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They're all negative. These are from people who saw it a an event called Butt-Numb-A-thon.

Devin Farici:
GHOST RIDER 2 manages to make me look fondly back on GHOST RIDER. Unbearable.

Jordan Hoffman:
GHOST RIDER 2 makes GHOST RIDER 1 look like DARK KNIGHT.

Peter Sciretta:
Ghost Rider 2 improves over the first film, but script wass boring, post converted 3d is not great.

Scott Weinberg:
GHOST RIDER 2 played. I have nothing else to add.

George Hickman:
Ghost Rider 2: better, but not badass enough. Holds back too much and story's weak. But its target audience of teenage boys should love it.

So....yeah.
 
How did they get to see a movie 2 months before it comes out?

Is it even completely finished?
 
How did they get to see a movie 2 months before it comes out?

Is it even completely finished?

Harry Knowles' annual "Butt-Numb-A-Thon"
 
What the hell is a butt-Numb-a-something?
 
What the hell is a butt-Numb-a-something?
Butt-Numb-A-Thon (also known as BNAT) is an annual film marathon held every December since 1999 in Austin, Texas.It is hosted by Harry Knowles of the Ain't it Cool News website in celebration of his birthday. This mini-festival shows 24 hours of vintage films as well as premieres. The marathon is invite-only via an application process. Competition to get in is fierce, as 10,000 or more applicants attempt to gain one of the approximately 200 seats. This system was put into place to ensure that only die-hard film fans would be in attendance as well as to be fair, as attendance is limited to the seating capacity of the Alamo Drafthouse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butt-Numb-A-Thon
 
Hopefully it was a AICN effect or something but sadly, they're probably right judging by the lack of advertising and any real buzz :(
 
I never put much stock into to early reviews, especially when they say things like this film makes the first Ghost Rider look like The Dark Knight (that's impossible).
 
I never put much stock into to early reviews, especially when they say things like this film makes the first Ghost Rider look like The Dark Knight (that's impossible).

I usually don't do the same either but only because early reviews are almost always insanely positive and glowing. Heck, even crappy Bayformers movies and stuff like that get positive early reviews from audience. The other thing is these early reactions come from easy to please fanboys and if these people aren't pleased...

Of course losing faith in a movie so quickly because of a few online reactions from non-critics would be really dumb.
 
I am, because of the directors and how crazy it seemed i tought this was going to be really great, it seems like i was wrong
 
I don't know any of those review people so I can't make up my judgement until I see it for myself. Somebody earlier who said they had the script for this movie said that the ending was disappointing. The teaser trailer was great though so I'm pretty confused. I have only been tricked a few times by watching trailers, this will be a shock if it turns out to be as bad as they say. Also Neveldine or Taylor was in Austin for this, so I'm a bit surprised they have not posted any thoughts from people that were there.
 
I wish they would have said how the action is
 
I'm not surprised that there's not much positivity, because I never liked the script. I didn't like it when Goyer wrote it years ago, I was so glad that it didn't become the Ghost Rider movie... So they went and made it into the follow-up. The draft by other writers didn't save it. We'll see what Neveldine/Taylor have managed to do with it, but I've never expected to like it very much. But I'm a GR fan, so I'll be there opening weekend regardless.
 
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Disappointed (but not really surprised) by the neg reviews. Have to keep in mind this sequel was simply a money grab by Sony so they could hold on to the rights just a little bit longer.
Everything they did was to cut their losses on this thing...lowered the budget, used an old script but tweaked it so the only big budget monster in the film was the title character, the Feb release date, lack of early promotion etc.

Oh well...at least we know not to get our hopes up when Feb hits...lol
 
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^ I agree with BIGGUN, disappointed but not surprised in the slightest.
I had hopes for this that they would improve upon the first one and just make a better movie in general, and I'll hold my judgements until I finally see the movie for myself..but I'm not holding my breath.
 
I was looking through for the script that one poster once said they had a copy of and I found his summary of the movie. Here you go:

Europe.

A woman called Nadya (Violante Placindo) and her son, Danny (Fergus Riordan), are attacked by a team of mercenaries led by Nadya's ex-boyfriend Billy Ray Carrigan (Johnny Withworth). Nadya and Danny were being protected by the Order of Michael, the Warrior Angel, but they are all killed by Carrigan's men, forcing Nadya and Danny to escape on their own.

Knowing this, Moreau (Idris Elba), an alcoholic member of the Order of Michael, tracks down former motorcycle stuntman Johnny Blaze (Nicolas Cage). Blaze sold his soul to the Devil (Cierán Hinds) to cure his father's cancer, but the Devil - using the identity of Mephistopholes - later caused Johnny's father's death. Johnny's soul was then merged to Zarathos, a fallen angel. Every time Johnny spins a coin with an eagle in one side and a coyote on the other, the coyote side will fall up and Johnny will be transformed in the Ghost Rider, an Spirit of Vengeance that punishes sinners and sends their souls to Hell to burn for all eternity. Moreau attempts to convince Johnny to protect Nadya and Danny in exchange for the secret of how to control Zarathos, but Johnny refuses.

Meanwhile, Nadya and Danny are ambushed by Carrigan on the road. They kidnapp Danny and prepare to kill Nadya when Johnny feels them and transforms into the Ghost Rider, attacking Carrigan and his men and killing some of them before Carrigan escapes with Danny after firing a missile against the Ghost Rider. The Ghost Rider transforms back into Johnny, who goes to a hospital to treat his wounds. Nadya, who was left behind by Carrigan badly beaten, is found by the police and also taken to the hospital. She recognizes Johnny and asks for his help. He refuses at first, but then relents and takes her to see Moreau.

Nadya tells Johnny that, back when her and Carrigan were together, they sold drugs. One day, she was shot by a rival dealer and left to die by Carrigan. The Devil, using the identity of a man named Roark, then appeared to her and offered to save her if, in exchange, she had his child. She accepted and, nine months later, Danny was born. Johnny is surprised and decides to take Nadya to see Moreau. Knowing this, Roark sends coyotes to attack the monastery and kill Moreau, but Johnny is able to fend them off.

Meanwhile, Danny is taken by Carrigan, who was hired by Roark, to a place where they'll meet so Roark can pick up Danny. However, the boy, who has supernatural powers due to his bloodline, manages to cause Carrigan's SUV to crash, killing a few others of his men. Carrigan and his surviving goons then retreat to a abandoned gas station to purchase some more guns from a russian dealer in order to fight the Ghost Rider, that is coming for them.

At the monastery, Moreau tells Johnny that he is not the first one tricked by Roark into becoming the Ghost Rider. He also tells them that Roark's powers are limited on Earth, but, if he posseses the body of a hybrid on a particular day - that happens to be the day of Danny's birthday as well - he'd be able to condemn the souls of the entire Human race. Johnny and Nadya then set to rescue Danny by visiting Cono, the drug dealer that provided the rocket launchers to Carrigan. Cono tells them where Carrigan is hidden and they head there. In the process, Johnny is told by Moreau that he can control the Ghost Rider if he has faith in himself.

Johnny and Nadya arrive at Carrigan's safe house and the Ghost Rider emergers, killing all of Carrigan's and the russian's men. Finally, he leaves Carrigan to burn to death in a fire. Nadya rescues Danny, but the Ghost Rider attempts to punish her as well for having the Devil's offspring. Danny protects her mother and, in the process, he discovers that he has an evil side that is being awakened slowly, and that it is so powerful it can control Zarathos. Johnny goes back to normal and takes Nadya and Danny back to the monastery.

Meanwhile, Roark finds Carrigan and uses his powers to transform him into Blackout, a supernatural creature that can drain anything's life force with a simple touch. Blackout makes his way to the monastery, where Johnny, Nadya, Danny and Moreau are betrayed by some members of the Order, who attempt to kill Danny in order to ensure that Roark won't possess his body. The sacrifice is stopped by the Ghost Rider, whom Johnny is finally being able to control. In order to defeat it, the monks use a sacred mirror to exorcise Zarathos, releasing Johnny from it. Blackout then appears, kills the remaining monks and kidnapps Danny, leaving Nadya, Moreau and Johnny behind.

Blackout takes Danny to Roark, that convinces the boy to join him. In order to stop Roark from reaching the Eagle's Nest - a temple where he'll make the soul transfer - Johnny asks Moreau to bind his soul to Zarathos once more, despite the fact that being released from the curse is what he wanted the most. Moreau does so and the Ghost Rider, now fully controlled by Johnny, returns and makes its way to the temple alongside Moreau and Nadya.

At the Eagle's Nest, Roark begins transfering his soul to Danny's body. Moreau, Nadya and the Ghost Rider arrive, but are attacked by Blackout, that throws Moreau off a cliff and forces the Ghost Rider back to Johnny's body. Nadya attempts to make her way to the Eagle's Nest and save Danny, but Roark has completelly hipnotized the boy, blocking the door. Blackout grabs Nadya and kills her. Johnny sees this and attacks Blackout, luring him to the nearby woods.

There, Blackout grabs Johnny and starts killing him when Johnny reveals his plan: Blackout's decay aura has afected the surrouding trees, that held massive stone boulders. The trees crack and the boulders fall on Blackout, crushing him to death. Johnny gets back up and enters the Church. He's weakned by Blackout's touch and can't summon the Ghost Rider. But he urges to Danny, saying that his mother died so he could live as a human. Danny, half-possesed, registers this and jumpstarts the Ghost Rider's power.

The Ghost Rider throws the decaying body of Roark inside the Gates of Hell and uses his chain to close it. The Eagle's Nest reverts back to what it used to be: A Holy Church. On fire. The Ghost Rider takes Danny out, and, outside, they meet Moreau, who managed to stop the fall by craving his sword into the stone and climbing the mountain.

Suddenly, Danny changes. Roark manage to transfer a part of his evil essence to the boy's body. It controls Danny's power, attacking the Ghost Rider, but Moreau reminds him that holy ground exorcises Roark. With Johnny's help, Danny takes back control of his body and walks into the flaming church, ejecting Roark's seed from himself. Cleasing his spirit.

Johnny, Danny and Moreau bury Nadya. Johnny takes Moreau and Danny back to the monastery, where Danny is accepted among the monks and starts his training to learn how to control his powers. Johnny says that Rourke is not gone. He can never be gone. But now he's weak. And when he tries to strike again, Johnny will be there to stop him. Not only him, but also the Spirit of Vengeance within. The Ghost Rider.

Before riding off into the sunset, Johnny gives Danny his coin. He doesn't need it anymore. Danny decides to give it a spin as he watches Johnny leave.

It lands on eagle.

THE END.
 
I wanted it to be good but if it must suck at least Marvel could get back the rights.
 
I've always thought this would be a movie that critics don't like, like most of Neveldine and Taylor's movies. All i'm seeing this for is some bad ass GR action. That has to be delivered.
 
If there's one person whose opinion I'll never give two craps about, it's Devin Faraci.:up:
 
If there's one person whose opinion I'll never give two craps about, it's Devin Faraci.:up:

Amen! IMO, he's an ass-hat. I'm more interested with what Drew McWeeny has to say.
 
Devin Farici:

Quote:GHOST RIDER 2 manages to make me look fondly back on GHOST RIDER. Unbearable.

Our tastes in movies could hardly be further apart.

Jordan Hoffman:

Quote:GHOST RIDER 2 makes GHOST RIDER 1 look like DARK KNIGHT.

Since I hated that P.O.S. this criticism sort of backfires into an endorsement of the film.

Peter Sciretta:

Quote:Ghost Rider 2 improves over the first film, but script wass boring, post converted 3d is not great.

Well I'd be real suprised if they had actually managed to make a film that was worse than the first movie. So no suprise here. And I know never to waste time/$ on 3-D.

Scott Weinberg:

Quote:GHOST RIDER 2 played. I have nothing else to add.

I know one critic who's not even bothering to do their damn job.

George Hickman:

Quote:Ghost Rider 2: better, but not badass enough. Holds back too much and story's weak. But its target audience of teenage boys should love it.
About what I expected. So I'll probably catch a matinee.
 

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