Superman Returns Does anyone think Singer was worried about Rouths acting ability?

[hurley711]

Personally, I think he was fine in the movie. But after reading a ton of reviews on the internet, I have seen more than a few where the reviewer questions the amount of dialogue Routh is given in the film, which is justified. He nails what is pretty much everything that is given to him, IMO, but you have to admit, there isn't a ton of script in there for him to work with. A bunch of lines are very similar to the Reeve lines in S:TM. A few of the reviews, I believe Eberts was one of them, suggest concern that Routh wasn't all that good and that SInger was concerned with giving him too much. Anyone else getting this vibe? For coming out of nowhere and taking on such a HUGE role I think he was OK, but the lack of dialogue I guess is a little concerning. Although as stated above, I think he nailed most of what was given to him.

 

[bosef982]

Personally, I think he was fine in the movie. But after reading a ton of reviews on the internet, I have seen more than a few where the reviewer questions the amount of dialogue Routh is given in the film, which is justified. He nails what is pretty much everything that is given to him, IMO, but you have to admit, there isn't a ton of script in there for him to work with. A bunch of lines are very similar to the Reeve lines in S:TM. A few of the reviews, I believe Eberts was one of them, suggest concern that Routh wasn't all that good and that SInger was concerned with giving him too much. Anyone else getting this vibe? For coming out of nowhere and taking on such a HUGE role I think he was OK, but the lack of dialogue I guess is a little concerning. Although as stated above, I think he nailed most of what was given to him.

I didn't even notice if he did or did not have a great deal of dialogue. It felt all very organic to me. It's odd, X3 reviews that are negative pick out fairly obvious flaws, SR reviews that attempt to be negative have to gay-bash or just overanalyze through presumption the flaws they "think" are in the movie.

 

[hurley711]

I didn't even notice if he did or did not have a great deal of dialogue. It felt all very organic to me. It's odd, X3 reviews that are negative pick out fairly obvious flaws, SR reviews that attempt to be negative have to gay-bash or just overanalyze through presumption the flaws they "think" are in the movie.

See that is one thing I did notice in the movie. Didn't seem like there was alot of ROuth talking. Barely any CK footage, and yes I realize they cut alot of the farm scenes out. Even as Superman, he didn't say a whole hell of alot. What he did, I thought was pretty good, but it makes me wonder if they keep it simple for him, first big film and all. Did anyone else notice the only line he says in the film to LL is "I see an old mans sick joke." Oh yeah and I forgot the "I believe you have something that belongs to me" or something like that. Just seems weird that's the only dialogue between those 2.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

I'm a proponent of the theory that Singer saw Routh couldn't act and held back his lines. Clark Kent was all but non-existent in the film and as Superman most of his dialogue consisted of throw-away lines. All Routh had to do was float around and lift things. And after seeing Routh's acting on the farm I can see why they would cut the footage lol.

 

[J.Howlett]

But, Superman isn't a character of words. He's a character of action. His actions inspire, not his words....that's what Singer was trying to convey in the film.

And if people think Routh can't act, his last scene with Jason proves that he can. He nailed the hell out of that scene. I mean, I felt that Routh was great the whole film but that scene put him in another stratosphere.

That scene was iconic and classic.

 

[bosef982]

But, Superman isn't a character of words. He's a character of action. His actions inspire, not his words....that's what Singer was trying to convey in the film.

And if people think Routh can't act, his last scene with Jason proves that he can. He nailed the hell out of that scene. I mean, I felt that Routh was great the whole film but that scene put him in another stratosphere.

That scene was iconic and classic.

There were many scenes he nailed. He nailed nearly all his scenes as Clark Kent. He nailed the father/son scene beyond belief. He also nailed the rooftop scene at the Daily Planet.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Float around and lift things? Laughably inaccurate and oversimplifying! People don't realize how much effort is needed for physical acting like that, and Routh did fine in that respect. I was actually surprised at how strong he was in the comedic aspects of the role, which really can be the most difficult.

 

[Thunder Emperor]

But, Superman isn't a character of words. He's a character of action. His actions inspire, not his words....that's what Singer was trying to convey in the film.

And if people think Routh can't act, his last scene with Jason proves that he can. He nailed the hell out of that scene. I mean, I felt that Routh was great the whole film but that scene put him in another stratosphere.

That scene was iconic and classic.

exuse me who in the dc comics say little, correction buddy, its batmannot uspermna. to inspire youknow you have to say something at some point.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Float around and lift things? Laughably inaccurate and oversimplifying! People don't realize how much effort is needed for physical acting like that, and Routh did fine in that respect. I was actually surprised at how strong he was in the comedic aspects of the role, which really can be the most difficult.

I don't think it's inaccurate at all. When you honestly look at Routh's performance that's all he did. I don't consider physical acting being as hard as emoting or line delivery. Routh did a good job in the Father/son scene but that's about it. One scene in the movie isn't going to change what I thought of his overall performance. Even the worst actors/actresses get at least one scene right lol.

 

[user123456789]

The only time I thought Routh did a bad job acting was the Clark on the Farm scenes.... he was very wooden talking to Martha.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I don't think it's inaccurate at all. When you honestly look at Routh's performance that's all he did. I don't consider physical acting being as hard as emoting or line delivery. Routh did a good job in the Father/son scene but that's about it. One scene in the movie isn't going to change what I thought of his overall performance. Even the worst actors/actresses get at least one scene right lol.

Then it's down to a matter of opinion. Physical acting IS difficult, which is why physical trainers, coaches, etc. are usually called in. Facial expression, how you hold and move your body, etc. are very important aspects to physical acting, and can sometimes certainly prove MUCH more challenging than delivering a line, not that it's more important or anything.

And the physical aspects are definitely one of the most important aspects to Superman, along with the dramatic and comedic. I think Routh did for the most part very well with all.

And Thunder Emperor, so no one but Batman is allowed very little dialogue? Whatever, dude. Once again I see you're trying to tell someone their opinion.

 

[Lightning54SC]

No, he wouldnt have casted him otherwise.... Routh is good, let the next movie make Routh Superman his own character and Less reeve and youll be suprised how he can take this character and RUNNNNNNN!!!

 

[hurley711]

The only time I thought Routh did a bad job acting was the Clark on the Farm scenes.... he was very wooden talking to Martha.

+1 on that. He wasn't very good in that scene, which makes me wonder if the rest of the farm scenes were that bad that they cut them out of the film. The whole graveyard line and walking away from MA Kent...not very good IMO. Hopefully in the next flick they will give him more to wrok with and I am guessing he will improve upon his work in this first film. I'm sure a few acting lessons in between wouldn't hurt, even established actors still take classes.

 

[hurley711]

bump

 

[Steelsheen]

The only time I thought Routh did a bad job acting was the Clark on the Farm scenes.... he was very wooden talking to Martha.

i thought he did fine. it only felt so odd because that was pretty much the only Kal-El scene in the whole film other than playing with the dog.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

I'm a proponent of the theory that Singer saw Routh couldn't act and held back his lines. Clark Kent was all but non-existent in the film and as Superman most of his dialogue consisted of throw-away lines. All Routh had to do was float around and lift things. And after seeing Routh's acting on the farm I can see why they would cut the footage lol.

Exactly.

 

[hurley711]

When I see video of him being interviewed, and see him on talk shows he seems like....well like CK. A dork. No wonder he was tending bar and only doing side acting jobs, maybe Singer got in a little over his head with this one, hopefully some acting classes will be in Brandons near future to polish up on some things before the next flick.

 

[Stringer]

He did fine in the role. I honestly cant complain about the decision to cast Routh and I hope they give him more to work with in the sequel but a lot of people are acting like he's a great actor or something. Gimme a break

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Can't wait for the sequels, he can only get better as time goes on.

 

[Steelsheen]

Can't wait for the sequels, he can only get better as time goes on.

true dat.

 

[The Guard]

I think Singer must have realized Routh had issues with emoting. Because he seemed to film AROUND him where he didn't film around other characters. And the fact that the entire pre-movie Krypton sequence was cut speaks volumes. I don't buy that the whole thing didn't fit. I think there may just have been too damn much of Routh doing nothing interesting if we go by what's in the novelization.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

FINALLY,

Guard has returned to shed his light and views on the film.

BTW, where you been buddy? Haven't seen you on aim or anything. I wanted to talk to you about the film, but you were no where to be found. Did you leave for Krypton?

 

[Eteric]

I thought he did extremely well. He seemed more mysterious, a man of few words.

When you're trying to hide your identity, saying little is a good idea.

 

[retconned]

He should have been worried. The only time when Routh didn't have Reeve to ripoff was when he was with Ma Kent in Smallville, and he was horrible. Im geussing there was more to having those other Smallville scenes cut than we were told.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I thought Routh did well with the "physical acting," but any time he had to speak or emote, he left a lot to be desired. Although he was far better than Bosworth, not that that's saying much.