Darren Aronofsky's: Noah

[ThePhantasm]

This is a movie specifically about religion.

Did you expect people to not discuss Vietnam/Nixon after watching Watchmen?
Did you expect people to not discuss torture/surveillance after watching The Dark Knight?
Did you expect people not to discuss George Bush after Oliver Stone's W came out? What about Zero Dark Thirty?
Did you expect people not to discuss religion when Passion of the Christ came out?
Did you expect people not to discuss Aparatheid in the District 9 thread?

Seriously man ...

Um, actually yeah. If you are debating whether or not those films have a political / religious message, that's one thing. If you are debating the actual politics / religion itself, then you are no longer really discussing the film and there's a different thread for that sort of thing.

Not that hard to grasp, really.

 

[DA_Champion]

This is not the forum for people to argue their beliefs. If you disagree, tough noogies. Move on.

Seriously.

Well, I looked up the District 9 thread, and Apartheid was brought up a few times and I didn't come close to reading the ~90 page thread, so the precedent is there.

Movies that are strongly about politics/religion cannot be discussed properly without binging up what they're about.

Why don't you go discuss romantic comedies with a rule that nobody should ever discuss love, fidelity, and sex?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There is a big difference between discussing how film handles issues, and complaining that a film got it wrong because it doesn't match the source material word for word. One is film discussion, the other is fanboying.

Take District 9. You exam the themes and how the film conveys them. You discuss the film for its merits when doing so. There has been none of this here, nor could they be because the film isn't even out yet.

Instead we are talking about whether the story is real or not, and whether people believe it or not. And how such beliefs seemingly tie into the quality of a film.

 

[dark_b]

Noah Featurette The Ark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPSWZPg5kiU

 

[Dark_Lord]

Trailer 2 with Emma Watson Intro
[YT]iYSwdh-GznY[/YT]

 

[Loki882]

Ah Emma, you're so lovely. I adore you.

 

[Pink Ranger]

http://huff.to/1hTWkIR

That doesn't make a lick of sense, as Passion Of The Christ was a hit in Islamic countries, and Jesus is viewed as a prophet in that religion.

Then again, they likely made an exception for Passion, as it portrays Jews in such a negative light that it was like candy to them.

 

[dark_b]

'' goes with them pretty much all the way into moral ground so murky that the bad guy in the film gives a speech that would have been a hero speech in The Lord of the Rings. In terms of the issues it tackles and the way it addresses them, Noah is certainly one of the strangest, most unique and bravest wide release movies in memory.''



http://badassdigest.com/2014/03/11/first-noah-clip-hey-kids-were-building-an-ark/

 

[Pink Ranger]

If any major Evangelical group calls for a boycott of this movie, then I am definitely buying a ticket.

 

[Destructus86]

It's a movie. What does religion have to do with it? Unless you were expecting to go into a movie just to learn and not be entertained. If that's the case, go to a lecture instead.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I guess certain people within certain groups believe they inherently own certain stories, and anything that challenges their assumptions is some sort of abomination. I mean, look at the issues that some Jewish groups had with Munich, and that stuff happened just 40 years ago.

 

[redhawk23]

http://badassdigest.com/2014/03/11/first-noah-clip-hey-kids-were-building-an-ark/

Devin Faraci and others were flown down to Mexico City for the premier.

Crazy fantasy elements confirmed. Not really a spoiler

Spoiler

I'm not allowed to review the film until opening day but I can tell you that Aronofsky wasn't kidding when he said this is a fantasy film. The marketing still shies away from that - you haven't gotten a good look at the giant, rock-covered, multi-limbed, battle-ready fallen angels known as The Watchers, for instance - but it's all there. The fantasy stuff is cool, and Aronofsky posits a totally different world and technology that is wiped away and lost forever after the flood (even the sky looks different back then), but that doesn't seem to be the toughest sell to me. The toughest sell is the film's tone - Noah is basically a movie about a zealot doomsday prepper who is proven right, and it ruthlessly follows through on his commitment to fulfill the wishes of God... as he sees them.

 

[Pink Ranger]

It would be worth it just to see Nick Nolte play an angel. That's like getting Seth Roegen to play a personal trainer.

 

[dark_b]

fallen angel

 

[Pink Ranger]

fallen angel

Must have been from quite a height, by the looks of him.

 

[Marvolo]

Trailer 2 with Emma Watson Intro
[YT]iYSwdh-GznY[/YT]

At 1:09 is that supposed to be an angel (Gabriel?Random Saraphim?) facing off against an army of demons? Cause that army he is facing is insanely large. Like hundreds of thousands. It stretches beyond the horizon!

Oh and Id just like to say paramount is screwing up with the non religious crowd. Ive yet to see a trailer that will sell this movie to my non religious friends. They all have the same reaction, "Its noah a bible story. Im not interested in sunday school stories." Or its just a general "meh" reaction. Paramount needs to release a full trailer giving an idea of the fantasy. Cause my reassurances to my friends that this is more than just a man and a boat isnt doing much. We need a trailer with this other technology that was lost after the flood, we need a glimpse of the watchers and other angles, and a look at the larger world. They keep showing the same environments : woods. This world has to show a large city at some point. Show that ****. Give me something to get people to bite, cause right now this "safe" marketing campaign aint ****.

 

[Pink Ranger]

At 1:09 is that supposed to be an angel (Gabriel?Random Saraphim?) facing off against an army of demons? Cause that army he is facing is insanely large. Like hundreds of thousands. It stretches beyond the horizon!

Oh and Id just like to say paramount is screwing up with the non religious crowd. Ive yet to see a trailer that will sell this movie to my non religious friends. They all have the same reaction, "Its noah a bible story. Im not interested in sunday school stories." Or its just a general "meh" reaction. Paramount needs to release a full trailer giving an idea of the fantasy. Cause my reassurances to my friends that this is more than judt a man and a boat isnt doing much. We need a trailer with this other technology that was lost after the flood, we need a glimpse of the watchers and other angles, and a look at the larger world. They keep ahowing the same environments : woods. This world has yo show a large city at some point. Show that ****. Give me something to get people to bite, cause right now this "safe" marketing campaign aint ****.

Agreed. I had no interest in seeing this movie, until I actively decided to read more about it. Most people won't do that, so it's not good marketing.

It's almost like they're banking on getting a hysterically negative reaction from Focus On The Family or some such organization and hoping to get free publicity from that.

 

[dark_b]

agreed. marketing is very bad. but we knew this would happen. studios are afraid.

 

[Marvolo]

agreed. marketing is very bad. but we knew this would happen. studios are afraid.

You would think they would know that fantasy fans will make them bank if they sell it to us. We've been making them bank for years. Frankly there is nothing fantastical about this beyond typical bible stuff, and we got enough of that in sunday school. But if they show a Watcher or an angel tearing **** up fantasy fans will pour in. At this point the studio is going to cause their worst fear to come true and I guarantee it they will blame it on the film and Aronofsky.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Agree on the marketing. It is like they are trying so hard to play up the religious angle, it makes the film look boring to anyone not looking for that.

 

[Marvolo]

Agree on the marketing. It is like they are trying so hard to play up the religious angle, it makes the film look boring to anyone not looking for that.

Not only does it look like boring typical disaster porn it gives the impression it will preach to you. General audience doesnt go to the movies to be preached to.

They could have averted these fears and shown the uniqueness of the film. But nope they put all their cards in the religious crowd's corner.

On the bright side this isnt a film that needs a sequel. At the very least it got made. So if it bombs we still have the film. Problem is if this bombs it might make Hollywood shy about taking risks on new takes on Bible stories. And thats a shame. If my friends and family arent sold on it by March 28 Im just gonna buy their tickets (Immediately family and one or two close friends). I want this movie to do well and I think they will like it if I can just get them in the theater. Stupid marketing is actually costing me more money.

 

[Raiden]

Trailer 2 with Emma Watson Intro
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If the last women left on Earth after the Great Flood looked like Jennifer Connelly and Emma Watson, the descendants should all be looking like models.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Not only does it look like boring typical disaster porn it gives the impression it will preach to you. General audience doesnt go to the movies to be preached to.

They could have averted these fears and shown the uniqueness of the film. But nope they put all their cards in the religious crowd's corner.

On the bright side this isnt a film that needs a sequel. At the very least it got made. So if it bombs we still have the film. Problem is if this bombs it might make Hollywood shy about taking risks on new takes on Bible stories. And thats a shame.

All very true.

If the last women left on Earth after the Great Flood looked like Jennifer Connelly and Emma Watson, the descendants should all be looking like models.

The end of the world wouldn't be so bad with them around.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

You'd have to be very naive if you don't think Christianity is under assault from militant atheism these days.

Assault? Please. By whom? A few YouTube personalities and bloggers? Yes, asking for separation of church and state is really being militant.

 

[hammerhedd11]

What I really don't understand is all the scoffing at Paramount for putting a disclaimer on the advertising regarding its faithfulness to the material, when the very same people go nuts when a comic book film deviates at all from its own source.