I do remember an arc in The Punisher where he burnt a leader of a human slavery ring alive.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

I dunno....the screams of agony I remember hearing kinda makes me think he killed them.

No screams, but make no mistake, he killed the guy. I have no problem admitting it. GoogleMe (who is probably just Batwing6655) is trying to make allowances so he can have (what he thinks is) an airtight argument about how Burton's stuff is on an even playing field as Nolan's, so he can praise Burton and bash Nolan.

 

[batman7289]

Marvel Sucks

 

[cryptic name]

I remember hearing that Batman Returns just went more Action-film style. Dunno if I've ever seen a man burned alive in a comic book before. But, Batman Returns action seemed more fantastical.....like fun. Which is what Burton was going for, obviously.

I do remember the demon costumed dude screaming for some reason. Not sure if he was, though. Gotta check.

i used to think the demon guy was screaming too, but i'm pretty sure it's the whine of the turbine kicking on in the batmobile