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This is one of those stupid news stories that makes me think "lady justice has been r***d."
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Was Munir Hussain supposed to let the intruders escape?
Munir Hussain savagely beat a man who had tied up his family at knifepoint, writes Philip Johnston. Was the judge right to send him to prison?
It is every father's worst nightmare. He returns home with his wife and children to be confronted by knife-wielding burglars who tie them up and threaten to kill them.
What would any of us do in those circumstances? Our first instinct would be to protect our families by whatever means at our disposal. Our second would likely involve unadulterated fury at the violation of our most precious sanctuary. Above all, even in the red mist of our anger, we would imagine ourselves to be the victim and to expect the law to recognise that, too.
But it doesn't entirely, as Munir Hussain found out. The nightmare unfolded for the 53-year-old businessman when he came home from worshipping with his family at their local mosque in High Wycombe to discover three masked men in his house. They threatened Hussain and his family, tied their hands behind their backs and made them crawl around the house before forcing them to lie down in the living room.
A teenage son managed to escape and alert his uncle who lived close by. Help arrived and the intruders fled, pursued by Hussain and his brother, Tokeer. At this point, according to the law, the family was no longer in danger and the hue and cry should have stopped.
But the brothers caught up with one of the burglars and beat him savagely with a cricket bat, which broke in three places. Suddenly, the intruder, a serial criminal with more than 50 convictions, became the victim and at Reading Crown Court on Monday, the Hussain brothers were jailed, Munir for 30 months and Tokeer (who had not been in the house during the burglary) for 39.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/philipjohnston/6822702/Was-Munir-Hussain-supposed-to-let-the-intruders-escape.html
Now, if I might stand on my soap box for a minute...
Seriously, that is big-time effed up. This is hardly the only story of a man going into a blood to protect his family, but the stupid laws don't seem to understand that it's part of a male's nature to do that kind of thing. Since our earliest days, the man of the family filled the role of hunter, gatherer, and protector, and the last point is pretty much hardwired into our psychology.
When a man thinks his family is in immediate risk, some will do anything to protect them-- any inhibitions against violence are suddenly shut off, because the man's family is at stake. It's like being in a drunken rage, except that the father had no choice in whether or not they were going to get drunk enough to beat someone into chum. It's like if you beat someone's dog, and then sue them when the dog bites your hand. It's cause and effect, and the courts should have room for leniency towards it.
That idiot robber should have known better than to break into someone's home and be an evil SOB. He got exactly what he deserved-- he was going to kill the man's family, and he got beaten within an inch of his life for it. If anything he got off easy. As one Youtuber opined, the brain damage is probably an improvement over whatever tangled mess of neurons that this lowlife was using for a brain before.
Personally, I think Munir Hussain should get nominated for Father of the Year out of solidarity. Some people might argue that he and his brother used excessive force, but unless you have been in that situation, where it takes every ounce of self control in your entire body to keep you from tearing the intruder's head clean off of his shoulders and somehow you managed to not resort to violence, you should not be so quick to fault him. I heard one story of a man that broke every bone in his hands from smashing in the skull of an intruder who was intent on raping he man's baby daughter-- how can you say a man like that was conscious of his actions when his OWN FREAKING HANDS were breaking!? Likewise, do you really think that Hussain's logic and reason would have been able to override his biological commands to make sure that a man who brutally attacked his family won't come back for a second attempt?
At this rate, maybe if that idiot PS3 thief / rapist who got his chest slashed open by that kid with a samurai sword has a case. "Sorry kid, we know you probably saved your older sister from being raped, but you had no right to attack that man with a sword when you could have just used karate."
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Was Munir Hussain supposed to let the intruders escape?
Munir Hussain savagely beat a man who had tied up his family at knifepoint, writes Philip Johnston. Was the judge right to send him to prison?
It is every father's worst nightmare. He returns home with his wife and children to be confronted by knife-wielding burglars who tie them up and threaten to kill them.
What would any of us do in those circumstances? Our first instinct would be to protect our families by whatever means at our disposal. Our second would likely involve unadulterated fury at the violation of our most precious sanctuary. Above all, even in the red mist of our anger, we would imagine ourselves to be the victim and to expect the law to recognise that, too.
But it doesn't entirely, as Munir Hussain found out. The nightmare unfolded for the 53-year-old businessman when he came home from worshipping with his family at their local mosque in High Wycombe to discover three masked men in his house. They threatened Hussain and his family, tied their hands behind their backs and made them crawl around the house before forcing them to lie down in the living room.
A teenage son managed to escape and alert his uncle who lived close by. Help arrived and the intruders fled, pursued by Hussain and his brother, Tokeer. At this point, according to the law, the family was no longer in danger and the hue and cry should have stopped.
But the brothers caught up with one of the burglars and beat him savagely with a cricket bat, which broke in three places. Suddenly, the intruder, a serial criminal with more than 50 convictions, became the victim and at Reading Crown Court on Monday, the Hussain brothers were jailed, Munir for 30 months and Tokeer (who had not been in the house during the burglary) for 39.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/philipjohnston/6822702/Was-Munir-Hussain-supposed-to-let-the-intruders-escape.html
Now, if I might stand on my soap box for a minute...
Seriously, that is big-time effed up. This is hardly the only story of a man going into a blood to protect his family, but the stupid laws don't seem to understand that it's part of a male's nature to do that kind of thing. Since our earliest days, the man of the family filled the role of hunter, gatherer, and protector, and the last point is pretty much hardwired into our psychology.
When a man thinks his family is in immediate risk, some will do anything to protect them-- any inhibitions against violence are suddenly shut off, because the man's family is at stake. It's like being in a drunken rage, except that the father had no choice in whether or not they were going to get drunk enough to beat someone into chum. It's like if you beat someone's dog, and then sue them when the dog bites your hand. It's cause and effect, and the courts should have room for leniency towards it.
That idiot robber should have known better than to break into someone's home and be an evil SOB. He got exactly what he deserved-- he was going to kill the man's family, and he got beaten within an inch of his life for it. If anything he got off easy. As one Youtuber opined, the brain damage is probably an improvement over whatever tangled mess of neurons that this lowlife was using for a brain before.
Personally, I think Munir Hussain should get nominated for Father of the Year out of solidarity. Some people might argue that he and his brother used excessive force, but unless you have been in that situation, where it takes every ounce of self control in your entire body to keep you from tearing the intruder's head clean off of his shoulders and somehow you managed to not resort to violence, you should not be so quick to fault him. I heard one story of a man that broke every bone in his hands from smashing in the skull of an intruder who was intent on raping he man's baby daughter-- how can you say a man like that was conscious of his actions when his OWN FREAKING HANDS were breaking!? Likewise, do you really think that Hussain's logic and reason would have been able to override his biological commands to make sure that a man who brutally attacked his family won't come back for a second attempt?
At this rate, maybe if that idiot PS3 thief / rapist who got his chest slashed open by that kid with a samurai sword has a case. "Sorry kid, we know you probably saved your older sister from being raped, but you had no right to attack that man with a sword when you could have just used karate."
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