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Ironheart Episode 4-6, "Bad Magic", "Karma's a Glitch", & "The Past is the Past" (SPOILERS)

Cree Summer. She's either the token black chick in 90's comedies or cartoons or she plays a homewrecker like in Living Single.
Aside from A Different World the only thing more than a one and out episodes I remember her from in live action was a reoccurring role on the last few episodes of the Cicely Tyson and Mellissa Gilbert drama, Sweet Justice
 
Ironheart is ultimately much more enjoyable than what the internet would make it out to be, but it's also a mixed bag. Riri isn't the most likable protagonist, this season almost came across as a villain origin story. She's self-serving and kind of narcissistic, and she seems ready to do just about anything to further her goals. The show is low on any actual superheroics, her tech is generally used just for crime and sometimes to keep her loved ones safe. One of the key moments of the season is her leaving someone to die because they're an obstacle. That's villain ****, but it's all perfectly tied together with the ending. Obviously many of her choices are representative of systematic issues. She's as much a genius as Tony Stark was, but she doesn't have the kind of budget and means available as he did, and that's a key factor that sets her on this desperate anti-hero path, but then again, that's true for many villainous characters. Riri is complicated, and I'm really interested to see where her story leads her next.

The show has a bit of a villain problem. Anthony Ramos is miscast, in my opinion. I've liked him in many things, but here he's just spread thin with this character that's supposed to be menacing at times and sometimes pathetic, and it doesn't really lead anywhere, particularly with the limp post-credit scene. Unless there's a season 2, this is probably going to be another example of Marvel hinting at something that might never come to fruition. Ramos doesn't sell the character, but perhaps that's partially by design to make Sacha Baron Cohen's magnificent Mephisto even more effective. That doesn't change the fact that we're stuck with The Hood for five episodes. I wish they had even styled Ramos better, that damn haircut would suck all charisma out of anyone. Alden Ehrenreich's semi-villainous turn didn't really work for me either. I don't know if it's dodgy casting or a writing issue, but I can't help but feel that these two could've been handled so much better.

Natalie and the show's exploration of AI is my favorite part of Ironheart. It's interesting that when Riri is making a deal with the devil, it doesn't seem to occur to her that she could ask for the actual human being's resurrection instead of the AI tool that's based on her recollection of her late best friend. Chatbots are a hot topic right now, even more so than when the show was written and shot, and I couldn't stop thinking about the stories of lonely and depressed people using these AI tools for companionship and comfort and it usually ending badly. I found the scenes of N.A.T.A.L.I.E. researching and imitating clips of the real Natalie quite chilling. She's almost presented as one of those "I saved my consciousness to an algorithm" sci-fi scenarios, but the show points out that she lacks any kind of inner world of the sort and is instead based on how Riri remembers Natalie. It's all very interesting, but ultimately it's for the better that the show brings the real Natalie back instead. Lyric Ross is excellent in the role, and she brings a lot of likability and fun to the show, especially compared to the more self-serious Riri.

Shea Couleé is a welcome addition to the show, particularly since Disney is actively neutering this kind of representation. They're probably the most likable part of The Hood's gang. Overall the gang wasn't developed enough, and I would've rather seen them cultivating a closer relationship with Riri instead of immediately trying to murder her when instructed to do so. Another favorite of mine was Cree Summer as Madeline Stanton. She was shown a little bit in episode 1, and I immediately knew this would be one of my favorite characters, and thank goodness she was brought back later with a bit more to do and cool magical powers to boot.

Ironheart comes with a cool (and seemingly expensive) soundtrack, a good cast of supporting characters, and a nice mixture of science and magic that I'd love to see developed further. It made me think of an Epica lyric, "Science, spirituality. Will have to meet along the way. And we need new drifts, another view. Expand our grip on the cryptic soul." I'd happily watch a season 2, especially if we get more of that. We could also sneak in some Agatha cameos, peut-être?

Overall, I'd give the show a healthy 3/5. This turned into an essay, but Ironheart ended up fascinating me more than most of these D+ shows do, and that's really cool.
I agree with all of this

Thought the supporting players were the best characters, especially Natalie, Xavier, Zeke, John, Slug, and the witchy women

It had a lot of style to it and felt like Chicago was well presented, although not as much as New York in Daredevil. The music choices were great, it was colorful, the CGI looked very good, and the action scenes were all pretty fun. Loved the final battle with Riri's Illusion Casting/Hologram moment (cuz what's really the difference between those two things in the MCU anyway) and the Magic/Tech angle worked really well.

Mephisto also had a great introduction and felt appropriately menacing. My girl at first was like "Really? Borat is the Devil?" but by the end she was like "Ok, maybe I was wrong, he's a really good actor!"

As for my Cons, it was sadly, the lead characters. Riri is a stubborn, thoughtless, non-communicative idiot. She's gotten a few people in the MCU killed now, and created a villain out of Stane with her dumb plan to get a piece of the hood. Don't compare yourself to Stark girl, he'd have solved that s**t in a single episode, even without his wealth. The eyerolling and "I'm fine"s were driving me mad, I wanted to jump through the screen and shake the s*** out of her. And that she started the show by making a deal with a shady villain and ended the show making a deal with the literal devil is not a good look. She didn't learn a damn thing.

And The Hood, I think Ramos made him likeable, but not nearly menacing enough. The only time he came off scary was in the final battle going all demon mode. I get that it would seem odd for Riri to follow him initially if he came off as a villain right away, but there were better ways to do it. They name dropped Sopranos and I couldn't help but feel like a Tony Soprano-esque approach would've been better. He was the lead, and likeable enough, but was absolutely someone you understood was not a good person and would kill you without a second thought if you crossed him.

All in all I liked it, and hope it gets a second season, but Riri's got to get her s*** together and grow as a person in the next season. She was kind of annoying in Wakanda Forever, and felt like she regressed even more here. Learn from Stark, and from Shuri, and become a smarter more thoughtful person.
 
I'm also mixed on the show primarily due to me not being terribly invested in a lot of the supporting characters. However Riri, Parker, and Zeke, overall maintained my interest so at least there's that. I actually thought the show was well made all things considered, and I appreciated the effort to make it a character based show despite it feeling slow quite a number of times.

As for the Mephisto drop, now that was real nice and not at all in a show where I expected him to appear 2 to 3 weeks ago. Sacha was pretty great in the role and LOVED that we saw his true form in the reflection of the spoon. Really curious where this leaves Riri, and what was the price to this. I think Dominique is really good, and I hope this means she gets to participate more in the MCU films.

Speaking of Mephisto, now that he's introduced, is there a real possibility he appears in the next Spider-man film? (I frankly hope not).
 
I agree with all of this

Thought the supporting players were the best characters, especially Natalie, Xavier, Zeke, John, Slug, and the witchy women

It had a lot of style to it and felt like Chicago was well presented, although not as much as New York in Daredevil. The music choices were great, it was colorful, the CGI looked very good, and the action scenes were all pretty fun. Loved the final battle with Riri's Illusion Casting/Hologram moment (cuz what's really the difference between those two things in the MCU anyway) and the Magic/Tech angle worked really well.

Mephisto also had a great introduction and felt appropriately menacing. My girl at first was like "Really? Borat is the Devil?" but by the end she was like "Ok, maybe I was wrong, he's a really good actor!"

As for my Cons, it was sadly, the lead characters. Riri is a stubborn, thoughtless, non-communicative idiot. She's gotten a few people in the MCU killed now, and created a villain out of Stane with her dumb plan to get a piece of the hood. Don't compare yourself to Stark girl, he'd have solved that s**t in a single episode, even without his wealth. The eyerolling and "I'm fine"s were driving me mad, I wanted to jump through the screen and shake the s*** out of her. And that she started the show by making a deal with a shady villain and ended the show making a deal with the literal devil is not a good look. She didn't learn a damn thing.

And The Hood, I think Ramos made him likeable, but not nearly menacing enough. The only time he came off scary was in the final battle going all demon mode. I get that it would seem odd for Riri to follow him initially if he came off as a villain right away, but there were better ways to do it. They name dropped Sopranos and I couldn't help but feel like a Tony Soprano-esque approach would've been better. He was the lead, and likeable enough, but was absolutely someone you understood was not a good person and would kill you without a second thought if you crossed him.

All in all I liked it, and hope it gets a second season, but Riri's got to get her s*** together and grow as a person in the next season. She was kind of annoying in Wakanda Forever, and felt like she regressed even more here. Learn from Stark, and from Shuri, and become a smarter more thoughtful person.

You gotta give Riri some grace though man and realize that she's still a young twentysomething who is still figuring things out.

And with certain characters it's a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation because people would complain if Riri was too perfect or if everything worked out for her. She's a layered protagonist who is imperfect, who is brilliant but still learning, she's reactive to certain situations because again she's still learning the hang of this superhero gig.
 
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You gotta give Riri some grace though man and realize that she's still a young twentysomething who is still figuring things out.

And with certain characters it's a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation because people would complain if Riri was too perfect or if everything worked out for her. She's a layered protagonist who is imperfect, who is brilliant but still learning, she's reactive to certain situations because again she's still learning the hang of this superhero gig.
But see that's the thing, they didn't show us that she's learning
In episode 5 it seemed like she finally learned to accept help and take some responsibility for her actions
but then episode 6 it was "Yeah f*** it, let's make a deal with this shady-ass demon, even though I just saw what it did to the Hood"

And maybe its a personal thing, but anytime a character on a show just refuses to talk to anyone else about what's going on, when it would greatly help their situation, it just frustrates the hell outta me (probably because I do that too, and am really frustrated at myself lol)
 
I think the key was her asking that only she would take the consequences of the deal. Which does feel in line with Riri thinking she can handle it as long as others aren't hurt.
 
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I just finished and enjoyed it. Its definitely one of the better MCU tv shows. I wonder where they will go next with her character as this cant be the end. Though it seemingly getting a poor receptioin, not sure if we will get a season 2
 
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originally thought they were fast-tracking Ironheart for Young Avengers...
but, with that ending seems more like set up to Midnight Sons or Dark Avengers
 
Liked this show. Not sure I love the ending cause it feels like it undermines Riri's arc to me and like she doesn't learn anything in the end, but otherwise this show was actually pretty good. Obviously I want to see what the future has in store for Senor Borat and where we may see him next.
I agree with this 100%

She doesn't have to come around completely as a character arc, but it really felt like she ended up where she began, but in an even more complicated situation.

But the show was enjoyable throughout.
 

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