i think batman forever is up there with batman '89 and batman returns....if the all the batman movies were in a race, batman begins was be first, batman and batman returns would be close, batman forever would like 2 seconds behind returns, and everyone would leave the meet by the time batman and robin got to the finish line.
i think schumacher could have been a good batman-director, but he effed it up with batman & robin. i don't know what he was thinking. even batman forever was pushing it.