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Corona and other diseases

Just so I am clear. The PM, the Chief Medical Officer, and the Health Secretary all have COVID-19 in the UK.

This tool, talking nonsense, has it.



And they aren't going to be testing others like Gove or MPs who were in the Commons while Boris was there. Every time I think, "Trump and his administration are unique", Britain proves me wrong.

Trump is still unique. When he gets asked these questions he says "that's a nasty question" and goes on the attack! He goes from it's all a conspiracy by Democrats and a hoax and we have 15 cases which will soon drop to zero and it will all just go away, to I knew it was a pandemic before everyone else and I've been right ...A LOT!! Noone can compete on the clown stakes with Trump, not even Boris who has many more years of real world professional clown experience.
 
I cannot wait til this mess is over. I feel like I'm really living in an Apocalypse world. From where I live, the nearest best hospitals out here are no longer accepting covid patients because they ran out of rooms and a lot of their doctors/nurses are also in quarantine.


Then the two streets where my building is near... they blocked the ways going out with wires and metals. So in 1 street, I couldn't go to 7/11 which is literally just five steps away from the blocking... then the other street, which is my way to the drugstore which isn't far as well, I had to freaking climb the gate because they put wires in the little space where people can enter. I felt like a criminal just climbing the gate and this was in my daytime. I guess all the residences in my area have to go through a police checkpoint now, in order to go to a grocery/a storebecause someone decided block the streets in the village. Its really annoying what is happening right now.
 
I was watching your government's presser from a few minutes ago. One member of the media pointed out just how bad the cuts to the NHS have been. Of course they couldn't deal with this influx. At the best of times, it would be terrible. But the government has seemingly been determined to cut your health services to the bare bone.

Also I hope your family is safe and getting the equipment they need. They are heroes.
Yeah, I had no idea that we had such a low ICU bed count compared to most developed nations. That's not really forgivable. Also NHS cuts are not something many people are asking for. Not sure why that would be a priority. Cut wastage sure, but not unquestionably important areas.

Thanks for the kind words. :up:
 
I was watching your government's presser from a few minutes ago. One member of the media pointed out just how bad the cuts to the NHS have been. Of course they couldn't deal with this influx. At the best of times, it would be terrible. But the government has seemingly been determined to cut your health services to the bare bone.

Also I hope your family is safe and getting the equipment they need. They are heroes.

Austerity from the 2008 financial collapse. Boris was in the process of reversing many of those cuts when corona struck.
 
Trump is still unique. When he gets asked these questions he says "that's a nasty question" and goes on the attack! He goes from it's all a conspiracy by Democrats and a hoax and we have 15 cases which will soon drop to zero and it will all just go away, to I knew it was a pandemic before everyone else and I've been right ...A LOT!! Noone can compete on the clown stakes with Trump, not even Boris who has many more years of real world professional clown experience.
That is very true. What I meant more is the result. Trump truly does have a special embarrassing way to get there, but in the end they all turn out to be idiots who are being craven in these situation.
 
Also Italy back up to 969 deaths. I was hoping their numbers might start improving.
 
That is very true. What I meant more is the result. Trump truly does have a special embarrassing way to get there, but in the end they all turn out to be idiots who are being craven in these situation.

Disagree. I've been labour my whole life but boris has come over well in the last week. His first daily briefing he introduced his advisors and said they will receive medical and scientific advice but at the end of the day he was the one responsible. Boris acts the buffoon sometimes, but it is an act.
 
Austerity from the 2008 financial collapse. Boris was in the process of reversing many of those cuts when corona struck.
Austerity was a choice. A bad one made by this very party. The idea that Boris was in the process of reversing these cuts is good in theory. But this same party is in power, and Boris, much like Trump, is a liar who knows what people want and is willing to tell them they will get it. Only to do the exact opposite.

I am too believe this guy and Tories cares about fixing the NHS?

Boris Johnson said patients should have to pay to use the NHS so they will 'value' it more

The NHS has barely survived under the Tories. Boris Johnson’s victory will be its death knell ǀ View

Grace Blakeley: The Tories claim the NHS is not for sale – the truth is, it's already been sold
 
Also Italy back up to 969 deaths. I was hoping their numbers might start improving.
People are on ventilators for 2 to 3 weeks before they die in many cases. So it will take a while.
 
Disagree. I've been labour my whole life but boris has come over well in the last week. His first daily briefing he introduced his advisors and said they will receive medical and scientific advice but at the end of the day he was the one responsible. Boris acts the buffoon sometimes, but it is an act.
Yes, the guy telling everyone to social distance themselves, then himself didn't, got infected, and now we don't know how many he has infected. Boris knows how to come off well to people who take him at face value. That he is a notorious liar really should tell people they shouldn't do that.
 
Disagree. I've been labour my whole life but boris has come over well in the last week. His first daily briefing he introduced his advisors and said they will receive medical and scientific advice but at the end of the day he was the one responsible. Boris acts the buffoon sometimes, but it is an act.
Boris was a popular Mayor of London but when you are going for the prime minister job it is time to drop the buffoon act.
 
People are on ventilators for 2 to 3 weeks before they die in many cases. So it will take a while.
I hope that’s right yeah. It makes sense. So hopefully once the current batch of serious/critical patients have come through the system it will start improving.
 
Austerity was a choice. A bad one made by this very party. The idea that Boris was in the process of reversing these cuts is good in theory. But this same party is in power, and Boris, much like Trump, is a liar who knows what people want and is willing to tell them they will get it. Only to do the ex5act opposite.

I am too believe this guy and Tories cares about fixing the NHS?

Boris Johnson said patients should have to pay to use the NHS so they will 'value' it more

The NHS has barely survived under the Tories. Boris Johnson’s victory will be its death knell ǀ View

Grace Blakeley: The Tories claim the NHS is not for sale – the truth is, it's already been sold

Look at the last budget. They were in the process of reversing the cuts. Boris was planning a spending spree. Just not as big as it now is.

Budget 2020: NHS to get £6,000,000,000 for nurses and hospitals | Metro News

50,000 new nurses, 40 new hospitals etc...
 
Did you guys see that Coronavirus party in Kentucky?
 
Look at the last budget. They were in the process of reversing the cuts. Boris was planning a spending spree. Just not as big as it now is.

Budget 2020: NHS to get £6,000,000,000 for nurses and hospitals | Metro News

50,000 new nurses, 40 new hospitals etc...
Except again, it's obvious political speak that breaks down once you look into the numbers and how vague it actually is and where a lot of the money will be really going.

The truth behind Boris Johnson's money for the NHS • FUND OUR NHS

The Guardian view on Boris Johnson’s budget: we are all Keynesians now | Editorial

Saying you are going to do something, then actually doing it are things Boris has an issue with. You know, like the Garden Bridge.
 
Except again, it's obvious political speak that breaks down once you look into the numbers and how vague it actually is and where a lot of the money will be really going.

The truth behind Boris Johnson's money for the NHS • FUND OUR NHS

The Guardian view on Boris Johnson’s budget: we are all Keynesians now | Editorial

Saying you are going to do something, then actually doing it are things Boris has an issue with. You know, like the Garden Bridge.

Did you even read the guardian article?
 
And once again, it is about the sources. Trump should not be listening to Dr. Oz. No one should. The fact that it is Dr. Oz and not Dr. Fauci is cause for great, great concern.

But that isn't what that tweet was saying. Nothing there saying that Trump or anyone in the White House is taking Dr. Oz advice over Dr. Fauci's. So far(things can change quickly I know with this administration), Fauci has also downplayed any supposed rift between Trump and himself.

VINCE COGLIANESE: It seems like increasingly a bunch of questions from the media are designed to create a rift between you and the President of the United States, at least, to emphasize differences of opinion that creates distances between you and the president. Are you sensing that as the media continually asks you questions about the differences you have with him?

DR. ANTHONY FAUCI: That is really unfortunate. I would wish that would stop because we have a much bigger problem here than trying to point out differences. They really, fundamentally, at the core when you look at it, there are not differences. The president has listened to what I’ve said with the other people on the task force have said. When I’ve made recommendations, he’s taken them. He’s never countered and overridden me. The idea of pitting one against the other is just not helpful and I’d wish that would stop so we can look ahead at the challenge we have together to get over this thing.
 

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