Bill Maher Whacks Islam

[cookiva]

Like you said earlier. Clark is a bamf. I was upset that he didnt get as much support in the last election.

 

[sinewave]

Like you said earlier. Clark is a bamf. I was upset that he didnt get as much support in the last election.

me too. i supported him.

 

[Jerry!]

. Wesley Clark was amazing this week, I honestly never knew just how smart and ethical he was until then.

The guy said that the women who lived in those oppressive regions in which they have few rights and are controlled basically chose to and like it. That just reeks of being smart.

 

[rdh007]

I think he was taking a shot at fundamentalism, which is the problem with many religions.

 

[Jerry!]

No he wasn't, he was being serious and said pretty much exactly what I posted, everyone jumped on him after it. It was a pretty stupid thing to say.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

The guy said that the women who lived in those oppressive regions in which they have few rights and are controlled basically chose to and like it. That just reeks of being smart.

No they were talking about Burkas, and he's right. It was the other guests who brought up abuse and women being property, which is not the case in every Islamic or Middle Eastern country. Many many women who wear Burkas choose to, even after moving out of those oppressive societies. Even more to the point he was showing that people were intolerant of others based on choice. It's not your, my or this countries job to save everyone from themselves, just because YOU think burkas are a sign of oppression doesn't mean they are. Someone could just as easily make the argument that the beauty standard and risque style of dress encouraged over here is just as demeaning.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

LOL "Bill Maher Whacks Islam"

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[Jerry!]

No they were talking about Burkas, and he's right. It was the other guests who brought up abuse and women being property, which is not the case in every Islamic or Middle Eastern country. Many many women who wear Burkas choose to, even after moving out of those oppressive societies. Even more to the point he was showing that people were intolerant of others based on choice. It's not your, my or this countries job to save everyone from themselves, just because YOU think burkas are a sign of oppression doesn't mean they are. Someone could just as easily make the argument that the beauty standard and risque style of dress encouraged over here is just as demeaning.

Come on, those women were brought up like that since birth for generations, its not like they had a choice to begin with. Its all they know. Thats part of the oppressive society.

 

[Zero_Vault]

This is some hilarious ****.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Come on, those women were brought up like that since birth for generations, its not like they had a choice to begin with.

So what? Since when is it America's job to condition you to believe certain things (don't be sarcastic either)? So do Hasidic Jews, they have a code of dress. As do Quakers, Amish and many Native American cultures. We don't tell them to change. And many of them live in societies were they could, if they choose, leave.

The only reason this is an issue is because we see the Middle east as our enemies, so naturally every single practice and cultural belief they hold must be, therefore, wrong.

Its all they know. Thats part of the oppressive society.

No it's part of a religion, not an oppressive society. Sometimes those religious practices just end up in oppressive societies. Same could be said for any religion. Many of these women who wear Burkas live in this country, and still decide to live by their religious practices.

 

[Superman]

Bill Maher Whacks Islam

You have got to be kidding.

 

[Captain_BluTac]

i was really hoping that this was gonna be him going all vigilante ey and beating up terrorists

 

[Jerry!]

So what? Since when is it America's job to condition you to believe certain things (don't be sarcastic either)? So do Hasidic Jews, they have a code of dress. As do Quakers, Amish and many Native American cultures. We don't tell them to change. And many of them live in societies were they could, if they choose, leave.

The only reason this is an issue is because we see the Middle east as our enemies, so naturally every single practice and cultural belief they hold must be, therefore, wrong.

No it's part of a religion, not an oppressive society. Sometimes those religious practices just end up in oppressive societies. Same could be said for any religion. Many of these women who wear Burkas live in this country, and still decide to live by their religious practices.

I'm not quite sure if this is what your saying, but basically you seem to be arguing against equal rights. You honestly don't believe that if women in the oppressive regions in which that they live wouldn't choose to live as equals? They would want to be treated as they are now? Its more than just the clothing, thats almost a side note to the issue. You're right that religion is big part of the oppressive society. But it doesn't make it right. And if you want to argue that women being equal is a choice more than it is a right, well then it says a lot about you.

I'm not arguing that its America's job to fix it. But since you brought it up, America is doing that to its own people. Its just they do it with a far more subtle approach with religion nowadays. The greatest bull**** story ever told. Generations and generations of conditioning people what to believe, whats accepted, whats not.