Boughtvengers vs. Thought-Men, May 16th, 2012 - Forsooth, there be SPOILERS within!

[TheCorpulent1]

I think that's actually where I did drop it.

 

[WalkingDeadMike]

I've enjoyed it the whole time, but I do agree things have certainly picked up since Hades was introduced.

 

[THANOSRULES]

I figured I should read that someday. But does Bendis do a good job of following up on it? Is Avengers' Protector a worthy successor to Morrison's actual content? Somehow I doubt it.

hell no...like totally different characters..although the original dark avengers era stuff did kinda explain and show the change.

EDIT: Ha didnt see watchman's response before i posted this...yeah , another guy Bendis screwed up.

 

[Dread]

A heavy wallet buster week for me. Open the spoiler-gates!

DREAD'S BOUGHT/THOUGHT FOR 5/16/12:

SAGA #3: As Image Comics celebrates its 20th anniversary, Brian K. Vaughan and Fiona Staples have chosen this time to release their critically acclaimed creator owned project, SAGA. It debuted in March to much fanfare, and proved to be the top selling "indie" comic that month, landing in the Top 40 and even outselling that month's issue of WOLVERINE. Considering that the first issue has seen at least three reprints and the second issue will likely see a few as well, Vaughan's first major return to monthly comics since he ended EX MACHINA in the twilight days of the WILDSTORM imprint has thus proved to be just as critically acclaimed as his prior works. This series tells the tale of two literally star crossed lovers Marko and Alanna as they attempt to flee from their interplanetary enemies for the crime of not only treason against their own respective species, but in siring a "mixed breed" child, Hazel. This is Vaughan's first foray into a space "saga", although his strengths remain his incredible imagination as well as his handling of character dialogue. Staples' artwork continues to be a major boon as well as a signature on the series as well.

As this issue opens, things seem bleak. Alanna has insisted that she and Marko follow a strange map they found in the debut issue to get to a "Rocketship Forest" to escape the planet they have become stranded in. Marko has been mortally wounding in a battle against the first intergalactic bounty hunter sent after them, the spider-woman Stalk. Alanna and Hazel thus find themselves surrounded by mythical forest monsters called Horrors. It turns out that the "horrors" are in fact the spirits of the youths who have died during the war between planets. Alanna ends up making a deal with one of the ghosts named Izabel to allow her to leave the planet by "attaching" to Hazel as a ghostly "babysitter" in exchange for safe passage through the forest to get to an area with snow to allow for one of Marko's healing spells. In the meantime, Prince Robot IV interrogates a prisoner about our leads and the Stalk attempts to form an alliance with another bounty hunter, "The Will", which proves difficult since they are ex-lovers.

A review of an issue of SAGA is difficult to formulate because this is a series which is best enjoyed by experiencing it. Vaughan's dialogue is both crisp and realistic, with appropriate curse words, and each issue seems to create more of this "universe" around the character without clogging fans in the sort of dense techno-babble which puts off some from STAR WARS and STAR TREK. Fiona Staples continues to be able to go to town on her exceptional artwork, being a master of backgrounds, facial expressions and all sorts of bizarre alien characters. Ghosts can often be corny, but these "horrors" seem fresh and new. Like with many "saga" style stories, a cast of supporting heroes often revolve around our stars, and Izabel becomes one of them. Hazel, presumably as an adult, continues to narrate the story which naturally means she eventually lives long enough to grow up, but that still leaves things in the air for the leads.

SAGA is one of those series which to some can border on being "over rated". At least in terms of these three issues, readers have great reason to believe the hype. This series offers two creators at the top of their game creating an entire universe one issue at the same time as it builds intriguing within it. Fans of great comic books shouldn't pass it up.

AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #4: Issues of SAGA are called "chapters", because it is a flowing narrative; issues of AVX are "rounds", as it is a mindless brawl. That alone should be all one needs to know about this Marvel mega-event. With a story planned by Marvel's top five writers, this issue sees the bottle spin towards Jonathan Hickman, who scripts this issue. John Romita Jr. continues on his art chores with Scott Hanna on inks and Laura Martin on colors. In previous issues, the Avengers and the X-Men have gone to war over the mutant girl Hope, who was raised by Cable in the future and is destined to become the next host of the powerful Phoenix Force. The Avengers see it (and thus Hope) as a hostile force to be detained; the X-Men (led by Cyclops) see it as the last savior to be defended. Wolverine, who has opened his own school and sided with the Avengers, seeks to go about his usual solution to the problem - killing someone. That didn't sit well with Capt. America, who dumped Logan off into Antarctica.

Fortunately by happenstance, that's where Hope had chosen to hide out, and she arranges a meeting with Wolverine to offer a truce; at least allow her to merge with Phoenix and see if she can control it (as Rachel Summers did for years) before killing her. Wolverine agrees, only to go back on his word while she slept and call the Avengers. All of this is the bookend for a lot of brawls which AVENGERS VS. X-MEN: VERSUS will embellish, and ends with a showdown on the "blue area of the moon" which has a stable atmosphere. It is hilarious that the heroes feel taking the battle to the moon is safer, yet damage to the moon could vastly harm life on earth. The same Cap who considered Logan an unstable lone wolf last issue is now perfectly willing to accept his intelligence. In past stories, Beast has often invented some anti-Phoenix containment gizmo which never works, and this time Iron Man is making such a gadget that probably won't work. While Hickman does write some decent dialogue, this issue seems like more running in place with battles filling the pages. As with many Marvel events, this is an editorial promotional brawl more than a story, and it acts very much as such.

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN: ENDS OF THE EARTH #1: This is the lone tie-in one shot which is supposed to attach to "ENDS OF THE EARTH" running through AMAZING SPIDER-MAN; the only other crossover issue will be AVENGING SPIDER-MAN #8. This is a 28 page tale written by Rob Williams (last seen in CIRCLE OF FOUR over in VENOM) and Brian Clevinger with Thony Silas on art, Victor Olazaba on inks and Wil Quintana on colors. It focuses on all of the international heroes that Spider-Man rallied to his cause to help take out Dr. Octopus' global warming satellite network, and the roster is truly eclectic: Union Jack, the heroic Kangaroo, Sabra, Titanium Man, and Japan's Big Hero 6. Out of all these groups, Union Jack and Big Hero 6 have sold in mini series in recent years, while the others are C and D-Listers. They were heroes chosen by Dan Slott, and naturally these two writers have the task of embellishment; Williams covers the first segment which covers UJ, Kangaroo, TM, and Sabra while Clevinger covers the Big Hero 6. The first segment mostly focuses on Union Jack and his determination to prevail despite being a low powered hero in big hero situation (see what I did there). Kangaroo and Sabra fail, but Union Jack winds up accomplishing his mission and stopping one of things. In fact, both of the others appear to be killed, which is odd since I thought Sabra was bullet-proof yet she appears to be felled by a sniper round from Crossbones. Sabra did have the task of being Israel's only superhero and it would be cruel for her to be murdered by a neo-Nazi of all villains. On the other hand, Lady Deathstrike guts Kangaroo and I doubt he will be missed. For me the real meat of the issue is the Big Hero 6 segment, if only because it follows up well from the underwhelming mini series that Chris Claremont wrote a few years back. It is a high octane sequence with a lot of action and the team's trademark extreme characters. I didn't mind this one-shot although I wouldn't consider it essential for anyone who isn't a major ASM or obscure character fan.

AVENGERS ACADEMY #30: While writer Christos Gage has long made a habit of producing lemonade from the lemons he is handed in terms of crossover tie-in stories, this time around the title seems to be too crammed full of characters for him to get much traction. This is a slow build set-up issue which merely serves to get the escaped Sebastian Shaw - whose switch has been flipped back to "evil" after a round of amnesia - past the adults running the Academy and near the kids which he seeks to slaughter out of spite. Characters do a lot of talking and Hazmat, Finesse, and X-23 get the most to do this issue, even if a lot of is chatter about which side they're on and some exposition about the event. The subject of one of the Academy kids controlling a Sentinel comes up and it goes about as poorly as one would expect, while X-23 ultimately sides against Wolverine and feels it is wrong to contain anyone for what they "might" do. Alas, little of that will matter as the kids will be set to battle a villain next issue who seems to effortlessly absorb every attack and seems all but invincible - akin to Hybrid a few issues ago, Korvac even earlier, and even Exodus over in Gage's X-MEN LEGACY. He seems to enjoy pile-on battles against lone mega-villains it seems. I didn't read the X-Men stories where Shaw had amnesia and his memories were restored; I assume it is a leftover subplot from GENERATION HOPE that Gage has the task of sewing up. One thing I don't understand if that Shaw can absorb the kinetic energy of blows and even the magical energy of Hercules' sword, why can't he absorb the force of the pressure from Tigra's choke hold? It did seem as if it was thrown in to make Tigra seem more clever since Gage is fond of her, which I don't entirely mind because I've grown to like her more through his handling of her. Tom Grummet does the art and as usual he has a slew of characters to draw. I did like Ricochet getting the first dialogue he's had in years, though. The next issue with the actual battle should be stronger than this one; while this is still good, I do feel it has peaked some time ago and the upcoming arc after the crossover dealing with the Briggs subplot will be far better.

DAREDEVIL #13: Mark Waid continues his noteworthy run on DAREDEVIL, this time joined by the artist from the Point One issue, Khoi Pham. While I don't dislike Pham's art as much as some people do, and it is well inked and colored here, it is more "generic" alongside some of the exceptional artists this series is known for attracting, so that alone causes this issue to go down in quality slightly. The story seems to put a exclamation point around the Omega-Drive/Megacrime plot for good, in a way which seems so tidy that one wonders why Daredevil didn't think of it several issues ago. Perhaps because that'd have made the recent crossover moot? At any rate, having incited the various super criminal/terrorist organizations such as AIM, HYDRA, Black Spectre and the Secret Empire over his Omega Drive of data on them, he gets his allies in the New Avengers to concoct a ruse in the middle of an expected battle in Time's Square to get the target lifted from him once and for all. Meanwhile, Foggy seems to have found something in Murdock's desk which fazes him, and he isn't taking Murdock's optimistic new demeanor well at all. The cliffhanger to the issue was probably better than half the issue itself, teasing of an improbable battle against Dr. Doom. Between this and WINTER SOLDIER, he seems to be cropping up a lot lately. At any rate, a solid issue although with more generic art than this run is known for.

FANTASTIC FOUR #605.1: A strange issue, this. It tells the origin not of the Fantastic Four we know, but of one from an alternate reality Specifically, the reality where the Reed who ultimately decided to found the cross-dimensional "COUNCIL OF REEDS" from Jonathan Hickman's run on FANTASTIC FOUR and FF came up with. This Reed hailed from a world where the Nazi apparently won WWII and remained in power, and is so ruthless he literally transplanted some of Doom's brain matter into his own to grow smarter. Here Johnny and Sue are two ruthless Nazi soldiers while Grimm is a Jew from a concentration camp, who Reed manipulates into helping him stage a coup to remove Hitler from power. Thus, the "Reed" who founded the Council was a cosmic empowered Nazi. Mike Choi does the artwork and it is good, although this does feel very much like a spare annual kind of tale.

I may as well take this moment to mention the hypocritical hilarity that the Avengers fret so much about "dangerously unstable mutants who can alter reality" like Scarlet Witch and now Hope Summers, yet don't care one wit about Franklin Richards. How powerful is he? Galactus himself fears him, and in a few thousand years the devourer of worlds will be FRANKLIN'S herald. Franklin's only created his own universe...twice. He can bring Celestials - the gods of the cosmos itself - to oblivion if he gets angry enough. Is it because they trust Reed Richards to take care of him? The same Reed, who as this this tale demonstrates, is evil in virtually every other reality that exists? Hell, evil parallel world versions of Reed have popped up before Hickman's run, such as the Brute in the 70's and the Dark Raider in the 90's. Reed's pursuit of science is something he considers to be above the law at times (such as when he took his crew to space in the first place) and even above morality when he saved Galactus' life to ensure more worlds would be destroyed (sure, Eternity told a space court it was for the good of the cosmos, but there's no way Reed knew that). Reed was at least 1/3rd responsible for Clor, yet neither Thor or Goliath's nephew ever seem to call him on that. Reed's literally called a room full of scientists cowards because they couldn't count on endless resurrections like superheroes could and thus had a fear of death. Thus, it does get hard for me to take the paranoia of the Avengers and other forces seriously so long as the world seems to collectively forget that the Fantastic Four have a mutant child who is arguably the most powerful there is in their midst.

 

[Dread]

Part 2 of 2:

THUNDERBOLTS #174: The final issue before the title (although not the creative team) changes to DARK AVENGERS. Marvel has done these sort of stealth relaunches before, and while it worked for a while on INCREDIBLE HERCULES, it is a strategy with diminishing returns since. Since the head of Marvel's editorial strategies department appears to be a parrot which says, "AWK, do the same thing again, AWK, DO THE SAME THING AGAIN!" naturally Marvel can only do the same thing again. At any rate, Jeff Parker manages to finagle a way out of the time travel mess his cast of escaped Thunderbolts have made for themselves by not only meeting the original T-Bolts from mid 90's continuity, but having the "future" Techno kill the "past" Techno. Ultimately, he decides to pose as his younger self and agree to essentially live the rest of his existence in a time loop so that all of the time doesn't unravel around them. The team gathers up enough corpses to feed to Swamp Thing and they give their time machine another go; at this rate they might pop up during CIVIL WAR or SECRET INVASION. Declan Shalvey does the art and as usual does a solid job. I honestly don't know who the new DARK AVENGERS are besides Skaar and Barney Barton, so the next issue will be a news flash for me. The turn to DARK AVENGERS may be a last roll of the dice to save this series, which had slipped into cancellation range at an awkward time - when Marvel is patting themselves on the back for getting it to last so long. I am curious how Parker will manage to merge the story he was doing with his own cast with the cast he will be getting by editorial decree, but it could spice things up a bit. The time travel gimmick was one which I thought ran it's course some time ago yet has drug on about a year, and it may have taken something like this to spike it.

VENOM #18: Thanks to several months of double-shipping, this relaunch series by Rick Remender is now seeing an 18th issue, and new writer Cullen Bunn is being phased in. He has been co-writing the series for the last couple of issues, which is how Marvel editors have sought to seamlessly transition out an old writer and bring in a new one. New regular artist Lan Medina handles the art chores for this issue, with Nelson Decastro on inks and Chris Sotomayor on colors. At any rate, this series and its star hero, Eugene "Flash" Thompson have come a long way. Originally a military operative designed for a finite series of missions, Flash is now a Secret Avenger who had the alien symbiote "modified" so that it no longer dominates his mind. Unfortunately, he has become bonded to it beforehand and his own anger can be just as debilitating. Despite being part of a team of Avengers, Flash still has his own enemies to worry about. He has been blackmailed by the new Crime-Master and his twisted adoptive "son", Jack O'Lantern into performing favors for them to maintain his loved one's safety. Flash has since brought the fight to the criminals, but has botched an assassination attempt. Now Venom is on a race against time to save his family members from Crime-Master's gang of super villains called "The Savage Six", which include D-List Thor villain Megatak and a new Toxin. As the cover suggests, long imperiled reporter Betty Brant is first on the villains' hit list despite Flash's best attempts to break up with her to protect her. As usual, Flash's plans go poorly and both he and Betty are in the thick of battle. Medina's artwork is terrific and the pace of the story is fast paced. The conclusion of the story offers a new dynamic for Flash and Betty, which should prove to be more interesting than fights with villains themselves.

WINTER SOLDIER #5: Cyborg Soviet super-soldiers, Dr. Doom, and gorillas with automatic weapons; those are the things this issue offers and for those alone it is worth a look. Writer Ed Brubaker and artist Butch Guice (with Bettie Breitweiser on colors) unite once more to continue the ongoing black ops adventures of James "Bucky" Barnes, who is no longer Capt. America and is back to performing shadow missions with Black Widow. This time he is doing such things for SHIELD and seeking to bury all of his Cold War demons once and for all. The opening arc of this series has seen old Fantastic Four villain Red Ghost re-imagined and made more chilling as he has united with Lucia Von Bardas in a plan to utilize several Soviet era "super soldiers" who had been sleeping since the 50's to engage in a plot to destabilize both the United States and Latveria. In doing this, the two have earned the ire of not only our heroes, but Dr. Doom, the monarch of Latervia, as well. This issue has a climatic showdown between heroes, villains, and apes with guns and it is every bit as dramatic as one can imagine. Guice's artwork here may remind some of Gene Colan's in some ways, with a breakneck pace throughout the issue. As usual with Brubaker stories, the end of the battle doesn't mean the end of the war, and there is unfinished business to be had for the next arc. Although WINTER SOLDIER is a spin off from CAPTAIN AMERICA - which Brubaker also writes - it seems to be where his heart is and where his strengths are in comparison, at least for the moment.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I didn't read the X-Men stories where Shaw had amnesia and his memories were restored; I assume it is a leftover subplot from GENERATION HOPE that Gage has the task of sewing up.

The Shaw story has been coming and going over the past year or two. Emma captured Shaw and then later (with Fantomex) wiped his mind and left him as a blank slate to start over in Uncanny X-Men. Then the Generation Hope kids found him, thinking he was a new mutant, and he was actually a decent guy. They brought him back to Utopia where Cyclops flipped out. Hope, being rebellious, sides with Shaw and Cyclops is cautious of him but is willing to give him this chance. Not liking secrets, Hope delivered to Shaw the information of his past so that he can make his own choices in life. Shaw read this but confirmed that that man is gone. Then this arc starts where he's moody and seemingly reverting to bad guy again.

Chances are that he was going to revert back to type eventually but I just felt Gage took the easy route with him here. I'm hoping it's not all as it seems and he's just helping break the kids out of the Academy but we'll see. I'd like to see this "noble" Shaw drawn out a bit.

Then again, the "blank slate" is being done to a bigger scale with Angel right now and we have the reformed villain angle also being done to a bigger scale with Emma, Magneto, Danger, and Frenzy. Shaw's just another added to the mix.

I did like Ricochet getting the first dialogue he's had in years, though.

I'm hoping he leaves and joins up with one of the X-Men groups I always did like that guy but he's being wasted in the overpopulated Avengers Academy book. Penance/Hollow can come too.

 

[Dread]

The Shaw story has been coming and going over the past year or two. Emma captured Shaw and then later (with Fantomex) wiped his mind and left him as a blank slate to start over in Uncanny X-Men. Then the Generation Hope kids found him, thinking he was a new mutant, and he was actually a decent guy. They brought him back to Utopia where Cyclops flipped out. Hope, being rebellious, sides with Shaw and Cyclops is cautious of him but is willing to give him this chance. Not liking secrets, Hope delivered to Shaw the information of his past so that he can make his own choices in life. Shaw read this but confirmed that that man is gone. Then this arc starts where he's moody and seemingly reverting to bad guy again.

Chances are that he was going to revert back to type eventually but I just felt Gage took the easy route with him here. I'm hoping it's not all as it seems and he's just helping break the kids out of the Academy but we'll see. I'd like to see this "noble" Shaw drawn out a bit.

Then again, the "blank slate" is being done to a bigger scale with Angel right now and we have the reformed villain angle also being done to a bigger scale with Emma, Magneto, Danger, and Frenzy. Shaw's just another added to the mix.

The dilemma of M-Day as well as some other stories is it has limited the amount of villains in the rogues gallery (pun intended) the X-Men can battle. Magneto's reformed, Frost's reformed, Apocalypse's dead for now, Mr. Sinister just got used, Juggernaut reformed and is AWOL, etc. Sure, they can do rounds of fanatic human bigot stories - which they did for years and years. Sure, you could new villains, but they rarely stick. Thus, at least a few villains had to revert to type, so Shaw was available.

I'd heard some bits about the Shaw storyline here and there. Between this and NEW MUTANTS I do sense some increased zeal to tie up some of the loose ends of the X-Men, which is a first for the franchise. I do agree that Shaw's switch back to evil is pretty crude, but Gage seems to like his battles against impossibly powered villains who require massive pile-on's to defeat. Korvac, Hybrid, Exodus, etc.

I'm hoping he leaves and joins up with one of the X-Men groups I always did like that guy but he's being wasted in the overpopulated Avengers Academy book. Penance/Hollow can come too.

That bit with Hollow was awkwardly dumped from THE LONERS. That series ended with her deciding to stick around Phil Urich despite how damaged he was. Years later he popped up in ASM and has since become the latest Hobgoblin. Apparently she changed her mind?

Ricochet joining an X-team? Perhaps he's looking for more misery in his life?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Ricochet siding with the mutants strikes me as odd. He's never really been a "mutant pride" sort of guy. Although I guess he might just be standing against what he sees as oppression due to the X-kids' house arrest.

 

[Dread]

Plus, I don't like the idea of EVERY mutant character HAVING to be involved with the X-Men. Even if, to be fair, his mother was killed by Orphan-Maker and Nanny did want to kidnap him. Those were long time NEW MUTANTS enemies.

There's naturally a lot to dislike about the concept of the X-Kids being in "protective custody". It's not a prison, but any attempt to leave is resisted? Then what is it?

Cyclops wrote a letter to the media in UXM about him feeling it was an "attempted kidnapping" of Hope, since Cap wasn't arresting her yet was insisting she be detained or else, and legally he has a point. Of course, legally, the government deputized Crossbones for Thunderbolts service and let a guy with several murder and terrorism convictions run the Dept. of National Security. Marvel laws are whack.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's for their own safety. Basically, their own guardians (as evidenced by Box and Kavita Rao's accompanying the kids) agree with the faculty of Avengers Academy that the kids would recklessly jump into battle and possibly get themselves hurt if they were left to their own devices. Technically, the Avengers Academy kids are on house arrest too; they're just not as combative about it because they're just students at a school, not adherents to a cause like the X-kids.

It's still dangerously close to fascism, but the idea that they're comparable to Japanese immigrants in internment camps during WWII is utterly ridiculous and offensive. I'd have punched the kid who compared the two in the head several times if I were Hazmat.

 

[CConn]

I do like that they actually pointed out how dumb that was in-issue.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, when Hazmat was like, "Seriously?" I nearly cheered. So many other writers would've treated that like it was an actually logical thing to say and milked some cheap drama from it. Go Gage.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Thunderbolts #174

A nice ending to Parker's Thunderbolts before it becomes Dark Avengers. I loved the whole "End Of The World," especially when it came to Fixer's dilemna (or is it dilemma) at the end. While I was never exactly wowwed with Parker's storylines, I did appreciate certain elements. What was lacking, though, was my love for some of the characters. (Before he came on as the new writer, my favorite character was Ghost. Since, though, I can hardly think of an instance where I've cared about him.)

3 of 5

Secret Service #2

A decent book from Millar; but, that's kind of how I think of most of Millar's titles coming from Icon. It entertains; but, generally reminds me of other books I have read. This one keeps me thinking of Ennis' The Boys. What sets it apart, though, is that I don't have those moments of extreme boredom when Ennis' characters go on an overlong explanation of things that happened in the past or explanations about their motivations. This title seems to flow much smoother; but, you can also explain that it's just dummied down for a lesser audience.

3 of 5

Dancer #1

I'm always enjoying Edmondson's Image titles; and, while this one felt like many other books I read at the beginning, the ending has a nice twist that will make me come back for the next issue. (This is another special agent/spy type of licence-to-kill character who seems to have someone coming after them.)

Like I said, it does have a twist at the end; and, I don't want to give that away for people who might like to check it out. It definitely popped this book up a notch for me.

4 out of 5

Hardcore #1

Kirkman starts another title; and, I'm getting a bit leary about starting it up. I just have a feeling that it might go on "permanent hiatus" after a while. (That's what has happened to The Infinite.) The book is about special department in the government that can take over someone's body, and then send that person to kill a person the government is looking to take out. Again, I was kind of turned off at first, thinking, "Not another special agent/secret department book;" but, like with Dancer, the book has a nice twist in the second half that sets up the rest of the book. (I'm hoping this story will just be a miniseries. It just seems that Kirkman is stretching himself a bit thin.)

3.5 out of 5

 

[Phaedrus45]

The Hype is giving me problems tonight. I had more I wanted to review; but, I think one of the pop-ups keep screwing with me tonight.

 

[WalkingDeadMike]

Hardcore #1

Kirkman starts another title; and, I'm getting a bit leary about starting it up.

He didn't start another series. This is the last of the "pilot season" one-shots that were all supposed to come out in 2010. There was supposed to be a fan vote with the winner getting to become an ongoing, but I'm pretty sure it's since been scrapped.

 

[runawayboulder]

The Hype is giving me problems tonight. I had more I wanted to review; but, I think one of the pop-ups keep screwing with me tonight.

It's been giving me a problem for over a week now. I keep getting connection reset on my browser. It's past the point of annoying.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it's all effed up.

 

[Quasimod0]

I've been liking all of the Avengers vs xmen books. And just realized how much i do not like namor.