Discussion: Alternative Energy

[Carcharodon]

Please tell me you dont have kids dude....
"**** and go to bed Timmy! There is no boogie man!!!"

Well, if Timmy would stop being such a little ***** about the stupid imaginary Boogie Man, I wouldn't have to be so harsh, would I?

 

[EdRyder]

Well, if Timmy would stop being such a little ***** about the stupid imaginary Boogie Man, I wouldn't have to be so harsh, would I?





Yes, mother.

Take it easy dad

 

[Malice]

The Democrats will expand their majority this year. I highly doubt Congress would approve of it.

I think they will expand...but I think the public is going to scream so loud, they will be forced to.

 

[Carcharodon]

Take it easy dad

How did you know?

 

[The Senator]

I think they will expand...but I think the public is going to scream so loud, they will be forced to.

Ted Stevens, the senior senator from Alaska and the leading proponent for drilling in ANWR, is facing a difficult re-election bid. His opponent is strongly opposed to drilling in ANWR. If Stevens is defeated, I would expect opening up ANWR to be totally out of the question.

 

[StorminNorman]

We need to start drilling in areas like Montana, South Dakota and off the coast of my great state of Florida. We need to start turning Coal into Oil and we need to utilize Oil Shale.

If we do this, or at least look like we are serious about this, OPEC will lower prices. It has happened in the past.

 

[Malice]

OK its decided.
My number one concern over all else...war included, is energy.

I dont think some of you younger folks realize, that this is killing businesses and putting people out of work.

Here are a few thoughts
1) Lets say someone comes into power in OPEC and refuses to sell us oil?
This country will grind to a halt in about 45 days. Massive power plant outages, infrastructure will stop, you name it. 30 days into it, I can imagine people walking around with hoses to try to siphon gas from others...and of course, people will then be "shooting to kill"

Anyone that says we dont need Oil is plain stupid. Planes...busses...cars...farm equipment...power plants all run on oil to a large degree. Imagine all this stopping.

The new person in power MUST DRILL everywhere, responsibly, I sympathize with the environmentalists, but this country will DIE without it.

2) If we do become somewhat energy independent with oil or something else?
We are then, not answering to others. Others power over us ENDS. We went to Iraq for oil, Bush says its for their safety, and I believe he thinks that partially...but WE HAVE TO HAVE THE OIL. Eliminate that need from others, and bamn, we no longer need to answer to outside countries influence.

 

[The Senator]

Energy has been my number one concern for years now. We need to get off oil, or start dipping into our reserves. And we need to reinvest in nuclear power. It's clean and fuel efficient.

I'm against corn-based ethanol, I think it's moronic to invest in an energy which will reduce the amount of food available in this country. I think solar and wind power are good ideas, but it is impossible to build enough solar panels/ wind turbines to take care of our vast energy needs. That's why nuclear is important. It's realistic to expand nuclear power on such a large scale-- we've already done it.

Of course, it would be better if people stopped wasting energy. But that won't happen.

 

[Malice]

I agree...wholeheartedly.

 

[bunk]

We'll still be primarily on oil for good while though, regardless what any politician says. Unfortunately, we've waited longer than we should've to really get going on alternative fuels and so it's going to be a less comfortable transition than it could've been. The problem is that none of the best alternative fuel concepts are close enough to being implemented the way they need to be. We're still a ways away, but one good thing is that we're getting into the correct mindset which is half the battle. It's like quitting smoking. You have to really want to first, if it's going to happen.

 

[Carcharodon]

MUST DRILL everywhere, responsibly...

Does not compute.

 

[StorminNorman]

We need to drill off shore in Florida and in Alaska. Now. We need to focus on Coal to Fuel as well. While we need to fully exhaust every option for alternative fuel sources - we have to realize it will be close to 10 years before anything outside of oil can realistically become the number one source.

 

[tzarinna]

Agree, something must be done. Crime is increasing, people have to feed their families some how and tempers are flaring. Hell, DC is practically on lock down.

Oil sucks ass.

 

[The Senator]

Agree, something must be done. Crime is increasing, people have to feed their families some how and tempers are flaring. Hell, DC is practically on lock down.

Oil sucks ass.

Which is why I'm glad I live in Northeast... that is, when I am actually in the District...

 

[tzarinna]

I'm glad I sold my house in NW. That area seems to really be getting hit hard, Columbia Heights area, total nightmare.

 

[The Senator]

I'm glad I sold my house in NW. That area seems to really be getting hit hard, Columbia Heights area, total nightmare.

I wonder how long it will be until the city erects a wall around Southeast... I hear folks there are tearing each other apart...

 

[tzarinna]

You think we'll get another riot, worst than the last?

 

[Poetic Chaos]

OK its decided.
My number one concern over all else...war included, is energy.

Agreed. My friends family runs a Valero and they expect gas to be up to $6 by July.

 

[Tron5000]

Want Congress (that loveable body who is supposed to provide for and take care of all of us) to do something about our energy situation? Want a pathway to energy independence? Want to tell Iran, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia to take a hike?

Then do something about it. Sign the petition.

http://www.americansolutions.com/

 

[The Senator]

Want Congress (that loveable body who is supposed to provide for and take care of all of us) to do something about our energy situation? Want a pathway to energy independence? Want to tell Iran, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia to take a hike?

Then do something about it. Sign the petition.

http://www.americansolutions.com/

No thanks.

 

[Tron5000]

No thanks.

Then just keep on a-chugging along paying that $4. Fine with me.

 

[The Senator]

Then just keep on a-chugging along paying that $4. Fine with me.

I rarely use a vehicle, so $4 a gallon does not bother me personally.

But, uh, there's no evidence which suggests that oil prices will go down if we start drilling in Alaska, so I have absolutely no reason to support drilling in one of the last remaining wildlife refuges in the country...

 

[moraldeficiency]

I rarely use a vehicle, so $4 a gallon does not bother me personally.

You're a very very fortunate man.

 

[Tron5000]

I rarely use a vehicle, so $4 a gallon does not bother me personally.

But, uh, there's no evidence which suggests that oil prices will go down if we start drilling in Alaska, so I have absolutely no reason to support drilling in one of the last remaining wildlife refuges in the country...

The area that would be drilled covers only a few acres. It's not like they're planning to raze the entire refuge.

The idea also calls for drilling off of our shoreline (where you can't see it). China is already doing so, but our laws prevent US companies from enjoying the same spoils as the Chinese. And in the history of US drilling, only one one-thousandth of a percent (0.001) of our drilled oil has ever been spilled. Even through Hurricanes Rita and Katrina, oil derricks were destroyed and not a drop of oil was spilled.

So what if we drilled here and paid exactly the same amount for gas. Would you rather purchase it from Iran, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia? Are you more comfortable lining their pockets than pumping our own money right back into the US economy?

 

[The Senator]

The area that would be drilled covers only a few acres. It's not like they're planning to raze the entire refuge.

So what if we drilled here and paid exactly the same amount for gas. Would you rather purchase it from Iran, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia? Are you more comfortable lining their pockets than pumping our own money right back into the US economy?

What's the difference then? That's like asking me if I'd rather buy an American television instead of a Japanese television-- but the only drawback would be that a city in the midwest will have to be bulldozed to the ground in order to make room for the new TV processing plant.

I mean... if it still costs the same, then what does it matter that we are getting 55% our oil from overseas sources?

The oil companies will still be the ones in charge there, they'll still be making record profits while our middle class teeters on the brink of economic disparity... my issue isn't where the oil comes from, it's 1) how much it costs and 2) how the oil executives are raping the wallets of your everyday, middle-class workers.

I support oil independence, but why can't we drill for oil in MT and ND, where no one lives, and no wildlife refuges will be in danger?