Batman Franchise Not Very Profitable...

[ChrisB]

 

[~.:/|T-MaN|\:.~]

Yikes....

I didn't know this was the case

 

[ArcXIX]

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[Boom]

Guess chicks didn't dig the car after all.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

This doesn't belong in Spoilers.

And I'm tired of these dumb publications that leave out worldwide numbers. Toy Sales for Begins were very strong, and so was the DVD sales. Batman '89 had huge VHS sales if I remember correctly. That overall point of the article is almost correct, but Batman isn't just any film franchise. It carries all kinds of other profit with it, including increased comic book sales.

Absolutely. More money has been made thru merchandising the Batman movies than the movies themselves. Batman is a monolithic money-making machine, movies are just the most prominent part.

 

[Mister J]

The article presents a skewed viewpoint, to say the least. As mentioned, its analysis is devoid of any consideration toward international box office or merchandising/licensing. If Batman films weren't profitable, I sorely doubt we'd by 4 weeks away from the 6th full-feature release in 19 years.

 

[Spoonman]

This doesn't belong in Spoilers.

And I'm tired of these dumb publications that leave out worldwide numbers. Toy Sales for Begins were very strong, and so was the DVD sales. Batman '89 had huge VHS sales if I remember correctly. That overall point of the article is almost correct, but Batman isn't just any film franchise. It carries all kinds of other profit with it, including increased comic book sales.

This one is including WW boxoffice numbers. Anyway I never thought that Forever was going to end up in 2nd place, although now that I remeber the hype for the movie and the average Joe reaction to it, it makes sense, but the first Batman movie still is the monster among the rest of them!

EDIT
Sorry, I thought it was taking WW box office in consideration but it doesn't..the inflation adjustment decieved me..

 

[ArcXIX]

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[ArcXIX]

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[Man Who Laughed]

And we can't for get that a good amount of people didn't realize that BB was a total franchise reboot. Hell, I've been raving about TDK for 2+ years, and my manager at work asked me, "are they just, like, remaking all of the movies then, or what?" And her husband is a big comics fan, so... I think we'll see these movies turn a new leaf this summer. Batman will come back. He'll blow everyone away. BTW, wheres the report on the Superman movies?

 

[ChrisB]

Hell, I've been raving about TDK for 2+ years, and my manager at work asked me, "are they just, like, remaking all of the movies then, or what?"

I've got that same question among my friends too!

 

[twilitezoner]

The article presents a skewed viewpoint, to say the least. As mentioned, its analysis is devoid of any consideration toward international box office or merchandising/licensing. If Batman films weren't profitable, I sorely doubt we'd by 4 weeks away from the 6th full-feature release in 19 years.

Check the IP of the originating author. My bet is he resides inside Marvel headquarters.

 

[theMan-Bat]

Guess chicks didn't dig the car after all.

 

[theMan-Bat]

"he and Warner Bros. couldn't agree on a pay back-age for the third installment."

Actually, Michael Keaton turned down the biggest pay check because he didn't like the script for the third installment, Batman Forever. I admire him for not selling out for the money and for his loyalty to his dark version of Batman. "He (Michael Keaton) wanted to go darker all the time and that was fine with us (Daniel Waters and Tim Burton)." - Daniel Waters.

 

[Spoonman]

"he and Warner Bros. couldn't agree on a pay back-age for the third installment."

Actually, Michael Keaton turned down the biggest pay check because he didn't like the script for the third installment, Batman Forever. I admire him for not selling out for the money and for his loyalty to his dark version of Batman. "He (Michael Keaton) wanted to go darker all the time and that was fine with us (Daniel Waters and Tim Burton)." - Daniel Waters.

Exactly, the whole "Keaton wanted more money" thing was and old reason given loosely to the public (who knows exactly by who) circa 1994-1995 if I remember correctly..or at least that was what the media said back then.

 

[Ammo]

IIRC, movies these days don't make nearly the returns that movies of the past did due to escalating budget costs.

Just think about how much cheaper the older Batman movies looked, they looked like they were shot on a broadway stage.

The big returns are on DVD sales and merchandising. Keep in mind the home video market was in its relative infancy at the time of Batman 89's release...studios couldn't afford to make big budget movies knowing that DVD sales would at least make a profit if they broke even at the box office.

I don't know for sure but I'm assuming BB has had huge success in the DVD market.

And yes, this doesn't factor in international Box Office figures either.

 

[Man Who Laughed]

When I was a kid, I hated Keaton for leaving b/c he wanted more money. Here I am 12 years later thanking The Powers That Be that A) He left for a different reason, B) Had he had his way, Bats may have gotten closer to the comic character, and C) That he didn't do BF. But whoever wrote that should do a little homework.

 

[MrQuinn]

I remember when Forever was being talked about with Kilmer as Bats, my dad told me it was because Keaton wanted too much money. It made me a little disgruntled, but of course I have since learned different.

Haha, silly father.

 

[Catman]

This doesn't belong in Spoilers.

And I'm tired of these dumb publications that leave out worldwide numbers. Toy Sales for Begins were very strong, and so was the DVD sales. Batman '89 had huge VHS sales if I remember correctly. That overall point of the article is almost correct, but Batman isn't just any film franchise. It carries all kinds of other profit with it, including increased comic book sales.

Absolutely. More money has been made thru merchandising the Batman movies than the movies themselves. Batman is a monolithic money-making machine, movies are just the most prominent part.

Didn't B89 make like 500 million in toys alone?!!!!

 

[superion]

They should have put in the international numbers to get a more accurate percentage. International numbers comprise 50% or more of the income for many movies. Some like the Harry Potter films and Lord of the Ring Films actually double their US take overseas. Though the Batman films have always made less overseas than in the US and most superhero films in general make less overseas.

 

[Bat Attack]

Why is it so much about the money all the time? Cant we just enjoy the films?

 

[Keymaker]

Why is it so much about the money all the time? Cant we just enjoy the films?

Yes, we can. But if there's no money, there are no films

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Why is it so much about the money all the time? Cant we just enjoy the films?

No.

To elaborate...

A. Some of us are intrested in how much money the films make.
B. The money the films make indicates how many people DID enjoy the films.
C. Without the money, there are no films.

 

[Catman]

C. Without the money, there are no films.

Indeed.

 

[Furious Styles]

It still amazes me how successful B'89 truly was. I mean this summer has been all about TDK, but being one too young to remember the summer of '89, I can only imagine how big Batmania truly was at the time!