Does DC have (or has had) its own Avi Arad?

[TMC1982]

Basically, a greedy, arrogant (and dare I say, somewhat eccentric), short-sighted, hack producer who insists on meddling (or micromanaging to be more exact) w/ the directors' vision like he has done w/ at least Spider-Man 3 w/ Sam Raimi and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 w/ Marc Webb. I want to say Jon Peters based on the stories involving him during the production of what would become Superman Returns. And speaking of Superman, you can also add the Salkinds and subsequently, the Cannon Group (Golan-Globus), who oversaw the Christopher Reeve era Superman movies. Obviously, who ever was involved w/ the negative creative decisions in Joel Schumacher's Batman films (in particular, the second one) should immediately be considered.

 

[Keehar]

Nah there hasn't been one main guy responsible for crap like Green Lantern, Jonah Hex, and most of the Supes movies.

 

[Micromind]

Jon Peters has been Producer in name only, even for Superman Returns.

 

[smallville fan]

I don't think they do as there wasn't really a strong constant figurehead behind films based on DC characters. DC is lucky in that regard.

 

[DA_Champion]

Jon Peters has been Producer in name only, even for Superman Returns.

He's also a producer in budget.

He banked 15 million dollars off MoS.

 

[Keehar]

So he was a producer for two of the weakest Superman movies.

 

[Gabe99]

DC needs Avi Arad.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
He created the MCU and hates Kevin Feige.

Avi Arad responds to Kevin Feige and takes credit for Marvel Studios' success
"I single handedly put together the Marvel slate," says Avi Arad.

 

[Raiden]

DC needs Avi Arad.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
He created the MCU and hates Kevin Feige.

Avi Arad responds to Kevin Feige and takes credit for Marvel Studios' success
"I single handedly put together the Marvel slate," says Avi Arad.

Avi Arad is the reason why Marvel sold so many properties to other movie studios and allowed them to keep the rights indefinitely. I will always blame him for this colossal mistake. He also spoke out against a cinematic universe, so I doubt he deserves any credit for the success of MCU.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Avi Arad is the reason why Marvel sold so many properties to other movie studios and allowed them to keep the rights indefinitely. I will always blame him for this colossal mistake. He also spoke out against a cinematic universe, so I doubt he deserves any credit for the success of MCU.

He is also the main reason Sony got into so much trouble with Spider-Man.

 

[dude stannis]

Warners absolutely need to divide DC into it's own division like Disney did with Marvel and Star Wars.

 

[Daltonio]

Avi Arad is king

 

[See Cap Run]

Warners absolutely need to divide DC into it's own division like Disney did with Marvel and Star Wars.

That wouod be great if DC actually had their own film studio and not just an offshoot of WB either. Although technically Disney didn't divide Marvel and Lucasfilm into their own seperate divisions: Marvel already had its own film studio when Disney bought them and Lucasfilm was already a production company I believe.

Then when Disney bought them, they continued to operate as their own seperate studio and production company respectively, except with even greater financial and marketing power behind them.

 

[dude stannis]

Well, it's too late for that now. But it's not too late to divide it out.

 

[See Cap Run]

Well, it's too late for that now. But it's not too late to divide it out.

That's true. It would probably be beneficial to them to do so.

 

[TheVileOne]

Avi Arad is the reason why Marvel sold so many properties to other movie studios and allowed them to keep the rights indefinitely. I will always blame him for this colossal mistake. He also spoke out against a cinematic universe, so I doubt he deserves any credit for the success of MCU.

You can say that, but you can also argue that this helped Marvel Comics survive and eventually survive bankruptcy.

You can say it's a colossal mistake, but that also brought us to where we are today. IMHO, wasn't so terrible in the long run. I think ultimately these films happened when they needed to.

Back in the 1990s, it wasn't feasible for there to be a Marvel Studios to make all these live-action properties into big event movies.

 

[Raiden]

You can say that, but you can also argue that this helped Marvel Comics survive and eventually survive bankruptcy.

You can say it's a colossal mistake, but that also brought us to where we are today. IMHO, wasn't so terrible in the long run. I think ultimately these films happened when they needed to.

Back in the 1990s, it wasn't feasible for there to be a Marvel Studios to make all these live-action properties into big event movies.

He could have at least put a clause in the contract that will let the rights revert back to Marvel after X number of years, not indefinitely. Right now Fox can keep their Marvel properties forever and there's nothing Marvel can do about it.

 

[Mandon Knight]

They haven't thank goodness....

 

[TheVileOne]

Raiden, no one was thinking about shared movie universes or even the Avengers 15 years ago. It didn't seem feasible at the time.

I mean look at the 2000 X-Men movie compared to Avengers. I'm not sure Avengers could've worked before 2010 and been as good.

I think it's silly to dwell on these things at this point, what's in the past is in the past. A lot of those deals helped Marvel survive and get out of bankruptcy and become the media powerhouse it is today. IMHO that's not such a bad thing.

If you think about it, without those deals the Marvel Cinematic Universe never happens.

And you know what, if 2003 Daredevil wasn't such a disappointment we might've never gotten 2015 Daredevil TV series which I love and am very grateful for. Sometimes the long game pays off IMHO.

2015 Fant4stic was an abomination. I didn't like the Tim Story ones either. But guess what, not even all the MCU movies are homeruns. Some are average, some are more disliked than others.

 

[dude stannis]

Yeah, even within the MCU itself getting to The Avengers was a rocky friggin road. TIH didn't even double it's budget and Iron Man 2 and Thor where not home runs either.

 

[famicommander]

David Goyer.

 

[Gabe99]

Avi Arad is king!

Marvel Studios' Origin Secrets Revealed by Mysterious Founder: History Was "Rewritten"
With 'Angry Birds' headed to theaters, producer David Maisel spills all on how he played a key role in turning Marvel Studios into a global film power as, he says, an inventor of its sequels and quasi-sequels strategy and engineer of the Disney sale.

 

[Gabe99]

Collider:
Warner Bros. Finally Sets Its Own Kevin Feige in Post-‘Batman v Superman’ Executive Shakeup
And it ain't Zack Snyder.



THR MAY 17, 2016 :
'Batman v. Superman' Fallout: Warner Bros. Shakes Up Executive Roles (Exclusive)
Jon Berg and Geoff Johns will co-run the newly created DC Films in an attempt to course-correct Warners' comic book movies.

The fallout from Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice continues to ripple through Warner Bros.

The Burbank-based studio is making changes to the way it handles its DC Entertainment-centered films, giving oversight of the feature projects to a pair of executives and creating a dedicated division for the films. Current executive vp Jon Berg and Geoff Johns, DC's chief content officer who successfully launched the comics label's foray into television, will co-run the newly created DC Films, according to multiple sources.

This move is part of a broader refinement of executive roles at Warners, which has suffered a disappointing run of movies and has vexed producers and filmmakers, some of whom complain about a murky greenlight process.

Now, instead of a broad range of movies to oversee, executives will be charged with managing “genre streams" while reporting to Warner Bros. Pictures president Greg Silverman. In many cases, these streams formalize interests and specialties for specific executives. Courtenay Valenti, for example, will now oversee all Lego projects as well as the Harry Potter line that begins with November's Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. Senior production execs Jesse Ehrman and Niija Kuykendall will focus more on comedy/family and sci-fi/action, respectively, according to sources.

Further executive changes are anticipated, including a potential hire at the senior level.

Berg was already working on BvS, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman and Justice League. He also is a conduit to Ben Affleck, having worked with the actor-filmmaker on Argo and Live by Night, the crime thriller Affleck recently wrapped as director, writer and star for the studio.

Comics writer-turned-exec Johns, meanwhile, was key in working with showrunner Greg Berlanti on the ascension of superhero shows such as Arrow, The Flash and Supergirl and is the writer behind DC's upcoming Rebirth, the publishing side's reboot of its titles that will play out over the summer months. He is not leaving DC, according to sources, but adding film to his portfolio.
Johns will still report to DC Entertainment president Diane Nelson, while Berg will report to Silverman.

With Berg and Johns, Warner Bros. is attempting to unify the disparate elements of the DC movies with a seasoned film exec and a comics veteran that together hopefully can emulate the way Marvel Studios has produced its films under the vision of president Kevin Feige. But sources also say Warners still wants to remain a filmmaker-driven studio. As part of their new jobs, Berg and Johns will become producers on the Justice League movies.

The muted reception of BvS, from a box-office and critical point of view, is the flashpoint for the changes. The studio had high hopes for the movie, which pitted its top heroes against each other. The door was opened for director Zack Snyder to be involved in shaping the look and content of the entire DC line, which is scheduled through 2020. But critics and fans ripped into the first pic and especially Snyder for perceived missteps, including its heroes' unheroic behavior and the dark tone. BvS, which cost at least $300 million to make, has grossed less than $870 million worldwide since its March 25 release. Warners has said the film will be profitable but it was hardly the home run the studio had wanted.

In stark contrast, Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Civil War is heading towards $1 billion in less than two weeks of release. The movie also pitted heroes against each other, but Marvel's lighter tone and bright colors (while tackling more serious themes) are clearly resonating with audiences. So Warners is attempting a course correction.

The shuffle, as well as Berg and Johns' new positions, come as other changes are being implemented on the DC movies. For example, Affleck was recently made executive producer on Justice League, upping his creative involvement when it comes to all things Batman and perhaps beyond.

Warner Bros. parted ways with screenwriter Seth Grahame-Smith, who was to have made his directorial debut with The Flash. In another example of post-BvS fallout, the studio didn’t feel confident in a first-time helmer and is now looking for a more seasoned filmmaker who can not only handle a large $150 million-plus movie but who can also have an authoritative stamp.
And the studio is working to smooth out the third act of Suicide Squad, its big August movie from director David Ayer that could change the perception of its DC line. The pic’s trailers have generated massive positive interest in the all-star actioner that features DC villains, and the studio wants to make sure audiences’ expectations are not only met but exceeded.

Suicide Squad recently went under major additional photography (multiple sources say it was not to add humor) to clear up the issues. Sources say it was Suicide Squad that escalated Johns’ involvement in DC movies (he was already co-writing the next Batman standalone with Affleck) and he is involved in the film’s post-production.

 

[Supernova]

God no avi single handidly ruined spiderman o ce raimi left. Sure feige learned under him but we all know what happened after the student moved on.