Comic book movie redo

[JClive2007]

If you had the chance to redo any superhero movie what would do that would be different?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

If you had the chance to redo any superhero movie what would do that would be different?

With Batman Forever: let Schumacher have final cut.

Rocketeer: add atleast two more action set-pieces.

The Shadow: one more appearence by the Shadow, more action, better climax.

X2: Move Wolverine's fight with Deathstrike to the climax.

XIII: Needs to be longer, Cyclops should be a main character.

Fantastic Four/Silver Surfer: Needs to be longer, the story barely has chance to breathe. Dr Doom needs to do more.

Spider-Man: Change the damn Goblin costume. Change the picture format to proper widescreen like the other movies. Bill Pope as cinematographer.

Hulk: Needs more action, Hulk needs to be angry, not a giant lost toddler.

Blade Trinity: Get a proper Dracula.

 

[TheGeoff]

For Superman Returns - makes Kevin Smiths "Superman Lives" instead; only give him more creative control on the script and have a young Micheal Bay direct... well not young but he should do this instead of Armageddon.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

If you had the chance to redo any superhero movie, what would you do that would be different?

The Crow: I'd have made sure the weapons master was retained for the duration of the filming (and properly checked every part of each firearm), no matter the cost to the production. I'd also have probably taken the charcter of Myca out, and removed what little nudity remained in the film.

Batman & Robin: I'd have hired Val Kilmer to return as Batman, and recast Poison Ivy. I'd have also greatly reduced the overall campiness of the film in general, and done more with the "sick Alfred" angle.

Superman II: I'd have kept Richard Donner as director, and let him and Tom Makiewicz have the majority of creative control over the project.

Superman III: I'd have done a completely different film entirely, only retaining the Lana / Jason subplot.

Superman IV: I'd have made sure the film was granted a proper VFX budget, and redo the whole "Nuclear Man" origin.

Superman Returns: I'd have ditched the whole "land grab" rehash with Lex, and amped up the action content.

 

[cerealkiller182]

The Crow: I'd have made sure the weapons master was retained for the duration of the filming (and properly checked every part of each firearm), no matter the cost to the production.

Agreed

The Phantom: Take down the hamminess and treat it more like an Indiana Jones peer than an Indiana Jones knock off.

X-men franchise: Make Wolverine a better fighter, make Iceman funnier, make Cyclops a more competent leader, make Juggie and Pr. X brothers, make Mystique less freakish, make Sabes more accurate and reoccurring.

X-Men 3: Wait for Bryan Singer

Fantastic Four: Find a more competent, genre-savvy director. Recast Invisible Woman and Dr. Doom. Play with the idea of Doom as a fifth crew member, but more along the lines of getting disfigured and blaming Reed rather than having dormant abilities. Cut down the "look what I can do" scenes and make them out to be more "celebrity" like, for example "putting out fires" type missions, pacifying low scale crimes and accidents.

Spiderman: No pressure for Raimi to use a character he didnt understand or want in the first place (Venom). Better written romance. At least make Pete care when his mask falls off.

Hulk: Balance the 2. The psychological issues of Lee's Hulk and the action/thriller tone of Lettier's

Daredevil: Less CGI, more emphasis on Murdock in the court room and as a person with less emphasis on the inflated origin intro. Darker, edgier, The Crow like atmosphere.

Hellboy: Let Doug Jones voice Abe from the beginning

Superman Returns: No Donner worship. Rehash Batman Begins style with an appropriate tone and a more physical threat. Lex in a similar role as the Timmverse animated series. Greedy corrupt business tycoon with "clean hands" Capone-esque criminal speculation (obvious but unable to prove). Lex as a supporting character rather the principal threat EVER. Recast Lane. Drop love triangle and love child.

 

[marcvader]

X-Men series - First, make Cyclops older and the "Field Leader" of the team. You know, kind of like the 30 some odd years of XMen comics history has shown us. It wasn't too hard to follow those examples, was it? Last, don't kill him off, for Christ's sake!

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Daredevil: Less CGI, more emphasis on Murdock in the court room and as a person with less emphasis on the inflated origin intro. Darker, edgier, The Crow like atmosphere.

Have you not seen the Director's Cut on DVD? That's pretty much what it contained. The film was much more serious, and a completely different aspect to the story was reinstated.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Have you not seen the Director's Cut on DVD? That's pretty much what it contained. The film was much more serious, and a completely different aspect to the story was reinstated.

Yeah I know, what Im saying is I would have included it in the theatrical and cut down the origin instead

 

[lou2099]

I don't know if you mean either a do-over or just fix what was broken, but here goes:

Tank Girl: I'd take out that stupid-ass "Let's Do It" dance number, take out her name "Rebecca" and take out the annoying little girl, then amp up the violence.

The Shadow: Take out the scene with the time bomb bouncing down the stairs. Have a comprehensible climax.

Howard the Duck: First and foremost, remain truer to the source material. I'd have waited twenty-five years for special FX to catch up, then use stop motion for Howard, and use a large-breasted actress to play Beverly Switzer.

Judge Dredd; Leave the damn helmet on Stallone no matter what, and have him off Rob Schneider in the first five minutes.

The Dark Knight: Shorten the run-time by 30 minutes. concentrate more on Bruce Wayne/Batman, and less on Harvey Dent and Lucius Fox. And do not kill off Two Face quicker than he got killed in Batman Forever.

Speaking of Batman Forever: Take away the Bat-nipples, Bat-ballsacks, and the Bat-ass shot, plus remove either Two Face or The Riddler. And this one is pure gold.

Superman 3: Tell Richard Pryor to take the part seriously. Remove all of the slapstick opening scene.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: I wouldn't have caved-in to parental complaints about the first one's "violence." In fact, in this one I would have the turtles actually use their weapons and amp up the violence to PG-13 level just to piss parents off more. And oh, yeah, kill Vanilla Ice.

Blade Trinity: *sigh* Again, give Blade far more screen time. And his fight with Dracula should not have been intercut with the Van Wilder/Triple H fight.

 

[The Shadow]

The Phantom
Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
Superman II,III,IV,Returns
Catwoman
Supergirl
The Spirit : )

 

[Mrh7448]

The Dark Knight: Have Harvey disappear and assumed dead after the Hospital Explosion and thus opening up the events for #3

Spider Man 3: Have the final battle with only Sandman, Spidey in the Symbiote suit and almost killing Sandy or killing Harry. Civvies and cops look at him like a villain and he goes to the church where he uses the "bell" to get rid of the suit which drips down onto Eddie who followed Spidey after the final battle to become infected. Final shot Eddie as Venom leaping towards the camera...again opening up for a totally Venom/Spidey sequel.

X-men 3: Don't kill off Cyclops return Jean to the X-men fold and deal with Magneto and the Cure only. Don't deal with the Phoenix at all in this or the next one, just hints of it going to appear. Finish with Trask or whatever going to a sub-basement while they're talking about the threats of mutant kind specifically citing what happened in San Fran. Only to see or hint at the start of the sentinel program (if you're planning on continueing the franchise)

 

[OctaviusINC]

Spider Man 3: Have the final battle with only Sandman, Spidey in the Symbiote suit and almost killing Sandy or killing Harry. Civvies and cops look at him like a villain and he goes to the church where he uses the "bell" to get rid of the suit which drips down onto Eddie who followed Spidey after the final battle to become infected. Final shot Eddie as Venom leaping towards the camera...again opening up for a totally Venom/Spidey sequel.

I agree with this.


Daredevil Director's Cut: Cut out the playground battle.
Punisher '04: Set it in New York. Have only his wife and kid die not his WHOLE family.
Batman '89: Young Joker does NOT kill the Waynes.
Batman Forever: Tone down both villains. They're at an 11 I need them at about a 6.
Batman Begins: More Scarecrow.
TDK: Tie up The Joker's story arc (shot of him at Arkahm etc)
Constantine: No Keanu. Get a Blonde Brit. Set it in London.
Hellboy: Less origin. Less villains.
Fantastic Four 1 and 2: A better, stronger, scarier, colder, tougher Dr. Doom
Superman Returns: More Action Superman, Less stalker Superman. No SON!
V for Vendetta: Add more elements/themes from the book. Stop simplifying.
The Shadow: Get a better villain, and less "face time" for Baldwin and more Shadow.
The Phantom: Less camp. Less humor.
Iron Man: Have Iron Man BE Iron Man and not have his mask crushed 5 minutes into a fight.

 

[OwlBoy]

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Actually follow the storyline; piss off Alan Moore less.

Octavius, there wasn't that much origin in Hellboy; we're shown him being found and then we're immediately thrust into Myer's first day in the BPRD.

 

[nocomics]

I don't know if you mean either a do-over or just fix what was broken, but here goes:




The Dark Knight: Shorten the run-time by 30 minutes. concentrate more on Bruce Wayne/Batman, and less on Harvey Dent and Lucius Fox. And do not kill off Two Face quicker than he got killed in Batman Forever.

Speaking of Batman Forever: Take away the Bat-nipples, Bat-ballsacks, and the Bat-ass shot, plus remove either Two Face or The Riddler. And this one is pure gold.

Superman 3: Tell Richard Pryor to take the part seriously. Remove all of the slapstick opening scene.

Blade Trinity: *sigh* Again, give Blade far more screen time. And his fight with Dracula should not have been intercut with the Van Wilder/Triple H fight.

Agree with these,but will add:
Blade Trinity: Should of been a darker movie,and leave the stupid stuff out,plus the blind lady was not needed she was terrible. Second,needed two battles with dracula;one Blade gets ass kicked,second one much harsher,and brutal and little longer..
TDK: shorten the movie a little was a tad long for what was needed. I personally did'nt like the whole vigilante batman scene,and Bales batman voice was F'n annoying first part of movie.
DareDevil: Darker movie,more action...

Elektra: Better fight scenes,battles with the bad guys was weak..story needs to be readjusted.

Spiderman 3: Ditch the whole dance routine scenes. Ditch one of the bad guys either Sandman/Venom.

Wanted: more nakedness of AJ

 

[lou2099]

The Dark Knight: Have Harvey disappear and assumed dead after the Hospital Explosion and thus opening up the events for #3
Spider Man 3: Have the final battle with only Sandman, Spidey in the Symbiote suit and almost killing Sandy or killing Harry. Civvies and cops look at him like a villain and he goes to the church where he uses the "bell" to get rid of the suit which drips down onto Eddie who followed Spidey after the final battle to become infected. Final shot Eddie as Venom leaping towards the camera...again opening up for a totally Venom/Spidey sequel.
X-men 3: Don't kill off Cyclops return Jean to the X-men fold and deal with Magneto and the Cure only. Don't deal with the Phoenix at all in this or the next one, just hints of it going to appear. Finish with Trask or whatever going to a sub-basement while they're talking about the threats of mutant kind specifically citing what happened in San Fran. Only to see or hint at the start of the sentinel program (if you're planning on continueing the franchise)

to all

 

[Doctor Jones]

Agreed

The Phantom: Take down the hamminess and treat it more like an Indiana Jones peer than an Indiana Jones knock off.

X-men franchise: Make Wolverine a better fighter, make Iceman funnier, make Cyclops a more competent leader, make Juggie and Pr. X brothers, make Mystique less freakish, make Sabes more accurate and reoccurring.

X-Men 3: Wait for Bryan Singer

Fantastic Four: Find a more competent, genre-savvy director. Recast Invisible Woman and Dr. Doom. Play with the idea of Doom as a fifth crew member, but more along the lines of getting disfigured and blaming Reed rather than having dormant abilities. Cut down the "look what I can do" scenes and make them out to be more "celebrity" like, for example "putting out fires" type missions, pacifying low scale crimes and accidents.

Spiderman: No pressure for Raimi to use a character he didnt understand or want in the first place (Venom). Better written romance. At least make Pete care when his mask falls off.

Hulk: Balance the 2. The psychological issues of Lee's Hulk and the action/thriller tone of Lettier's

Daredevil: Less CGI, more emphasis on Murdock in the court room and as a person with less emphasis on the inflated origin intro. Darker, edgier, The Crow like atmosphere.

Hellboy: Let Doug Jones voice Abe from the beginning

Superman Returns: No Donner worship. Rehash Batman Begins style with an appropriate tone and a more physical threat. Lex in a similar role as the Timmverse animated series. Greedy corrupt business tycoon with "clean hands" Capone-esque criminal speculation (obvious but unable to prove). Lex as a supporting character rather the principal threat EVER. Recast Lane. Drop love triangle and love child.

Yeah, because he can so do that when a loved one is in danger or he's in the middle of a damn battle. Unless you don't want to see emotion coming from Peter by just blocking it out with a mask that barely moves. Tell me. Do you think the scene at the end of SM2 when Peter is talking to Ock with his mask off would of worked with the mask? That thing that barely moves in the jaw area. Where it's restricted of all emotion and acting capability?

 

[cerealkiller182]

Yeah, because he can so do that when a loved one is in danger or he's in the middle of a damn battle. Unless you don't want to see emotion coming from Peter by just blocking it out with a mask that barely moves. Tell me. Do you think the scene at the end of SM2 when Peter is talking to Ock with his mask off would of worked with the mask? That thing that barely moves in the jaw area. Where it's restricted of all emotion and acting capability?

PEter was never so careless even when it counted. People keep saying it restricted acting capability but I dont believe that. Tobys voice inflection was far more effective than most of his facial expression ever was

 

[Doctor Jones]

PEter was never so careless even when it counted. People keep saying it restricted acting capability but I dont believe that. Tobys voice inflection was far more effective than most of his facial expression ever was

Someone's voice just doesn't cut it in that thing. All his emotion comes from his eyes. You can do it in a comic or a cartoon, because in a cartoon it's flexible, and their's no really big lesson learned, and no epic showdown like in the films. But as stiff as that thing looks, I can't see any emotion. Jeez, some of you just don't understand about things working different on film. And you didn't answer my question about the ending of SM2 with Peter and Ock.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Someone's voice just doesn't cut it in that thing. All his emotion comes from his eyes. You can do it in a comic or a cartoon, because in a cartoon it's flexible, and their's no really big lesson learned, and no epic showdown like in the films. But as stiff as that thing looks, I can't see any emotion. Jeez, some of you just don't understand about things working different on film. And you didn't answer my question about the ending of SM2 with Peter and Ock.

Yes I did. I said his inflection was more effective than his facial expressions so yes it could have worked.

Not so sure why your annoyed that I think so. You can roll your eyes and say "some stuff doesnt work on film" but we dont know if it wouldnt have worked because we didnt see it happen. Instead we got three scenes of Spidey losing his mask consecutively. Its just poor pacing.

 

[Jochimus]

Well, most everything I'd do would be with Superman, which would never have happened back then because of the Salkinds' feuds with Hackman and Kidder and because of WB's abhorrence for accommodating more comics elements at that time:

Superman II - I'd keep everything in Donner's version except for three minor changes and one very siginificant narrative one at the end: 1) actually film the whole hotel room revelation sequence with the gun; 2) Change Superman's callout to Zod at the Planet office BACK to "Would you care to step outside?"; 3) Restore the deleted footage of Zod & Co. being hauled off by Arctic Patrol, so as to preserve Supes' code against killing; and 4) leave the love-triangle subplot at Superman and Lois' uncertain embrace outside the destroyed/sunken Fortress - so that she knows he's Superman from then on out instead of just copping the whole thing out after two films, then cut to another shot that was deleted from the film of Clark running into a bully at the Planet office, THEN go back to Rocky at the diner and on to the final scene at the White House.

Superman III - I'd probably keep the Lana/Ricky subplot, only throw in Lois to complicate the situation for our hero; also, Vaughn's character would have been Milton Fine, and Brainiac would have been the extraterrestrial A.I. he's allied with, under the pretense of being a new supercomputer that Fine has built; at the end it would be revealed that Fine is merely a robotic puppet of Brainiac (voiced by Vaughn). Pryor's involvement would have either been scaled back or removed completely, and as for the "dark Superman" subplot, I might have actually waited on that until...

Superman IV - Luthor probably would have been brought back (retaining the character's established switch from land-lubber to war profiteer: "Your Uncle Lex has had nothing on his mind the past few years except for one thing - Destroy Superman!"), and the anti-nuke theme would probably have been present, but significantly watered-down; also, the "Nuclear Man" subplot would be somewhat inverted and the character significantly altered - Luthor's super-clone would START OUT as a wavy-haired super-hunk version and THEN degenerate into the original version that was deleted from the film, going on a misguided attempt to depose Superman that leads to Jimmy nicknaming the poor shlub "Bizarro". Bizarro would be more the tragic Frankenstein figure here.

Superman V/Lives & Supergirl - Basically I would have waited until we were pretty much done with Superman before worrying about Supergirl, and then combined the two properties into one movie; have Doomsday and Superman put each other into pine boxes in the first half, with Kara picking up the mantle in the second when a robotic Superman comes forward trying to pass himself off as the man resurrected.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yes I did. I said his inflection was more effective than his facial expressions so yes it could have worked.

Not so sure why your annoyed that I think so. You can roll your eyes and say "some stuff doesnt work on film" but we dont know if it wouldnt have worked because we didnt see it happen. Instead we got three scenes of Spidey losing his mask consecutively. Its just poor pacing.

You can't imagine that? If they made the mask more flexible I could agree with you. But this is different. It's a film. It needs to be dramatic. I don't think it would of worked with Peter reaching out to Ock with his mask on. It was personal. If it didn't come off, it might seem like he doesn't care. I'm not trying to argue. Just to point out something that I think needed to be done and that was appropriate for these films. Think about it, please?

 

[Rain Dog]

Spider-Man 3: Get rid of Venom/symbiote, add the Vulture as Rami originally intended.

F4: Probably revamp the entire series. Recast it, give it new storyline, and turn Doctor Doom into Doctor Doom.

 

[cerealkiller182]

You can't imagine that? If they made the mask more flexible I could agree with you. But this is different. It's a film. It needs to be dramatic. I don't think it would of worked with Peter reaching out to Ock with his mask on. It was personal. If it didn't come off, it might seem like he doesn't care. I'm not trying to argue. Just to point out something that I think needed to be done and that was appropriate for these films. Think about it, please?

LOL, you most certainly are. Not that its a big deal, but you are definitely arguing.

I have and it doesnt bother me with his mask on. The last scene he could take off his mask if it didnt come off in the prior 2 scenes as if the mask wasnt even necessary in the first place.

 

[marukisu]

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[Ben Breeck]

New Superman:

Complete reboot based on Man of Steel, with no reference to Smallville or Birthright. Lex is a self made man, not old money. Better yet, make the classic first clash with Lex as a throwaway and use Brainiac, Metallo, Parasite, or Silver Banshee as the first movie's main villain, saving Lex's revenge for movie two or three.

Batman Forever and Batman and Robin:

Keep Tim Burton in the driver's seat. Use Jonathan Taylor Thomas (or some other then true child actor) for Dick Grayson/Robin. No Bane in Batman and Robin, and if Patrick Stewart won't do Mr. Freeze, replace him with Killer Croc, Deadshot, or the Ventriloquist with Scarface. Oh, and have a surprise climactic apperance by Michelle Pheiffer as Catwoman saving Bruce's ass. For Movie Five, flash back to his training as he investigates the goings on in Crime Alley and Burnley, and battles Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghul. Movie Six is The Killing Joke, replacing Joker with Ventriloquist with Scarface or Mugsy, Anarky, or Mad Bomber. Movie Seven is The Dark Knight Returns or Batman Beyond.

Fantastic Four:

Replace Jessica Alba with Reece Witherspoon, Kerri Russel, or Scarlet Johansen. Replace Tim Story with someone who is less of a studio stooge. Decide once and for all weather you are doing the 616 or Ultimate origin and stick with it. And if the latter, go with Mole Man or someone from the Negative Zone and leave Doom for the sequel. The Galactus/Silver Surfer storyline can waith until movie three.

X3:

Don't dick Bryan Singer around. Don't call character derailment character development. (Rogue and Magneto, I'm looking at you!) Don't cop out major charecter deaths (Professor X, I'm looking at you). And most of all don't bite off more than you can chew, leaving gaping holes in the story you are telling.

Spider-Man Franchise:

You already introduced Jonathan Jameson, bring the symbiote back with him on his next space mission. Gwen Stacy should be used in the first movie or not at all. Set Venom up for Movie Four rather than killing him off so soon, and end Movie Four with Peter and Mary Jane getting hitched. Movie Five is Book of Ezekiel, with Mayday born at the end. Movie six is a proper Spider-Girl movie that either drives Quesada to seppuku with a red hot ripsaw or else proves him to be an irredemable sociopath once and for all.

Daredevil:

Use the cut showing on FX as the Theatrical Cut. Sign Mark Steven Johnson to a four picture deal consisting of Born Again, Guardian Devil, Unmasked (Mix of Out, Lowlife, and Wiseguy) and King of Hell's Kitchen.

Incredible Hulk:

This year's version felt like the trailer to the movie it should have been. Make it the direct sequel to the Ang Lee version. Hire Peter David to co-screenwrite it, and keep it as far away from the Bill Bixby version as Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan did from the Adam West Batman. (Or at least, don't steal the theme music.)