Sci-Fi Dune

[Fallen Angel]

Things will have to be changed, sure. That's part of the adaptation process.

Exactly! When you're adapting something you take bit's and pieces of the source material. No one one should do a page for page remake because that very rarely work's.

 

[TheVileOne]

Things will have to be changed, sure. That's part of the adaptation process.

Yeah but change it to so it's good instead of dumbing it down and making it worse.

 

[David H.]

Yeah but change it to so it's good instead of dumbing it down and making it worse.

Doubt that'll be a problem with Villeneuve.

 

[Doctor Jones]

If LOTR can be adapted, so can Dune. It just takes someone really ****ing good to do it. Roth is one of those guys. Hopefully we don't have to hear Paul repeating his mother's life lessons.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I really don't think the first Dune book is that hard to adapt. It's pretty cinematic and it's clear where the fat should be cut. Act one - Paul comes to Dune. Act two - Paul with the Freman. Act three - Paul overthrows the empire. Done.

 

[green]

If LOTR can be adapted, so can Dune. It just takes someone really ****ing good to do it. Roth is one of those guys. Hopefully we don't have to hear Paul repeating his mother's life lessons.

I hope you aren't referring to the Litany against Fear.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I think he's more refering to a box of chocolates.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I mean BOTH!

 

[Boom]

It'd be great if the studio has the stones to give this a three hour runtime. We really haven't had a sprawling epic in theaters since Lord of the Rings. That was a gamble that paid off.

 

[TheVileOne]

If LOTR can be adapted, so can Dune. It just takes someone really ****ing good to do it. Roth is one of those guys. Hopefully we don't have to hear Paul repeating his mother's life lessons.

Except Lord of the Rings is about a likable group of heroes fighting an ultimate battle against evil. Dune is a lot more ambiguous. There are a lot more shades of grey. Also, Paul Atreides isn't all that heroic. He does a lot of questionable things.

 

[FVD]

Eric Roth's name hasn't really appeared on my radar tbh, but seeing that he penned Forrest Gump and won an Oscar for that movie, has my trust that he'll conjure a quality screenplay. Still hoping we'll get more than one movie though.

 

[Octoberist]

Roth is sorta in the same league with John Logan. No matter who the director is, but their have their own tempo and pacing. A little clunky and not very tight, but well thought out and (mostly) of high quality.

Also with Roth, its almost as if he's the 'adaptation king' in Hollywood.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm really wondering what the production design for characters, costumes and planets we will get? I think that there's much that could stick to the source, much that is simply not up to too much change (Arakis is a big pile of sand... How many ways can that be filmed? The giant worms with giant mouths... Are giant worms with giant mouths... There's little chance to remake the wheel with some concepts in the film.) and much that could be radically reinterpreted.

I really think the key is deciding whether to go really out there:[YT]VIIDecdXZJY[/YT]

Or going more subdued?

 

[FVD]

I just finished both the Dune and Children of Dune Mini-Series and while they're both relatively faithful to the source material, will the movies also decide to make Alia, Leto II and Ghanima older than them actually still being very young in the books. I actually wouldn't mind if Paul, Chani and Feyd be a little older like say 17-18 now. And with Dune Messiah and CoD, should they change the periods in time just to suit their ages? Conservatives are going to be raging over this franchise, just saying lol. Ah well, if Game of Thrones can get away with it, why can't Dune?!

As for Production Design, please Legendary - work with Weta again.

 

[green]

It'll be tough to come up with better Stillsuits than in Lynch's Dune.
I wish Eiko Ishioka was still alive.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Except Lord of the Rings is about a likable group of heroes fighting an ultimate battle against evil. Dune is a lot more ambiguous. There are a lot more shades of grey. Also, Paul Atreides isn't all that heroic. He does a lot of questionable things.

It's easier to say that now since it worked out. But think at the time before it was a successful adaptation. It had its own unique set of problems that couldn't be figured out until Jackson, Boyens and Walsh cracked it. This is the same thing, it just has its own problems until the right people come along and know what makes Dune Dune.

 

[FVD]

It'll be tough to come up with better Stillsuits than in Lynch's Dune.
I wish Eiko Ishioka was still alive.

I had to look her up and see who she was. Yeah, she would have really helped bring the Houses alive. As for the Stillsuits, I'm sure they can be improved on - and I mean, really improved on.

Also, they do need to ensure that the Baron's Anti-Gravity device doesn't actually make him fly around for once. And can I say that Ian McNeice's Baron was better than Kenneth McMillan's version? I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of the next Vladimir Harkonnen wearing a fatsuit as well.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Also, they do need to ensure that the Baron's Anti-Gravity device doesn't actually make him fly around for once. And can I say that Ian McNeice's Baron was better than Kenneth McMillan's version? I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of the next Vladimir Harkonnen wearing a fatsuit as well.

Pffft, fatsuit. Danie Day Lewis would intentionally ingest poisons that will make himself bloated for this role. I demand that level of commitment for anybody cast in this movie!

 

[FVD]

Pffft, fatsuit. Danie Day Lewis would intentionally ingest poisons that will make himself bloated for this role. I demand that level of commitment for anybody cast in this movie!

Yeah, Sylvester Stallone Copland much?! And mind you, Robert DeNiro did the same in Raging Bull too, didn't he? And I wouldn't wish anybody fatten themselves up that much for a role either given the health risks involved.

 

[TheVileOne]

It's easier to say that now since it worked out. But think at the time before it was a successful adaptation. It had its own unique set of problems that couldn't be figured out until Jackson, Boyens and Walsh cracked it. This is the same thing, it just has its own problems until the right people come along and know what makes Dune Dune.

Of course it did. Lord of the Rings was a game changer in terms of tentpoles, franchise-building, adaptations, adventure and fantasy movie and so many other things. It was groundbreaking in its ambition. But when you get right down to it, it's still about a group of underdogs fighting an ultimate evil that's pure evil. It's an unambiguous evil. It's a story that can be broadly played to more audiences.

Dune is different. Not everyone is purely good, and not everyone is purely evil. Even the more noble House Atreides plays the game. Arguably, Paul does some things that are even worse than House Harkonnen.

 

[Sithborg]

See, in the first book, it is pretty clear Atreides=good, Harkonnen=evil.

 

[terry78]

Anti heroes are in now. Isn't that what the kids like?

 

[Sithborg]

Is it the 90's again? How about pouches?

 

[FVD]

Anti heroes are in now. Isn't that what the kids like?

It's pretty much like Game of Thrones in space. I just don't want to see some lame catchline on a poster like "Before Game of Thrones there was Dune." Meh!

 

[TheVileOne]

Anti heroes are in now. Isn't that what the kids like?

What antiheroes are you referring to specifically?