Darren Aronofsky's: Noah

[Human Torch]

I saw an advanced screening with a friend. I am a Christian, raised in church and currently teaches Sunday School. My friend that I invited is an atheist. We both are big Aronofsky fans. We both loved it. I think everyone should chill.

I signed some of that paperwork crap and probably shouldn't saying anything about the film, but all this bickering is annoying. The film is actually a pretty good interpretation of the tone of the Biblical account, yet it's not Sunday Schoolish at all. Both extremes can like this film. Not saying they will, but they can. Just as with any film, some like it, others don't. However, if you go in with an open mind, your thoughts on the Biblical story of Noah(Yay Or Nay) won't affect your thoughts on this film.

Interesting.

For the record,I'm not pro or con this movie until I see it (which probably won't be on the big screen).

My only two cents,I doubt I'll be very happy if the rumors of Noah taking it upon himself to decide whether humanity deserves to live or not are true.

I'm not saying he can't ruminate on the subject or verbalize his moral misgivings (probably to his wife).Obviously,that's good drama I expect them to mine.

But it's a fine line to tread.If they overdo it (and again I'm just going by what I've read) like it sounds,Noah comes off like a wacko.There's nothing in the Bible to suggest Noah was off his nut.

 

[DA_Champion]

But it's a fine line to tread.If they overdo it (and again I'm just going by what I've read) like it sounds,Noah comes off like a wacko.There's nothing in the Bible to suggest Noah was off his nut.

Really?

He's on his own for 100 years building a giant arc, dismissed by the whole of society because he hears a voice he thinks is God.

Prior to that, he has different ideas of how to live than everybody else, that takes a special, iconoclastic, mind to pull off. If he were a historical figure, he'd probably have been autistic. The very strong natural instinct of most people is to go with the flow.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Really? A disclaimer? This is pretty funny if you ask me

http://www.cinemablend.com/m/new/Pa...keting-Consulting-Darren-Aronofsky-41987.html

"The film is inspired by the story of Noah. While artistic license has been taken, we believe that this film is true to the essence, values, and integrity of a story that is a cornerstone of faith for millions of people worldwide. The biblical story of Noah can be found in the book of Genesis."

 

[Tequilla]

I think they should add this disclaimers to all adaptations.

"The film is inspired by the legacy of Batman. While artistic license has been taken, we believe that this film is true to the essence, values, and integrity of a story that is a cornerstone of veneration for millions of people worldwide. The canonical story of Batman can be found in the entire dc catalogue."

Bam. No more fan backlash.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Personally I find that quite silly and non-sensical

 

[weezerspider]

Interesting.

For the record,I'm not pro or con this movie until I see it (which probably won't be on the big screen).

My only two cents,I doubt I'll be very happy if the rumors of Noah taking it upon himself to decide whether humanity deserves to live or not are true.

I'm not saying he can't ruminate on the subject or verbalize his moral misgivings (probably to his wife).Obviously,that's good drama I expect them to mine.

But it's a fine line to tread.If they overdo it (and again I'm just going by what I've read) like it sounds,Noah comes off like a wacko.There's nothing in the Bible to suggest Noah was off his nut.

It really depends on the viewer and the viewer's interpretation of the film. Did you like The Last Temptation of Christ? I found it quite moving for what it was trying to accomplish, yet many viewers interpreted it as blasphemy. I can see where they are coming from, yet I believe they fully mis-interpreted the film. I found Aronofksy's Noah very relate-able and very believable. He's not perfect, but he's not God, so he's not supposed to be. It was a good artistic expression of the story of Noah, in my opinion, and that's all I really need from a film.

 

[jmc]

Paramount are really worried about this film flopping. They are basically saying 'Look, can you please put aside your religious beliefs and come and just watch the movie?'

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

It's too bad that the disclaimer may actually upset people more than draw them into the theater.

 

[jmc]

The thing Paramount should just accept is that there's going to be a segment of the audience that will refuse anything other than a literal translation of the story. They should be promoting this film no differently to any other blockbuster fantasy movie.

 

[Marvolo]

The thing Paramount should just accept is that there's going to be a segment of the audience that will refuse anything other than a literal translation of the story. They should be promoting this film no differently to any other blockbuster fantasy movie.

Agreed. Paramount cant worry about these people. The people wanting a literal translation dont realize that a literal sunday school translation wouldnt be a compelling film at all. It lacks a protagonist. It lacks any real arc. Lacks suspense. Lacks complex human emotions. Noah gets the vision builds the arc and saves mankind and animals. Its all very cookie cutter. These people dont know how to make a good film to save their lives. They just care about literal interpretation first and foremost. Thankfully they are a small minority and outside of the US people who take the story this literally are an even smaller minority. If this film is good then it should do good internationally, religious people in the US and their griping be damned.

 

[jmc]

100% correct. A literal translation would make a terrible movie.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I agree on the disclaimer hurting more then helping. The chances that most seeing this film have even read the Bible story and care about a completely "faithful" adaptation is actually probably pretty low, no matter how "religious" they are. They wouldn't know what to complain about. Now you have given them an idea that there is something to complain about.

 

[The Silent Traveler]

Christians discouraging others to watch Noah on my Facebook newsfeed have captivated my attention to watch. I don't get why Christians don't want others to watch it without actually watching it. It hasn't been came out until March 28th yet.

 

[Marvolo]

Christians discouraging others to watch Noah on my Facebook newsfeed have captivated my attention to watch. I don't get why Christians don't want others to watch it without actually watching it. It hasn't been came out until March 28th yet.

Cause this blasphemous film made by that ungodly heathen Aronofsky will give good christians ideas. Ideas straight from the Devil himself, who was an executive producer on the film.

*strong sarcasm*

jkjkjkjk

Haha

Lol

Not serious.

Edited: so that this post isnt read as a serious attack on christians.

 

[Snow Queen]

Ideas straight from the Devil himself, who was an executive producer on the film.

I don't see Michael Bay's name anywhere on this.

 

[MrMaooz]

I don't see Michael Bay's name anywhere on this.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Cause this blasphemous film made by that ungodly heathen Aronofsky will give good christians ideas. Ideas straight from the Devil himself, who was an executive producer on the film.

I can see nothing has changed in this thread.

 

[Snow Queen]

Who else but the devil would bring us Revenge of the Fallen?

 

[Marvolo]

I can see nothing has changed in this thread.

Lighten up and laugh a little. Its good for your health.

The only theological reason these christians could have for advising other christians not to see it is that they think the film is somehow blasphemous or ungodly. Which is pretty foolish. Noah being a human capable of human emotions and weaknesses isnt blasphemous. Its...human.

If their reasons was it being a terribly made film I could respect that, but they havent seen the films so how could they possibly know that? They couldnt and they dont. They just dont like that someone interpreted the story in a way that wasnt 100% literal and 100% what is in the book.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Lighten up and laugh a little. Its good for your health.

I haven't seen anything worth laughing about, just another random poster who thinks he's being clever by belittling people. There have already been multiple warnings in this thread to can the insults and sweeping generalizations and take the religious debate elsewhere.

 

[Marvolo]

I haven't seen anything worth laughing about, just another random poster who thinks he's being clever by belittling people. There have already been multiple warnings in this thread to can the insults and sweeping generalizations and take the religious debate elsewhere.

I wasnt insulting anyone here (unless you are one of the ones telling people not to see it because it is a blasphemous film from the devil himself - I dont think you are - and I know you saw my sarcasm smiley) and I am not debating at all in that post.

I do find it hard to fathom how someone can think this film at all hurts or hinders the central tennants of christianity or would somehow hurt someones salvation and belief in the christian god. I cant wrap my head around that kind of thought process.

But sincerely I put the sarcasm smiley there for a reason. I know you dont think in hyperbolic terms like I put in that post. It was meant in jest. Perhaps the smiley would have been more appropriate than the sarcasm smiley.

 

[Human Torch]

I haven't seen anything worth laughing about, just another random poster who thinks he's being clever by belittling people. There have already been multiple warnings in this thread to can the insults and sweeping generalizations and take the religious debate elsewhere.

 

[Human Torch]

100% correct. A literal translation would make a terrible movie.

They did a good enough job in Huston's The Bible.

But nowadays every Bible film is abut "teh conflict and drama".

As I said before,I'm not really going to judge the film before seeing it,but there's really no excuse for making Noah off his rocker,wanting to destroy humanity.

Taken to it's logical conclusion,one would have to wonder why God chose such an unstable individual to repopulate the world.

 

[Human Torch]

It really depends on the viewer and the viewer's interpretation of the film. Did you like The Last Temptation of Christ? I found it quite moving for what it was trying to accomplish, yet many viewers interpreted it as blasphemy. I can see where they are coming from, yet I believe they fully mis-interpreted the film. I found Aronofksy's Noah very relate-able and very believable. He's not perfect, but he's not God, so he's not supposed to be. It was a good artistic expression of the story of Noah, in my opinion, and that's all I really need from a film.

I turned it on (accidentally,mind you) and was too infuriated to continue past the first 2 minutes I saw of it.

 

[Marvolo]

They did a good enough job in Huston's The Bible.

But nowadays every Bible film is abut "teh conflict and drama".

As I said before,I'm not really going to judge the film before seeing it,but there's really no excuse for making Noah off his rocker,wanting to destroy humanity.

Taken to it's logical conclusion,one would have to wonder why God chose such an unstable individual to repopulate the world.

You consider it unstable for a human being to have a moment of weakness after witnessing the depravity sinners and them trying to storm the arc and then watching as all of humanity (men women and children) all but his family is wiped out and everything he ever knew is gone? Most people would call that normal. A nonreaction would be abnormal. This is what people dont stop and think about. Noah is still human and subject to human emotions and weaknesses. What Noah goes through and witnesses will have an effect on the emotional state.

The fact he broke down doesnt make him weak or ubstable. It makes him human. The important key thing is he doesnt go through with killing himself and his family. He turns away from that thought. After witnessing the nearly complete annhilation of his species and a mental breakdown he picked himself up and conpleted God's will. Like God knew he would. Thats why God chose him. He could take it and get past that breakdown. He was strong enough to do what God needed him to do.

This is called complexity. Its not a bad thing. This makes Noah look stronger imo than some dude who never reacts or fluctuates. By including this complexity they gave Noah an emotional arc. A good one imo.