Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore

[lime]

Any ideas on when we can get official pic of Mikkelsen as Grindewalt?

 

[Sithborg]

My opinion is that JKR being transphobic like this is absolutely horrible and makes her look like an absolute bigot. You can't put an anti-bigotry plot point in your books and then turn around and act like a bigot towards trans people. I don't care how rich and famous you are.

The only solace I can take is that none of this crap is in the HP books and films. Hence why I say people are allowed still to like them; they just need to be made aware of how awful the creator is being and that what she's saying about trans people is wrong. HOWEVER, I'm making this known: if Rowlling tries to sneak this crap into Fantastic Beasts 3-5 or elsewhere, then I'm disowning that crap and not buying/seeing any of that. **** that noise.

There are things in her Galbraith novels that pushes for reevaluation of the Harry Potter books.

 

[TheVileOne]

Why are these movies even getting made? The last one bombed.

 

[Sithborg]

Because WB lacks franchises, and this one is subject to the whims of woman up her own ass.

 

[Lily Adler]

They could have not tied these films to Fantastic Beasts and just based each film under a different name.

 

[Drizzle]

Why are these movies even getting made? The last one bombed.

Because WB lacks franchises, and this one is subject to the whims of woman up her own ass.

The Harry Potter series basically kept WB afloat for a decade so it's easy to see why they're so attached to the Wizarding World. The golden goose for them would be a Cursed Child film (or two) with Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson and Rupert Grint returning. You're looking at a minimum $1.5 billion box office gross if that happens. But since they've distanced themselves from Rowling there are definitely quite a few obstacles in the way before that becomes a reality.

 

[Detective Conan]

Fantastic Beast 3 Details.

 

[Ninjablade]

So, another boring film where the villain stands around delivering monologues while the heroes just talk to one another in different rooms about how the villain needs to be stopped. How fun.

Also, sidelining Waterson yet again, sucks. Tina's one of the better characters.

 

[Snow Queen]

Sounds thrilling. Leaving aside Rowling as a disaster person, sounds like they were completely justified in making this five movies.

 

[Sithborg]

Going full Prequel Trilogy, I see.

Will taxation of trade routes come up?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Going full Prequel Trilogy, I see.

Will taxation of trade routes come up?

How dare you! The PT still had cool stuff. Like starship battles, funny droids, lightsaber fights and Sheev eating all the scenery!

What Fantastic Beasts got?

 

[DarkKnight88]

Yeah, for all their faults, the prequel trilogy did create all this new iconography now in the public consciousness. Don’t know if these Fantastic Beasts movies have the way that did.

 

[Closerframe]

Wow, that sounds incredibly boring and it’s disappointing we’re just getting yet another European country (and the Himalayas) despite Rowling suggesting that we’d see the Wizardry World on a global scale. Also, at this point, why is Newt such an important figure in all of this? He’s essentially a zoologist, at least Harry was a horocrux so there was some justification why Dumbledore needed him.

Comparing this to the PT is an insult to Star Wars. At least that was entertaining despite the overuse of green/blue screens and heavy handed exposition on trade disputes. Fantastic Beasts feels more like The Hobbit trilogy.

 

[Drizzle]

A three hour Star Wars movie consisting of nothing but the Senate debating about taxation of trade routes would probably be more entertaining than whatever Fantastic Beasts 3 will more than likely end up being.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The PT was super boring. Sorry guys, it was. What few action scenes it had all largely looked like CG garbage.

But about this....doubling down on the last one's bad aspects (aka the entire movie) I see.

 

[Drizzle]

Comparing this to the PT is an insult to Star Wars. At least that was entertaining despite the overuse of green/blue screens and heavy handed exposition on trade disputes. Fantastic Beasts feels more like The Hobbit trilogy.

Comparing it to the Hobbit trilogy is unfair too. Those movies were far from perfect and didn't need to be stretched out to a trilogy, but at least stuff actually happened in them and there were plenty of actors scattered throughout who made them enjoyable to watch (Martin Freeman, Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Benedict Cumberbatch to name a few). Everyone in Crimes of Grindelwald looked like they were on autopilot except for Dan Fogler, who honestly just looks like he's happy to be in a franchise at all since Josh Gad usurped his career as the chubby sidekick.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The PT was super boring. Sorry guys, it was. What few action scenes it had all largely looked like CG garbage.

But about this....doubling down on the last one's bad aspects (aka the entire movie) I see.

The PT continues to be a lot of fun for me, and happens to contain some of my favorite Star Wars.



But let's forget opinion for a moment. Fantastic Beasts will never have a foothold culturally the way the PT does and the PT most certainly has one. There will be no clamor to see these characters again. Actual, real life people still want to see the PT era. Anyone actually think there is going to be a huge fan campaign to see the Seige of a Random Wizarding School of that era, in 15 years? I doubt it. The biggest movement you can find behind Fantastic Beasts is a bunch of sexist jerks and obsessed fans trying to ignore their own guy's confession of abuse, mutual or otherwise.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The PT continues to be a lot of fun for me, and happens to contain some of my favorite Star Wars.



But let's forget opinion for a moment. Fantastic Beasts will never have a foothold culturally the way the PT does and the PT most certainly has one. There will be no clamor to see these characters again. Actual, real life people still want to see the PT era. Anyone actually think there is going to be a huge fan campaign to see the Seige of a Random Wizarding School of that era, in 15 years? I doubt it. The biggest movement you can find behind Fantastic Beasts is a bunch of sexist jerks and obsessed fans trying to ignore their our guys confession of abuse, mutual or otherwise.

We can agree to disagree on the PT's quality. Those films are unwatchable for me. Some of the ugliest and most boring cinema ever. I can agree the characters have nostalgia value, though I attribute this more to other media where the characters are not boring as dirt in frames full of ugly and super fake CG crap.

The Fantastic Beast series I also agree won't be relevant basically ever pop culturally.

 

[Snow Queen]

At the very least, the prequels have some solid design work going for them. I can't tell you what this series has. I think I remember their kill room being super white so that was different, and they used the abandoned New York subway stations for a scene, but past that... dark hallways and terrible character design for Johnny Depp? I guess there's the little mole guy but I'm drawing a blank beyond that. Leaving aside the everything around Rowling, this series just feels... devoid of anything of note.

 

[Drizzle]

Young Dumbledore still can't hold a candle to Young Obi-Wan.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Look, I'd pay to see The Adventures of Young Obi-Wan and Dumbledore

 

[DarthSkywalker]

At the very least, the prequels have some solid design work going for them. I can't tell you what this series has. I think I remember their kill room being super white so that was different, and they used the abandoned New York subway stations for a scene, but past that... dark hallways and terrible character design for Johnny Depp? I guess there's the little mole guy but I'm drawing a blank beyond that. Leaving aside the everything around Rowling, this series just feels... devoid of anything of note.

How dare you forget the introduction of bobble head people into the Harry Potter canon?

Spoiler

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

The prequels have their flaws and strenghs.

A lot of awesome stuff.



So many beautiful shots, music, moments and bold ideas, without trying to troll the audience, this is a honest job of a dreamer that is Lucas and I respect him for it and I love the prequels.

The guy is inspiring, I don't know if I could take so much criticism and still move forward and do my own thing.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Yep, hate them or love them, whether it was perfected in its various spinoffs later on or not, the prequels themselves introduced so many new elements that are now in the mainstream. At the very least, George Lucas didn't just rely on nostalgia for that and they caught on.

Star Wars: 15 Iconic Elements You Forgot Came From The Prequels

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yep, hate them or love them, whether it was perfected in its various spinoffs later on or not, the prequels themselves introduced so many new elements that are now in the mainstream. At the very least, George Lucas didn't just rely on nostalgia for that and they caught on.

Star Wars: 15 Iconic Elements You Forgot Came From The Prequels

A screenrant link!