Father of Cardinals pitcher suing restaurant for not cutting off his alcohol

[terry78]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-hancock-lawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns

I know the man is upset over his son, but sometimes you just have to realize that some of your favorite people act stupid, and they pay for it.

 

[Fran]

That is ******ed.

I'm at a loss of words.

 

[kytrigger]

Yep, he's suing the restaurant, and manager, the tow truck for being too inconspicuous to notice (even though his flashing lights were on), and the guy who's car broke down for not getting it off the road quick enough.

I'm surprised he isn't suing the Cardinals too since he seems to be suing everyone else.

 

[Kritish]

This was his son’s own damn fault, not the restaurant.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Not sure if there are any bartenders here or not, but you're liable for anything that happens to the person after they leave your establishment. It is definitely stupid but the bartender and or waiter/tress is legally responsible for any occurrences due to the alcohol served. Of course the man could have put on his ****ing seat belt, hung up the cellphone, put down his joint, and slowed the hell down.

 

[JStorm]

I looked at this thread through hazy eyes and saw "Father Cardinal Pitcher.

And I thought.... "great, another Catholic did something stupid."

But the fact is, this father needs to cut the cord. Your boy's all grown up, padre.. let him go.

 

[Ben Urich]

Authorities said the 29-year pitcher had a blood content of nearly twice the legal limit for alcohol in his system when he crashed into the back of the tow truck. He was also speeding, using a cell phone and wasn't wearing a seat belt, Police Chief Joe Mokwa said after the accident. Marijuana also was found in the SUV

I guess that's the bartender's fault too.

It's sad that his son died, but the father needs to just accept that his son was reckless and tragedy struck.

 

[kytrigger]

Not sure if there are any bartenders here or not, but you're liable for anything that happens to the person after they leave your establishment. It is definitely stupid but the bartender and or waiter/tress is legally responsible for any occurrences due to the alcohol served. Of course the man could have put on his ****ing seat belt, hung up the cellphone, put down his joint, and slowed the hell down.

I think the fact that they tried to get him a cab and he refused it absolves them from anything. I mean they can't legally force him into a cab.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I think the dad needs to increase the number of lawsuits, he should also include the car manufacturer for making a car that will go that fast and won't automatically put on your seat belt. Also, the person he called, she should be sued too. What about the person the sold him the pot?

 

[jaguarr]

He should also sue his dead son for driving drunk and killing his son.

jag

 

[Mr. Credible]

Not sure if there are any bartenders here or not, but you're liable for anything that happens to the person after they leave your establishment. It is definitely stupid but the bartender and or waiter/tress is legally responsible for any occurrences due to the alcohol served. Of course the man could have put on his ****ing seat belt, hung up the cellphone, put down his joint, and slowed the hell down.

sorry, but i don't believe that for a second.

i'm not calling you a liar, but you're saying that i could get drunk, drive home, wreck, and it's the waitress/bartender's fault? please. no. what if i told the waitress i was meeting a taxi, and then just drove off instead? there's no way that's true.

 

[KevanG]

Crazy Americans... (No offense to the sane americans, I know there's too few out there as it it ).

But seriously If they tried to call him a cab, the guy was plastered and got himself into an accident, then it's his own damn fault.

 

[Kyalesyin]

He should also sue his dead son for driving drunk and killing his son.

jag

This post ftw

 

[Showtime]

I think sometimes people need to vent when something tragic like this happens, and he is just misguided at this point. It's a bad decision, but it's understandable that he is trying to point his anger towards something.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

sorry, but i don't believe that for a second.

i'm not calling you a liar, but you're saying that i could get drunk, drive home, wreck, and it's the waitress/bartender's fault? please. no. what if i told the waitress i was meeting a taxi, and then just drove off instead? there's no way that's true.

Believe it or not, but I used to be a bartender. There's a reason they make you get a liscense. You're forced to sit through a bull**** class where they explain to you all the things you're liable for. If you continue to serve someone when you know they are intoxicated, if something happens due to that fact, yes, you can be charged with some very severe crimes (such as being charged with DWI yourself, manslaughter, etc). Now, I didn't read the part about them trying to call the guy a taxi, nor did I say I don't agree with you that it's lame. That certainly doesn't change the FACT that it can legally be pursued.

 

[Erzengel]

Believe it or not, but I used to be a bartender. There's a reason they make you get a liscense. You're forced to sit through a bull**** class where they explain to you all the things you're liable for. If you continue to serve someone when you know they are intoxicated, if something happens due to that fact, yes, you can be charged with some very severe crimes (such as being charged with DWI yourself, manslaughter, etc). Now, I didn't read the part about them trying to call the guy a taxi, nor did I say I don't agree with you that it's lame. That certainly doesn't change the FACT that it can legally be pursued.

Yes my best friend was a bartender and told me that they are liable if they do not cut someone off. Bar could lose it's license etc.

Anyways, this is our society now. Everything is now everybody else's fault no one wants to take accountablity for their own actions or in this case blame the person really responsible.

 

[Mee]

You'd think he'd just let it go. Money isn't gonna bring his kid back. And if it's revenge he wants, don't wimp out, kill the bartender's son, and the bartender.

 

[Mr. Credible]

Believe it or not, but I used to be a bartender. There's a reason they make you get a liscense. You're forced to sit through a bull**** class where they explain to you all the things you're liable for. If you continue to serve someone when you know they are intoxicated, if something happens due to that fact, yes, you can be charged with some very severe crimes (such as being charged with DWI yourself, manslaughter, etc). Now, I didn't read the part about them trying to call the guy a taxi, nor did I say I don't agree with you that it's lame. That certainly doesn't change the FACT that it can legally be pursued.

now i know you're full of it.

a bartender getting charged with 'driving while intoxicated', even though he didn't drive a car?

that's pure poppycock. i don't believe it for a second, and who ever told you that lied to you.

also, how are you to know if someone is intoxicated? some people act sober while drunk... some act drunk after one beer, well under the legal limit. it's not up to a bartender to "judge" every patron of his/her bar. that's just silly.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

now i know you're full of it.

a bartender getting charged with 'driving while intoxicated', even though he didn't drive a car?

that's pure poppycock. i don't believe it for a second, and who ever told you that lied to you.

also, how are you to know if someone is intoxicated? some people act sober while drunk... some act drunk after one beer, well under the legal limit. it's not up to a bartender to "judge" every patron of his/her bar. that's just silly.

Yep, you're right. The state is wrong and you, because you can't seem to grasp the concept, are right. You have the internet. Look it up yourself. You have a bad habit of speaking on things you don't know. It's pretty ****ing annoying. Hell, in alot of places you don't even have to be a damn bartender. If you (citizen joe schmo) were to allow someone you knew was intoxicated drive your car, you can be charged with a DWI. You CERTAINLY can be with a bartender.

 

[DBella]

now i know you're full of it.

a bartender getting charged with 'driving while intoxicated', even though he didn't drive a car?

that's pure poppycock. i don't believe it for a second, and who ever told you that lied to you.

also, how are you to know if someone is intoxicated? some people act sober while drunk... some act drunk after one beer, well under the legal limit. it's not up to a bartender to "judge" every patron of his/her bar. that's just silly.

Do you know how ignorant and stupid you sound? The world is at your fingertips now, son. Have your fingers do the walking and look the facts up before you make any idiotic statements. Start by looking up the law on selling alcohol to an intoxicated person in your state. I believe in most states it's a Class B misdemeanor.

Here... I found one article for your lazy ass.
http://www.krgv.com/2006/12/14/33166/-Bartender-Faces-Charges---

 

[jaguarr]

guitarsingerguy is correct.

jag

 

[Mr. Credible]

well, whatever, i stand corrected... that doesn't make it any less stupid, or downright criminal to charge someone with driving under the influence, when they were nowhere near the car in question.

if it's illegal to overserve a person, then bartenders should be required by law to breathalize every bar fly leaving their establishment at all times.

no need to get touchy, guys.

 

[Mr. Credible]

Do you know how ignorant and stupid you sound? The world is at your fingertips now, son. Have you fingers do the walking and look the facts before you make any idiotic statements. Start by looking up the law on selling alcohol to an intoxicated person in your state. I believe in most states it's a Class B misdemeanor.

Here... I found one article for you lazy ass.
http://www.krgv.com/2006/12/14/33166/-Bartender-Faces-Charges---

and you're just a downright prick. there was no reason for name calling, especially considering i wasn't talking to you. i've seen people banned for a lot less.

 

[DBella]

and you're just a downright prick. there was no reason for name calling, especially considering i wasn't talking to you. i've seen people banned for a lot less.

Correction: Not "prick" but "b1tch".
I apologize for the name calling but DWI is a very sensitive subject to me. Still, that doesn't excuse the name calling so... my apologies. But please, look up on the facts before you say someone is "full of it". Thank you.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

well, whatever, i stand corrected... that doesn't make it any less stupid, or downright criminal to charge someone with driving under the influence, when they were nowhere near the car in question.

if it's illegal to overserve a person, then bartenders should be required by law to breathalize every bar fly leaving their establishment at all times.

no need to get touchy, guys.

Well, you see, noone is talking in absolutes nor is anyone talking in right or wrong. We're talking about what's legally possible, probable, and likely. That's all this was about. Do you have any idea how many irrational laws there are out there? Hundreds upon hundreds. Every state is different though.