Cop killer on the run calls out to celebs

[MessiahDecoy123]

So would you care if Domer was white and the cops and their families he killed were black?

Would I care about what?

 

[Schlosser85]

The victims.

 

[KalMart]

A ride in Universal Studios.........

 

[Hunter Rider]

Would I care about what?

Really? I'm asking if the roles were reversed and Domer was white and the victims were black would you be taking the same stance of caring more about how the killer is taken in than the people who were killed?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'm sure there are plenty of black cops who'd be utterly disgusted with the garbage currently being poured forth by you Messiah, you are using this issue to bang your racism drum.

I'm sure there are.

But then again I don't live to please black cops.

and how is what I said racist?

I'm sensitive about the racist symbolism involved and that makes me racist?

 

[Anita18]

It doesn't matter what he's accused of doing or how many whites are only concerned with justice, black men were routinely hunted like animals and lynched for acts of rebellion in south well into the 20th century by the KKK and it happened often. Knowing this and that enough whites share that attitude today, I can't root for his capture or death but I will hope that things are resolved without further violence.

You know how black people should try to get society to move past that? By taking MLK's route (or even Obama's) rather than Dorner's. He's not helping his own race by doing what he's doing.

I'm Asian. I don't get people to acknowledge that say, I have good English by whining that everyone says how Asians don't have good English. Or say that they're good at math but aren't good at EQ. I prove it every day.

This is all his own damn fault.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I'm sure there are.

But then again I don't live to please black cops.

and how is what I said racist?

I'm sensitive about the racist symbolism involved and that makes me racist?

You only care about this because Domer is black, him being black means you aren't even bothered if he's caught. This has nothing to do with racism, this is a murderer of innocent people being hunted by the cops, nothing more or less except in your mind.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

I'm sure there are.

But then again I don't live to please black cops.

and how is what I said racist?

I'm sensitive about the racist symbolism involved and that makes me racist?

Racist symbolism? This isn't an epic f***ing poem, it's a murder case. A cop went nuts and killed innocent civilians. Now the police are trying to bring him to justice. There is no symbolic gesture of racial dominance taking place here.

 

[KalMart]

I'm sure there are.

But then again I don't live to please black cops.

and how is what I said racist?

I'm sensitive about the racist symbolism involved and that makes me racist?

Messiah.....



.....If Domer in fact did encounter racism in the LAPD, it's despicible, and terrible, and inexcusable. I think we'd all agree on that. But that does not...and indeed nor does every act of racism commited in all of history...justify or excuse his murdering innocent people. Unless the LAPD had somehow specifically forced him to kill people, by design, then the responsibilities for those murders, despite what he may claim instigated his anger, is his responsibility and culpability alone. Now whether or not you have any respect for the LAPD, this is a crime against humanity, and he can't be excused from that because of misgivings with one law enforcement group.

Racism does not buy anyone leeway for murder. So even though one could understand your outrage towards corruption or an abuse of authority, it's important that Domer's crime is indeed acknowledged as a crime that he must be punished for. You might not like that it's the LAPD that would bring him in, but unless you can suggest a better organization to do it, it'll have to be them because we cannot let him go for this. He has to be brought to justice for his crimes, period. If the LAPD somehow contributed to his mindset, then perhaps we'll find out more about that and things will be done...but his capture and punishment need to happen regardless.

You don't have to root for or endorse the LAPD, but you can't let your dislike for them override what the decent and just thing is to do anywhere in the world.

 

[Anubis]

I'm just waiting for him to compare him to Nat Turner.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Really? I'm asking if the roles were reversed and Domer was white and the victims were black would you be taking the same stance of caring more about how the killer is taken in than the people who were killed?

The victims were black.

But if the manhunt was pursuing a white or even an apolitical black thug it wouldn't remind me of a Klan lynching.

Oddly enough I could say the same about Lee Malvo's capture. Maybe because his crime seemed more like thrill kills.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Messiah.....



.....If Domer in fact did encounter racism in the LAPD, it's despicible, and terrible, and inexcusable. I think we'd all agree on that. But that does not...and indeed nor does every act of racism commited in all of history...justify or excuse his murdering innocent people. Unless the LAPD had somehow specifically forced him to kill people, by design, then the responsibilities for those murders, despite what he may claim instigated his anger, is his responsibility and culpability alone. Now whether or not you have any respect for the LAPD, this is a crime against humanity, and he can't be excused from that because of misgivings with one law enforcement group.

Racism does not buy anyone leeway for murder. So even though one could understand your outrage towards corruption or an abuse of authority, it's important that Domer's crime is indeed acknowledged as a crime that he must be punished for. You might not like that it's the LAPD that would bring him in, but unless you can suggest a better organization to do it, it'll have to be them because we cannot let him go for this. He has to be brought to justice for his crimes, period. If the LAPD somehow contributed to his mindset, then perhaps we'll find out more about that and things will be done...but his capture and punishment need to happen regardless.

You don't have to root for or endorse the LAPD, but you can't let your dislike for them override what the decent and just thing is to do anywhere in the world.

Yeah I hope he turns himself in.

 

[KalMart]

Yeah I hope he turns himself in.

So does anyone, as one possibility. But if he's caught, it's still the same justice...because one way or another, he must stop. So don't look at it as any less if he's caught like any murderer should be. What he experienced or what is going on with the LAPD might have been a racist thing, it might not have been...or even somewhere in between. But him being brought to justice isn't. It's a human thing, right?

 

[Mike_D202]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Can I use that one?

Cause that's the reason this is bound to remain a divisive issue. I wouldn't have it any other way. People need to realize there may come a time when a person labeled a domestic terrorist may have similar moral reasoning as a large segment of the American population.

Because it will happen again and next time you may be the one who sees a "terrorist" as a potential freedom fighter.

and the government is preparing for it.

This reminds me...I watched a documentary about the L.A. Riots last weekend. The people being interviewed at that time period were trying to justify their actions (beating innocent people who weren't black, looting, vandalism, etc.) by what your trying to say: "Nobody wants to listen to us so we are resorting to violence." The LAPD is a huge police department, and just like any giant work place there will be some bad apples. Just because you get mistreated by a few dirt bags doesn't give anybody the right to harm innocent people.

 

[Hunter Rider]

The victims were black.

But if the manhunt was pursuing a white or even an apolitical black thug it wouldn't remind me of a Klan lynching.

Oddly enough I could say the same about Lee Malvo's capture either. Maybe because his crime seemed more like thrill kills.

How is this anything like a Klan lynching? The guy murdered 5 innocent people, how exactly do you expect people to react? He's a dangerous psycho, his colour is irrelevant, hell, people in this thread thought your stance was crazy when we all thought the guy was white.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Racist symbolism? This isn't an epic f***ing poem, it's a murder case. A cop went nuts and killed innocent civilians. Now the police are trying to bring him to justice. There is no symbolic gesture of racial dominance taking place here.

I didn't say the racist symbolism was intentional or even within control of those involved.

But that's what I see when read racist comments online and see the bloodlust toward Dorner. Maybe the two have nothing to do with each other but that's the connection I make.

and for the record I'm not one of those black people who were happy when OJ got off.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I didn't say the racist symbolism was intentional or even within control of those involved.

But that's what I see when read racist comments online and see the bloodlust toward Dorner. Maybe the two have nothing to do with each other but that's the connection I make.

and for the record I'm not one of those black people who were happy when OJ got off.

The bloodlust is a reflection of people's outrage at 5 innocent people being killed by this loon. How do you even know what color those wanting blood are? and you just told me the victims are black, so racist whites want the black killer to be killed because he murdered 5 people of a race they hate? surely he's a somewhat unexpected hero to the neo nazis and KKK.

 

[KalMart]

But that's what I see when read racist comments online and see the bloodlust toward Dorner. Maybe the two have nothing to do with each other but that's the connection I make.

Which is obviously ridiculous and unintelligent if racial, so not only pay it no mind, but don't dignify it by trying to offset it. If people want him caught and even put down for being a murderer...of any race....again, even thought it might be extreme and angry, that's human. %$#@ what they have to say, what do you think should happen to a multi-murderer at large?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

So does anyone, as one possibility. But if he's caught, it's still the same justice...because one way or another, he must stop. So don't look at it as any less if he's caught like any murderer should be. What he experienced or what is going on with the LAPD might have been a racist thing, it might not have been...or even somewhere in between. But him being brought to justice isn't. It's a human thing, right?

Yeah, I treated the Lee Malvo like a case of a murderer being brought to justice.

This one is different because the manifesto seems to have whistleblower elements and the LAPD has always had problems with racism/abuse.

 

[KalMart]

Yeah, I treated the Lee Malvo like a case of a murderer being brought to justice.

This one is different because the manifesto seems to have whistleblower elements and the LAPD has always had problems with racism/abuse.

I hear ya, but there is nothing that would justify the murder of innocents, though...even as a reaction. Doesn't get LAPD off the hook, but conversely it doesn't lessen his crime. So again, despite some understandable anger at the LAPD, don't weigh the crimes against eachother...bring them both to the full justice they deserve to meet in and of themselves.

 

[Hunter Rider]

If there was heat over him being a whistle blower then why is he alive three years after he made the claims? Surely if these corrupt LAPD officers are so bent they'd have littler trouble getting rid of him.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

You know how black people should try to get society to move past that? By taking MLK's route (or even Obama's) rather than Dorner's. He's not helping his own race by doing what he's doing.
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Yeah, the violence isn't going to convert any whites into being more tolerant or understanding of blacks.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

'Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that' - MLK

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

Apparently,Dorner purchased Scuba gears just a couple of days before his murder spree...

http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/11/lapd-...er-scuba-gear-sports-chalet-torrance-murders/

Hmmm...

 

[James]

Scuba gear? Wow, this whole thing just gets more and more interesting.

Which isn't to make light of the tragedy, only that from a story/observer perspective it's pretty fascinating.