BLM Protests Across The World

[MadVillainy]

And everyone remember, and correct me if I'm wrong, we have the money for people to live without these jobs for a while or lease get paid for a while

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And everyone remember, and correct me if I'm wrong, we have the money for people to live without these jobs for a while or lease get paid for a while

We are a nation that has a government that will go trillions of dollars in debt for a war they made up, but hundreds of billion for people to stay home during a pandemic? Never.

 

[Zorro]

I wonder what's the count for all the cops arrested, fired or suspended during these protests so far. Must be getting pretty high

 

[kvz5]

I wonder what's the count for all the cops arrested, fired or suspended during these protests so far. Must be getting pretty high

Doubt it. Unless their acts are caught on video and their names are discovered and made public, I don’t expect repercussions.

 

[kvz5]

!!!

 

[Zorro]

Doubt it. Unless their acts are caught on video and their names are discovered and made public, I don’t expect repercussions.

There's been articles of cops from different cities getting busted on cam and ending with one of those 3. Total them up and it should be an interesting number

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[kvz5]

Trump’s mind and level of reasoning is really a wonder. This is how he comes up with things:

Everyone:
A = C
B = C
K + G > D + W

Trump:
Therefore, X > K

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Sithborg]

 

[Zorro]

Great view

 

[BatLobster]

How is everyone's stress levels with all of this? This is...a lot. Really feels all the anger of the past 3 1/2 years, mixed with with the stresses of months of lockdown have boiled over into this incredibly tumultuous moment.

I've seen so much horrifically disturbing and violent imagery of unprovoked violence on cops against protesters. I've also seen some incredibly touching images of police marching with protesters, an officer hugging a black child for minutes, cops kneeling with protesters, protesters giving cops water. I've seen footage of smart protesters singling out white rioters and stopping them in their tracks. It's all happening at once, and right now it feels like we are unable to fully process the enormity of this moment, all the good and bad of it.

There are a few trends for this with me that I'm concerned about. I find it worrisome that there seem to be so many attempting to defend the rioting and looting as if criticizing it is somehow criticizing the peaceful BLM movement. I find this reprehensible. Those people are NOT helping the movement. They are not friends of the movement. In many cases they are the exact opposite. They have destroyed minority-owned businesses and low-income housing. A 77 year old retired (black) police chief was shot dead. There is no way to justify that. Stealing a PS4s from GameStop has nothing to do with justice for George Floyd. To ignore this and sweep it under the rug is wrong in my view, and it accomplishes nothing but giftwrap all of this to the right to weaponize.

And unfortunately, I feel the same about the shocking silence from the health community about people gathering shoulder to shoulder by the thousands. Masks or no masks. People have lost their livelihoods. People have buried loved ones and been unable to grieve with their families. And suddenly nobody is talking about the virus as masses gather by the thousands, in defiance of every guideline we've made such an effort to adhere to over the past several months. And the health community has been far too quiet about the risks. This kind of a double standard is sheer fodder for Trump and the right to gleefully exploit. All of this only increases the chances of a second wave, and the hand wave this seemingly has been given by the health community could potentially undermine their credibility in the coming months when we will need to heed their advice more than ever to prevent a deadlier second wave ala 1918.

The protests by and large have been beautiful demonstrations and will no doubt be in the pages of history books some day. We are already seeing some police departments announcing plans for reform. That's incredible and wonderful, and necessary. But I find myself hoping that this will soon simmer down and people will remain safe in their homes as much as they possible can. The longer this continues, the more people are going to die and get hurt-- most of which being the actual protesters, unfortunately. We still are dealing with a pandemic that has claimed 105,000+ American lives that is in no way, shape or form gone. And we have an election in November where we are attempting to remove a pseudo-fascist from power. And historically, authoritarians like him thrive on widespread social unrest like this. Our own saving grace here (as always) is his ineptitude and inability to truly wield power, but nevertheless I think it's more crucial than ever that we keep our eyes on the prize.

 

[kvz5]

OMG the conspiracy theorists are at it with the old guy that was pushed. Because of course! Of course.

 

[MadVillainy]

She doesn't support George Floyd being seen like a martyr because some make it seem like he was a great person and there being merchandise with his face & name but he wasn't that good based on research she found on him. I agree with her that he shouldn't be seen as a martyr based on him a person but disagree that he shouldn't be supported.

For me it's about his death, the black lives movement and peaceful protests against police brutality than him being a saint before death or not.

What does that have to do with him being killed when he was unarmed and unconvicted by cops?

 

[C. Lee]

 

[Zorro]

What does that have to do with him being killed when he was unarmed and unconvicted by cops?

Don't know. Don't remember her talking about it

 

[Sithborg]

How is everyone's stress levels with all of this? This is...a lot. Really feels all the anger of the past 3 1/2 years, mixed with with the stresses of months of lockdown have boiled over into this incredibly tumultuous moment.

I've seen so much horrifically disturbing and violent imagery of unprovoked violence on cops against protesters. I've also seen some incredibly touching images of police marching with protesters, an officer hugging a black child for minutes, cops kneeling with protesters, protesters giving cops water. I've seen footage of smart protesters singling out white rioters and stopping them in their tracks. It's all happening at once, and right now it feels like we are unable to fully process the enormity of this moment, all the good and bad of it.

There are a few trends for this with me that I'm concerned about. I find it worrisome that there seem to be so many attempting to defend the rioting and looting as if criticizing it is somehow criticizing the peaceful BLM movement. I find this reprehensible. Those people are NOT helping the movement. They are not friends of the movement. In many cases they are the exact opposite. They have destroyed minority-owned businesses and low-income housing. A 77 year old retired (black) police chief was shot dead. There is no way to justify that. Stealing a PS4s from GameStop has nothing to do with justice for George Floyd. To ignore this and sweep it under the rug is wrong in my view, and it accomplishes nothing but giftwrap all of this to the right to weaponize.

And unfortunately, I feel the same about the shocking silence from the health community about people gathering shoulder to shoulder by the thousands. Masks or no masks. People have lost their livelihoods. People have buried loved ones and been unable to grieve with their families. And suddenly nobody is talking about the virus as masses gather by the thousands, in defiance of every guideline we've made such an effort to adhere to over the past several months. And the health community has been far too quiet about the risks. This kind of a double standard is sheer fodder for Trump and the right to gleefully exploit. All of this only increases the chances of a second wave, and the hand wave this seemingly has been given by the health community could potentially undermine their credibility in the coming months when we will need to heed their advice more than ever to prevent a deadlier second wave ala 1918.

The protests by and large have been beautiful demonstrations and will no doubt be in the pages of history books some day. We are already seeing some police departments announcing plans for reform. That's incredible and wonderful, and necessary. But I find myself hoping that this will soon simmer down and people will remain safe in their homes as much as they possible can. The longer this continues, the more people are going to die and get hurt-- most of which being the actual protesters, unfortunately. We still are dealing with a pandemic that has claimed 105,000+ American lives that is in no way, shape or form gone. And we have an election in November where we are attempting to remove a pseudo-fascist from power. And historically, authoritarians like him thrive on widespread social unrest like this. Our own saving grace here (as always) is his ineptitude and inability to truly wield power, but nevertheless I think it's more crucial than ever that we keep our eyes on the prize.

I haven't been sleeping well. My brother is a cop, and while not in a directly big department, it is in one that helps support two other big departments. And I have absolutely seen abuses from those sister departments.

I think you can drop the psuedo part. Trump absolutely revealed himself to be the fascist that his "buddies" are.

As for the virus, the South already screwed the nation over, so whatever.

 

[MadVillainy]

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And unfortunately, I feel the same about the shocking silence from the health community about people gathering shoulder to shoulder by the thousands. Masks or no masks. People have lost their livelihoods. People have buried loved ones and been unable to grieve with their families. And suddenly nobody is talking about the virus as masses gather by the thousands, in defiance of every guideline we've made such an effort to adhere to over the past several months. And the health community has been far too quiet about the risks. This kind of a double standard is sheer fodder for Trump and the right to gleefully exploit. All of this only increases the chances of a second wave, and the hand wave this seemingly has been given by the health community could potentially undermine their credibility in the coming months when we will need to heed their advice more than ever to prevent a deadlier second wave ala 1918.

The protests by and large have been beautiful demonstrations and will no doubt be in the pages of history books some day. We are already seeing some police departments announcing plans for reform. That's incredible and wonderful, and necessary. But I find myself hoping that this will soon all simmer down and people will remain safe in their homes as much as they possible can. The longer this continues, the more people are going to die and get hurt-- most of which being the actual protesters, unfortunately. We still are dealing with a pandemic that has claimed 105,000+ American lives. And we have an election in November. Eyes on the prize.

1) Cops hugging kids, marching with protesters doesn't mean much. It's just the whole "they're not all bad" argument that's always touted about. a) even if the cop themselves aren't doing the BS. They're still complicit in a system by not speaking out and doing so much more to reform police departments. I, of course, don't know every police department in the world; but I've never heard of any internal police-community relations team that has done much. I haven't seen much public outcry for officers who condemn racist or just corrupt actions. There's no BLM movement within police forces that I've heard of. What they're doing is as empty and meaningless as "thoughts and prayers" after a mass shooting

2) If they would've solved the problem before the pandemic, we wouldn't have to deal with it in a pandemic. Let's just look at the high profile police killings or at least shady deaths in police custody in the last 5 years. Just the some of high profile ones
-Freddie Gray
-Sam Dubose
-Philando Castile
-Alton Sterling
-Walter Scott
-Sandra Bland
-Botham Jean
-Jason Washington (by freaking armed Campus security)
-Atatiana Jefferson
-Stephon Clark

A majority of them unarmed, and a majority of them are people of color. And again that's just within the last 5 years. America has had hundreds of opportunities to do the right thing and they didn't So crying now about "But but but...the pandemic" just kinda rings hollow. They let it get to this point where people still have to protest for basic human rights during a pandemic. A pandemic where a lot of predominately black, hispanic, etc. areas are getting ignored when it comes to COVID resources
Any way the pandemic worsens is on the American government for lack of action on this police brutality issues AND even our pandemic response. If they didn't protest, nothing would have happened and even then nothing still might happen. Even the social distancing protest ideas I've seen, don't seem that viable or impactful. So do people want persons of color to sit at home and take it?

3) We've had plenty of elections where nothing was changed for people. I'm voting for Biden, but have any of the primary candidates in how many years actually done anything or had any good concrete plans for police reform or demilitarization of police? Biden or Trump the police problem isn't going to be fixed. The racial injustices aren't going to be fixed. So the "prize" is still being treated like dirt due to the color of our skin, sexual orientation, etc? For sure go out and vote, but let's not pretend that voting fixes everything

 

[Legendver2]

You guys talking about Candace Owens? Cuz that lady "proudly" self-identifies as an "Uncle Tom". So I'm gonna take everything she says with at least a suspicious eye.

 

[MadVillainy]

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

 

[Sithborg]

Should have figured this, because no way is Tom Cotten smart enough to approach the Trump villified Times.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Iceman]

When I die I won’t be looking down to see how my family are doing; I’ll be looking forward to the next jobs numbers!

 

[Detective Conan]

Very informative video that I highly recommend everyone here give it a watch.