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Danalys said:
it works because base pairs interact as they do. it is using the chemical properties of DNA. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18424722.900.html that artical explains the process enough that if you also knew about DNA it would be a satifactory explination. knowledge of computing would help aswell.

The article still leaves the impression that they know it works and even how to use it in limited cases, but not deeply. No doubt, the scientists knowledge in this area will keep increasing.
 
War Lord said:
It's also a case that the benefits of specialization is just too much for society to give up. If we were to go the generalized route, where everybody lives off the land and does everything themselves, such societies tend to be very poor, brutish, and short-lived. It's why we don't live in that society today and why more generalized (primitive) societies are trying to become like us.

Whereas, societies that become more specialized allow individuals to focus their contributions in very small areas with the overall totaled effect becomes fairly large. It's also the kind of society that allow companies to become large, because specialized societies also tend to be stable economies.

let machines specialize. humans generilize or specialize as they want. people naturally go one way or the other. a zero point economy for the basics for survival would be as stable as stable can be. in poorer countries it is the lack of tech to get around the effects of weather that causes the problems. they can't bring the water to the people from where it actually rains etc. with the right machine the cost of laying pipes should be nothing. the beurocracy of where the pipes go is more tricky. it's politics tho and we have systems for working these things out. all we take from the world is free it is only our time we pay each other for. if time is so precious we should find increasingly better ways to free more of it.
 
Which science mag(if you buy them) is the best in your opinions?
 
War Lord said:
The article still leaves the impression that they know it works and even how to use it in limited cases, but not deeply. No doubt, the scientists knowledge in this area will keep increasing.
i think you are reading things in it that aren't there to fill a preconcieved notion. we know exactly how to solve a node problem with DNA and why it works. finding more improved ways to solve the problem does not mean we did not undertand how and why it worked before it just that in the massive sea of possible ways to use DNA we have thought of a better way for our purpose. we could only think of that way of improving it through knowledge of how and why DNA does what it does. which is just a lovely series of chemical bonds as it applies in this context. the hardware is undertood we are just changing the software. ie the way we use the hardware.
 
Danalys said:
let machines specialize. humans generilize or specialize as they want. people naturally go one way or the other. a zero point economy for the basics for survival would be as stable as stable can be. in poorer countries it is the lack of tech to get around the effects of weather that causes the problems. they can't bring the water to the people from where it actually rains etc. with the right machine the cost of laying pipes should be nothing. the beurocracy of where the pipes go is more tricky. it's politics tho and we have systems for working these things out. all we take from the world is free it is only our time we pay each other for. if time is so precious we should find increasingly better ways to free more of it.

I'd prefer to play Diablo II with my time, it's an unbelievably great game, imo.

The problem with letting machines do the work is that there is no workable economic system that would allow people to provide for themselves without providing a good or service to provide it for them. It would be great if it could be done, but if it is solved, it certainly won't be in our lifetime.
 
Darkdd said:
Which science mag(if you buy them) is the best in your opinions?

i like new scientist. it covers most areas and finds a balence between detail explaining concepts. it's also got humourous parts.
 
Darkdd said:
Which science mag(if you buy them) is the best in your opinions?

Discover, Scientific American, New Scientist and Popular Science are the best general ones out there.

If you have a more specific interest, I suggest that you google your interest and see what magazines come up.
 
War Lord said:
I'd prefer to play Diablo II with my time, it's an unbelievably great game, imo.

The problem with letting machines do the work is that there is no workable economic system that would allow people to provide for themselves without providing a good or service to provide it for them. It would be great if it could be done, but if it is solved, it certainly won't be in our lifetime.

charity from machine owners, if you own the machines that could feed the world would you let it starve.
 
Danalys said:
charity from machine owners, if you own the machines that could feed the world would you let it starve.

It goes against human nature.

If resources are free, humans tend to waste those resources and humans assume that they are entitled to something, once they've acquired permission to use them once.
 
War Lord said:
Discover, Scientific American, New Scientist and Popular Science are the best general ones out there.

If you have a more specific interest, I suggest that you google your interest and see what magazines come up.
I like all those yo posted,except for new scientist,as that does not appear in m country lol.Sciam has been upsetting me lately,as every issue now is about quantum strings(not a big physics fan).Sciam MIND is great though as i love psychology and nuerology.
 
Darkdd said:
I like all those yo posted,except for new scientist,as that does not appear in m country lol.Sciam has been upsetting me lately,as every issue now is about quantum strings(not a big physics fan).Sciam MIND is great though as i love psychology and nuerology.

You should educate yourself on Quantum theory, it's very wierd stuff.

One of the good things about getting to know science is that there's a lot of crossover between chemistry and biology, chemistry and physics.
 
I know,i like most of quantum physics,but the articles in sciam really didn't make me want to spend $50 on it though.I like the "out there" kind of physics.
 
War Lord said:
It goes against human nature.

If resources are free, humans tend to waste those resources and humans assume that they are entitled to something, once they've acquired permission to use them once.

i think people are entitled to somethings so thinking they are entitled wouldn't make a difference. aslong and things are shared fairly there is no problem. if people want more it would be their problem to get over that want. if they rise to take more, they will be punished apropriately. their action leads to counter action.
 
War Lord said:
You should educate yourself on Quantum theory, it's very wierd stuff.

One of the good things about getting to know science is that there's a lot of crossover between chemistry and biology, chemistry and physics.

it's looking at the same stuff at different levels of magnification.
 
they piece together strands of dna based on the data then let the DNA do it's thing. which is to do logical operations based on the data in a standard way. then they find the shortest solution by changing the temperature. it takes a **** load of chemistry to do tho. that's why it's only good for problems with massive parallelization that normal computers aren't very good at at all.
 
did you also know that you can make a computer based on the movement of mice. you make a maze based on logical operation and put cheese in the right places. then the mice follow the cheese and end up in positions that give you an answer to the problem.
 

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