Better Call Saul! - Breaking Bad Spinoff A Go At AMC

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Yeah, this episode was terrific. That last scene was excellent. Jimmy is just still eating that pie, not really seeming to care about faking evidence as Kim stops. It's really a nice subtle representation on both natures of the characters without saying it.

I'm seeing this show isn't so much about him transforming into Saul. More just Jimmy McGill just letting go of what what held him back. Though you could say him repping Dan and faking evidence is the first instance of Saul Goodman appearing, it's more still Jimmy doing a bad thing.

Man this show is ****ing great. It's possible this show can equal Breaking Bad when this is said and done. Even surpass it in areas.
 
I missed the premiere last week, but I'm caught up now.

All I have to say right now is that I'm enjoying the hell out of this show. These first two episodes of season 2 have not disappointed.
 
The first half of the ep was really slow but the second half more than made up for it. I was glad to see my prediction come true when Price became Jimmy's client. I hope this isn't the last we've seen of him. He's hilarious.

I really loathe Chuck now, which is remarkable since I felt kinda sympathetic towards him in season 1. His attending every meaning seems like it's less about helping the case and more about intimidating Jimmy. Chuck's presence also inspires more defiance out of Jimmy, which causes him to behave more recklessly, which drives a wedge between himself and Kim...I can see the tragedy unfolding.

Squat cobbler was obviously hilarious, but my favorite line of the night came from Nacho: "I wouldn't be caught dead driving that thing. It looks like a schoolbus for six-year-old pimps".
 
One of my local radio was talking about the show and of course...they were saying its boring and slow. They want to speed up to the part where he becomes Saul and get into his life right before Breaking Bad starts. TV radio personalities are clearly not the first place for quality.
 
Mike is such a cool cat. My favorite line was him asking Jimmy if he was still morally flexible.

McKean is really knocking out of the park, even I felt uneasy when he showed up for the meeting.

I'm glad we get to see a softer side of Howard. It's too bad he's in the middle of a one-sided sibling rivalry.
 
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I'm thankful for this show expanding my vocabulary. First the Chicago sunroof, now squat cobbler.
 
It's quite deliberately a slow burn. You either like it or you don't. It's like someone complaining Deadpool was expletive-ridden.

It works brilliantly for me. So far, anyway.
 
Some of the camera work in this show is spectacular. The way they use lighting to create almost comic book-panels, cutting out a good chunk of the screen and drawing the audiences eye. It's such a clever way to create intimacy.

I like Kim a lot now. At first she seemed kind of one-note, but as they've slowly developed her character she's becoming a great companion for Jimmy.

One of my local radio was talking about the show and of course...they were saying its boring and slow. They want to speed up to the part where he becomes Saul and get into his life right before Breaking Bad starts. TV radio personalities are clearly not the first place for quality.

The only thing radio personalities are the first place for is obnoxiousness.
 
Isn't it weird seeing Mike doing stuff while we know how he dies, eventually? Don't get me wrong, more Mike is always good, just weird, even sad in a way.
 
The pace is great. It really helps to differentiate this show from Breaking Bad. While I guess you could argue that it's "low-stakes" compared to its forefather, these guys are masters at making it just as engaging.

There's this really interesting simultaneous feeling I have of being excited for Saul to show up (squat cobbler ftw), but then at the same time not wanting to witness the ultimate tragedy that that'll bring (Kim </3).
 
The show is slow but the directing is so fantastic, every scene feels so well thought out, the cinematography is even better.
 
Isn't it weird seeing Mike doing stuff while we know how he dies, eventually? Don't get me wrong, more Mike is always good, just weird, even sad in a way.

That's part of the inherent tragedy. For all the development we see with Jimmy and Kim and Mike, we know it will all eventually go down the toilet. It's a different conceit that Breaking Bad had because there was less assurance of where that story would end up.

The central arc was initially presented as how Jimmy becomes Saul. But I think a more accurate description is that it's the arc of Jimmy becoming Gene, the empty shell of man left after his rise and fall.
 
Chuck is just so despicable. His reaction while hearing the good stuff happening to Jimmy makes me want to slap him. Guy can't get himself to be genuinely happy even for a bit for his brother.

Pryce is so unintentionally hilarious. :hehe:

Isn't it weird seeing Mike doing stuff while we know how he dies, eventually? Don't get me wrong, more Mike is always good, just weird, even sad in a way.

LOL every time I see see Mike, my next thought is "DAMN YOU WALTER!!!!" :argh:
 
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The amazing thing this show has done is made these characters feel like their own instead of just being from Breaking Bad. I was watching Saul's first episode and it felt almost odd seeing Saul somewhere else. And knowing it's Jimmy somewhere in there. Which is a good thing. These characters now feel like people made up in this show in the first place so when they appear in BB it does feel like these separate characters are entering another characters world.
 
I don't know if you guys listen to the insider podcast, but the actor who plays Pryce used to do these pranks on local morning news shows.

 
Chuck is just so despicable. His reaction while hearing the good stuff happening to Jimmy makes me want to slap him. Guy can't get himself to be genuinely happy even for a bit for his brother.

Chuck is an ass, but at the same time I wonder how much of that is because Jimmy is just so darn likable. I mean, Chuck does kind of have good reason to be irritated by his younger brother's sudden success. Chuck worked hard to get where he is, made it through a prestigious law school, decades as a lawyer, built one of the top law firms around -where as Jimmy took the easy route all the way and almost lucked his way into the Sand Piper thing and then the job he has now.

None of that is to say Jimmy isn't clever, he certainly is, but did he work as hard as Chuck to get where he is? Certainly not. So Chuck's kind of a jerk, but he's a jerk with a fair point. And Jimmy is the hero of the story so it's easy to side with anyone who goes against him regardless of what he does.

On a similar note, that last point is the main reason so many people disliked Skyler in Breaking Bad. Walt was doing increasingly terrible things and Skyler, at least for the first chunk of the show, had reacted in a pretty reasonable way to her husband's peculiar and ultimately criminal activities. Walt was the hero of the story though, so we as an audience, more often than not, were inclined to side with him.
 
Still not getting what's with Mike's granddaughter. She looks to be the same age on this as she was when she was shown on BrBa. She didn't age for 6 years? Was she cryogenically frozen? What's the deal?
 
I almost expected Gus Fring to pop up at the end...
 
Still not getting what's with Mike's granddaughter. She looks to be the same age on this as she was when she was shown on BrBa. She didn't age for 6 years? Was she cryogenically frozen? What's the deal?
I was thinking that too.
 
Still not getting what's with Mike's granddaughter. She looks to be the same age on this as she was when she was shown on BrBa. She didn't age for 6 years? Was she cryogenically frozen? What's the deal?

I was thinking that too.

I just noticed that as well. According to the Breaking Bad wiki, she's supposed to be 10 at the time of Mike's death, which would make her 4 during the events of Better Call Saul. They really should have gone with a younger child actress. This girl looks like she's about 8.
 
I think it's just easier to work with someone who is more capable of taking direction better on a tv schedule compared to a 4 year old. That's right in the middle where it's tricky to direct a child in a short time span.
 
So Stacey made up that bit about being shot at? She must be trying to get Mike to put her up in a new house.

I can't imagine what's so bad about that commercial that it could get Jimmy fired. Maybe Davis and Main learn the truth about his Texas sojourn.
 
So Stacey made up that bit about being shot at? She must be trying to get Mike to put her up in a new house.

That was my thought too but on the other hand, she looks too genuinely scared to come across as someone just fooling Mike? Maybe she's just become too paranoid and is losing it (maybe a result of what happened to her husband)?

I can't imagine what's so bad about that commercial that it could get Jimmy fired. Maybe Davis and Main learn the truth about his Texas sojourn.

I think it's more of because he went behind their backs regardless of the end result. He basically used the firm's name without the approval/sign off of the partners which could earn you an automatic fire. He's lucky that the commercial turned out to be good/produced results so they at least seem to be voting on what to do with him instead of just instantly canning him.
 
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