So, at the very least this should get them to finally drop Yates, right? If I'm being honest, I haven't actually really loved any of the films after Azkaban, Yates was better than Newell (well, until CoG), but overall I've found his direction bland compared to Columbus and Cuaran.
So, at the very least this should get them to finally drop Yates, right? If I'm being honest, I haven't actually really loved any of the films after Azkaban, Yates was better than Newell (well, until CoG), but overall I've found his direction bland compared to Columbus and Cuaran.
By all accounts, it seems the goodwill he earned with the suits was the result of keeping the train on the rails relatively free of any drama or the financial bloat Franchise IPs have become synonymous with. I agree it's time to move on from Yates, but that's more of a symptom that Potterverse, much like Star Wars with Lucas after Ep III and JJ with Ep IX, just needs some new perspective. Easier said than done, obviously with Rowling.
Harry's son and Voldemorts daughter. Its a play script by another writer adapted from a treatment by Rowling. Rowling never published her treatment in novel form so we dont really know how much of the story was from her or the other writer. The play covers multiple years so if they ever do turn it into film they will likely make it more than one film and expand it.
Yates isn't bad but he is the definition of a journeyman director who doesn't have his own style.
I've been thinking of other directors who would be good. Aside from JA Bayona, Andy Muschietti who directed the IT films and The Flash would be another possible director or perhaps a female director like Jennifer Kent or Emerald Fennell.
Shawn Levy would probably be a safe bet for a Wizarding World film. I think at the very least he'd make the magic and world fun and colorful again.
If they are sticking with 5 films they need to just get to the climax. Make films 4 and 5 like one 4 hour film split in 2 parts. Set it during WW2 and include lot of action and adventure and fun. Film them together and release them 6 months or 1 year apart.
He'd probably be closest to Chris Columbus since most of his films fit that same sort of vibe anyway and to be honest, it might be refreshing to see after a decade and a half of Yates.
It's still crazy to me that this series wanted to be 5 films, with the last one taking place in 1945. 3 movies in and they still haven't even gotten passed 1930.
God, what a great example of not knowing what you want to do.
Shawn Levy would probably be a safe bet for a Wizarding World film. I think at the very least he'd make the magic and world fun and colorful again.
If they are sticking with 5 films they need to just get to the climax. Make films 4 and 5 like one 4 hour film split in 2 parts. Set it during WW2 and include lot of action and adventure and fun. Film them together and release them 6 months or 1 year apart.
How come I haven't read anyone review here? All I get is the usual hate, but no one write something about the film. Was it ALL bad? Didn't you like some part of it?
I do know that this thread have been toxic with hate for more than an year, but not a single positive thing to say? All my friends who saw it, agreed that it was definite improvement over the last one, and that it has some amazing action sequences. Also great price for Mikkelsen and Law for their performances. Also the visuals I heard are top level, and the score is brilliant. How come not a single one of you mentions those thing, but only write here with constant hate. hate, hate, hate and hate. You hated this movie even before it came out.
I am sad that this is performing so bad at the BO, as I want more films in this world. I want more Wizarding World! MORE, PLEASE!
PS: I do hate the Cursed Child play (have it on book), as I thought it was one huge (not very good) fan fiction. IF they are to make it to film, they need to adapted the crap out of it. Change A LOT.
Anything remotely passable about the movie is immensely dwarfed by all it does wrong to the point it's barely worth acknowledging. It's a movie just as bafflingly inept as the last one. Honestly, perhaps even more than the last one. The script is worse, it's another movie where nothing happens and is an incredibly poor attempt at a political thriller. The only potential positive is some of the actors do their best, but they're doing their best with an inert screenplay while being puppeted around bland sets, dull action scenes, and the colourless, joyless aesthetic that has come to define Yates' work. It's bad. It's really, really bad. If you're going to see a bad movie, watch Morbius. Morbius is funny at times. Morbius has Matt Smith doing whatever it is he's doing. This is ****ing terrible. Too immature in its storytelling for the adult audience it wishes to court, too joyless for children. The worst of both worlds.
And that's all without even touching on the fact Rowling is a monster. That's just the movie. It's not good divorced from all of that.
How come I haven't read anyone review here? All I get is the usual hate, but no one write something about the film. Was it ALL bad? Didn't you like some part of it?
I do know that this thread have been toxic with hate for more than an year, but not a single positive thing to say? All my friends who saw it, agreed that it was definite improvement over the last one, and that it has some amazing action sequences. Also great price for Mikkelsen and Law for their performances. Also the visuals I heard are top level, and the score is brilliant. How come not a single one of you mentions those thing, but only write here with constant hate. hate, hate, hate and hate. You hated this movie even before it came out.
I am sad that this is performing so bad at the BO, as I want more films in this world. I want more Wizarding World! MORE, PLEASE!
PS: I do hate the Cursed Child play (have it on book), as I thought it was one huge (not very good) fan fiction. IF they are to make it to film, they need to adapted the crap out of it. Change A LOT.
For someone with so much disdain for constant hate, I am confused why you have supported and defended the constant source of bigoted hatred that is Joanne Rowling.
Any who, I watched it and thought it was terrible. The music? Blah. The action? Pointless and hard to follow, lacking any real sense of what is occurring or the dynamism of good action from the last decade of cinema. It's also an overtly ugly film, missing color and vibrancy. It just looks and feels like a dull old painting, which is appropriate all things considered.
Mads was fine with a very thin character. Same for Law. The plot is terrible, having the same issues as the last film. It's completely inert, with 20 minutes worth of material, stretched over a 2:15 film. That the main plot actually involves "being confusing" will never, ever get old. The film still has way too many people in it, with Newt and Jacob still being the only actual characters, and not necessarily the most endearing ones. They certainly aren't fleshed out.
Also it was absolutely hilarious that the writers didn't seem to understand their own story.
Everyone and their uncle knows the deer should've bowed to Jacob.
The constant attempts at cheap nostalgia with every trip to Hogwarts throwing on the much better music from Williams were laughable in their obviousness.
I'm sure you are being honest about your friends reactions. But I honestly see no reason to be positive about any aspect of this film. It's terrible up and down like the last one. The only half decent film in this series was the first, and that was down to the plot and characters they abandoned long ago. Considering the reviews, BO, and WOM being as bad as it is, I think I'm definitely in the majority on this one. But alas, even before I knew she was a bigot, I said Joanne wasn't a script writer. I do think it's impressive she's gotten worse.
I didn't know Rowling murdered children!!!...I mean, for me that's a monster. Not a person with her own opinion. She say she does not consider Trans women are real women: a monster. This is just...I still can't get what the world has became. One disliked opinion and you are a monster. haha.
I'm out of this thread, just can't get the hate anymore. The world has gone crazy.
A bad opinion is thinking The Batman bombed at the box office. Dehumanizing behavior is monstrous, even with no power. When you do it with her intent and platform, to rip rights away from other human beings for simply existing, it's so much worse.
I didn't know Rowling murdered children!!!...I mean, for me that's a monster. Not a person with her own opinion. She say she does not consider Trans women are real women: a monster. This is just...I still can't get what the world has became. One disliked opinion and you are a monster. haha.
I'm out of this thread, just can't get the hate anymore. The world has gone crazy.
Looks to me like you're out of this forum for the time being. You don't get to whitewash transphobia as just an opinion, especially as this is not your first warning on the subject. Do better or don't plan on sticking around.
I think it is also important to point out, the more that she opens her mouth, the more we can't ignore the problematic stuff that she puts into her world. Ignore the stupid ****ting their pants bit. Just look at the game. The bad guys are goblin rebels, who want equality. Ignore the Elders of Zion bull**** they seem to be pulling from, given the conflicts at the time the British Empire was involved in, a tad bit on the nose for a similar conflict to be happening, and that the rebels are the bad guys.
Rowling created this world. But, at some point, you have to acknowledge the problems she brings and continues to bring to this world.
I love Dune. I love Frank Herbert's novels. But jesus ****ing christ, you have to make changes from his problematic beliefs.
I think it is also important to point out, the more that she opens her mouth, the more we can't ignore the problematic stuff that she puts into her world. Ignore the stupid ****ting their pants bit. Just look at the game. The bad guys are goblin rebels, who want equality. Ignore the Elders of Zion bull**** they seem to be pulling from, given the conflicts at the time the British Empire was involved in, a tad bit on the nose for a similar conflict to be happening, and that the rebels are the bad guys.
Rowling created this world. But, at some point, you have to acknowledge the problems she brings and continues to bring to this world.
I love Dune. I love Frank Herbert's novels. But jesus ****ing christ, you have to make changes from his problematic beliefs.
Yeesh, I didn't even realize that was the plot of the upcoming game. Knowing how much power she has over this franchise... it's really not hard to read between the lines there.
The first one had a fun premise of a zoologist accidentally letting loose a bunch of magical creatures in the muggle world.
I'm really not sure why that was chosen as the vehicle for which you'd then lead into two movies of boring minute details about how Grindlewald tried to gain power. It literally comes out of nowhere.
Its like I've said before: its a nonsense combination because they had no choice, or at least felt they didn't. They needed to adapt an actual book, which meant Wizard Pokemon. . . but they also felt that no one would come to see a Harry Potter spinoff unless it actually involved characters they cared about, which in this era basically meant Dumbledore.
Its just generally an ill-conceived, ill-fated endeavor. Not everything is meant to have a giant sprawling franchise built around it, and even things which can, often require you to accept that you might need to go *smaller* at least sometimes. And "smaller" is not a word WB wanted to hear, because they desperately want Fantastic Beasts to be their new tentpole megafranchise.
Its like I've said before: its a nonsense combination because they had no choice, or at least felt they didn't. They needed to adapt an actual book, which meant Wizard Pokemon. . . but they also felt that no one would come to see a Harry Potter spinoff unless it actually involved characters they cared about, which in this era basically meant Dumbledore.
Its just generally an ill-conceived, ill-fated endeavor. Not everything is meant to have a giant sprawling franchise built around it, and even things which can, often require you to accept that you might need to go *smaller* at least sometimes. And "smaller" is not a word WB wanted to hear, because they desperately want Fantastic Beasts to be their new tentpole megafranchise.
Which I think the first film proved was wrong. That made the biggest splash, and it had no one from the original flicks, outside of one character, who wasn't identified until the very end and was only a bit part player in in the HP series.
What people want out of Potter is fun, adventure, magic. The dramatic, more dark chapters are payoff to that. They had a chance with a Fantastic Beasts series. They ruined it by moving away from that and into mundane politics.
Yeesh, I didn't even realize that was the plot of the upcoming game. Knowing how much power she has over this franchise... it's really not hard to read between the lines there.
I just finally got to seeing this and it was an uninspired, generic and rushed mess.
Cheap sets and dodgy green screens, barely any Dumbledore "secrets" and an incredibly anti-climactic final act. Mads Mikkelsen brought his usual charm and calmness, but he acted in no way similar to Depp's Grindelwald (that had that slight madness), which really breaks the continuity between the 2nd and this film.
The best thing about it was Jude Law's Dumbledore and what a way to waste him for the second time in a row. Tina was nowhere to be seen, but besides maybe 2 mins total near the end, Queenie's arc took a 180 turn and made no sense and whatever they had set up with Credence, was now totally wasted and forgotten. Hicks had a weird one-note intonation in every single sentence that got annoying quite quickly.
Pretty much done with this franchise. They've successfully eradicated even the slightest bit of magic and originality that the first and (partially) second film had. It was barely above 2 hours in length, yet it felt like 4.
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