Favorite LGBTQ2S+ Films

Pittsburgh*, my friend. :cwink: The “h” on the end is why Pittsburgh natives are periodically referred to as “Burghers.”

But yeah, maybe the snow covered up the obvious differences lol. That way people might not notice a Tim Horton’s doubling for Primanti Bros. :funny:

LOL sorry Deckster! "Pittsburgh" it is then. Damn spellcheck :funny:

Peacock just released a trailer for They\Them. Looks like it’s a little derivative of Get Out but I’m here for anything that portrays conversion therapy as barbaric and psychotic. Plus, Kevin Bacon.



Oh man I legitimately didn't even know this film existed. Thanks for brining this to our attention...

Along the same lines I saw a couple conversion therapy films awhile ago that I'd also recommend: Boy Erased with Lucas Hedges and The Miseducation of Cameron Post with Chloë Grace Moretz. Both really good, educational films.

And I agree, conversion therapy is a barbaric form of pseudoscience that needs to universally outlawed as quickly as possible.
 
Now it's been yet lots of years, and I'd love to rewatch it today. However - and I of course don't know for 100% - but I feel like most of these actors were "just acting like queer characters" back in the 90s. In 2022, I'm not sure how that would feel, when today queer roles like that naturally would demand/require queer actors. Would like to hear some comments on that.

This is a good point. I haven't watched The Boys in the Band (remake) yet, but my understanding is that they hired actual gay actors to portray queer characters. Makes sense to me :yay:

Last December I watched The Christmas Setup, which has the distinction of being the first LGBTQ-themed Christmas film ever broadcast by Lifetime. The film stars real-life married same-sex couple Ben Lewis and his husband Blake Lee. The two male leads have such an authentic, natural chemistry that you easily believe their romance in the film. It's a far cry from their 'straight' counterparts who more often than not have no discernible chemistry in these types of movies.

I understand straight actors wanting to stretch themselves by portraying gay characters whose experience may be completely unfamiliar to them, but hiring actual queer actors for these roles allows for an authenticity that hetero thespians can't possibly provide.
 
LOL sorry Deckster! "Pittsburgh" it is then. Damn spellcheck :funny:



Oh man I legitimately didn't even know this film existed. Thanks for brining this to our attention...

Along the same lines I saw a couple conversion therapy films awhile ago that I'd also recommend: Boy Erased with Lucas Hedges and The Miseducation of Cameron Post with Chloë Grace Moretz. Both really good, educational films.

And I agree, conversion therapy is a barbaric form of pseudoscience that needs to universally outlawed as quickly as possible.


Yeah both of those films are on my list. I can’t believe I still haven’t gotten around to watching them. I’ve heard really good things about both. I have seen But I’m a Cheerleader though! Love that film.

And yes, conversion “therapy” is absolutely disgusting and needs to be outlawed everywhere. Unfortunately, if enough idiots and fascists vote for Ron DeathSentence to be our next president in the U.S., then conversion therapy will probably become mandatory nationwide.
 
Now it's been yet lots of years, and I'd love to rewatch it today. However - and I of course don't know for 100% - but I feel like most of these actors were "just acting like queer characters" back in the 90s. In 2022, I'm not sure how that would feel, when today queer roles like that naturally would demand/require queer actors. Would like to hear some comments on that.

This is a good point. I haven't watched The Boys in the Band (remake) yet, but my understanding is that they hired actual gay actors to portray queer characters. Makes sense to me :yay:

Last December I watched The Christmas Setup, which has the distinction of being the first LGBTQ-themed Christmas film ever broadcast by Lifetime. The film stars real-life married same-sex couple Ben Lewis and his husband Blake Lee. The two male leads have such an authentic, natural chemistry that you easily believe their romance in the film. It's a far cry from their 'straight' counterparts who more often than not have no discernible chemistry in these types of movies.

I understand straight actors wanting to stretch themselves by portraying gay characters whose experience may be completely unfamiliar to them, but hiring actual queer actors for these roles allows for an authenticity that hetero thespians can't possibly provide.


Yeah, I have mixed feelings about this. I generally want to see queer actors in queer roles. Like you said Batgirl, it adds authenticity to it that straight actors might not be able to emulate.

In previous decades though, particularly in times like the 1990s when Priscilla and Too Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar came out, it was rare to see queerness depicted in mainstream movie releases. In the case of the latter, I think the fact that they were able to get big names like Patrick Swayze, Wesley Snipes and John Leguizamo to appear in it was why it got so much attention, which in turn likely helped put queerness into the mainstream. So it was probably a good thing.

We’re long past that point though, so it is probably best to seek out queer actors for queer roles. I absolutely feel that there are some roles that absolutely have to go to LGBTQ+ actors; for example, a trans or nonbinary character should NEVER be portrayed by a cisgender actor. I’m able to forgive this sort of thing in older films but not today.
 
In previous decades though, particularly in times like the 1990s when Priscilla and Too Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar came out, it was rare to see queerness depicted in mainstream movie releases. In the case of the latter, I think the fact that they were able to get big names like Patrick Swayze, Wesley Snipes and John Leguizamo to appear in it was why it got so much attention, which in turn likely helped put queerness into the mainstream. So it was probably a good thing.

This is an excellent point. It's easy enough for us to sit here in 2022 and talk about how queer roles should only go to queer actors, but flashback to the '80s and '90s. It was HUGE seeing straight actors of the caliber of Tom Hanks, William Hurt, and Patrick Swayze playing gay characters in mainstream cinema. This definitely went a long way towards establishing the acceptance that queer cinema enjoys today.

As a side note, here in Canada we have the Crave streaming service which has an exclusive agreement with HBO. I'm planning to watch both And the Band Played On and The Normal Heart, two films that deal with the early days of the AIDS crisis here in North America...
 
This is a good point. I haven't watched The Boys in the Band (remake) yet, but my understanding is that they hired actual gay actors to portray queer characters. Makes sense to me :yay:

Last December I watched The Christmas Setup, which has the distinction of being the first LGBTQ-themed Christmas film ever broadcast by Lifetime. The film stars real-life married same-sex couple Ben Lewis and his husband Blake Lee. The two male leads have such an authentic, natural chemistry that you easily believe their romance in the film. It's a far cry from their 'straight' counterparts who more often than not have no discernible chemistry in these types of movies.

I understand straight actors wanting to stretch themselves by portraying gay characters whose experience may be completely unfamiliar to them, but hiring actual queer actors for these roles allows for an authenticity that hetero thespians can't possibly provide.
Yeah, the Boys in the Band film used the same cast of the last Broadway revival, which was broadly heralded to be the first major production of that show with a cast of entirely made-up of openly gay men.

Which reminds me of the wild fact that despite many queer stories on film receiving lauds from the Academy, no openly LGBTQ actor has ever won for playing an openly LGBTQ character. In fact, I'm not sure one has ever been nominated. Its a shame that The Normal Heart wasn't a theatrical release, because Matt Bomer could have broken that barrier for it. Now it looks like its going to be Colman Domingo for 'Rustin.'

I do think that it's very important to be conscious of this and get these roles to the actors in the communities they represent, and working to break down the stigma surrounding what roles are open to LGBTQ actors. Because unfortuantely, it's very clear that Hollywood is still boxing in actors who come out. But it's got to be balanced, because these are the private lives of real people. And I've seen a lot of really awful treatment of non-out actors taking queer roles. It's not right to attack talent over the roles they choose when we don't know their actual sexuality. Thinking about people like Richard Madden or Bryan Tyree Henry who have long faced tabloid speculation over their sexuality. They don't "owe" it to us, and shouldn't feel pressured to go public with their private life in order to take a role that speaks to them.
 
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I do think that it's very important to be conscious of this and get these roles to the actors in the communities they represent, and working to break down the stigma surrounding what roles are open to LGBTQ actors. Because unfortuantely, it's very clear that Hollywood is still boxing in actors who come out. But it's got to be balanced, because these are the private lives of real people. And I've seen a lot of really awful treatment of non-out actors taking queer roles. It's not right to attack talent over the roles they choose when we don't know their actual sexuality. Thinking about people like Richard Madden or Bryan Tyree Henry who have long faced tabloid speculation over their sexuality. They don't "owe" it to us, and shouldn't feel pressured to go public with their private life in order to take a role that speaks to them.

Great points all around. And this has been a pet peeve of mine as far back as I can remember...

Why should an actor have to disclose personal details about their lives to the public just to qualify for a role? If the actor is openly gay and feels their sexuality can provide a degree of authenticity to a role, beautiful. But keeping their personal life private shouldn't necessarily preclude an actor from qualifying for a role either.

And since we're on the topic, actors and musicians are entertainers. They create products for us to consume and enjoy. That doesn't entitle us to insight or knowledge into their personal lives...

It's amazing how some celebrities are able to create strict boundaries between their personal and professional lives, while others can't seem to escape the tabloids no matter how hard they try...
 
Just watched Bit, a fun little vampire movie in which the inhuman villains are more inclusive than a children's book author. The coven of vampires were fun together, and it is interesting to see how they clearly deal with Nicole Maines' character being trans, without outright saying it.
 
Yeah, the Boys in the Band film used the same cast of the last Broadway revival, which was broadly heralded to be the first major production of that show with a cast of entirely made-up of openly gay men.

Which reminds me of the wild fact that despite many queer stories on film receiving lauds from the Academy, no openly LGBTQ actor has ever won for playing an openly LGBTQ character. In fact, I'm not sure one has ever been nominated. Its a shame that The Normal Heart wasn't a theatrical release, because Matt Bomer could have broken that barrier for it. Now it looks like its going to be Colman Domingo for 'Rustin.'

I do think that it's very important to be conscious of this and get these roles to the actors in the communities they represent, and working to break down the stigma surrounding what roles are open to LGBTQ actors. Because unfortuantely, it's very clear that Hollywood is still boxing in actors who come out. But it's got to be balanced, because these are the private lives of real people. And I've seen a lot of really awful treatment of non-out actors taking queer roles. It's not right to attack talent over the roles they choose when we don't know their actual sexuality. Thinking about people like Richard Madden or Bryan Tyree Henry who have long faced tabloid speculation over their sexuality. They don't "owe" it to us, and shouldn't feel pressured to go public with their private life in order to take a role that speaks to them.

Great points all around. And this has been a pet peeve of mine as far back as I can remember...

Why should an actor have to disclose personal details about their lives to the public just to qualify for a role? If the actor is openly gay and feels their sexuality can provide a degree of authenticity to a role, beautiful. But keeping their personal life private shouldn't necessarily preclude an actor from qualifying for a role either.

And since we're on the topic, actors and musicians are entertainers. They create products for us to consume and enjoy. That doesn't entitle us to insight or knowledge into their personal lives...

It's amazing how some celebrities are able to create strict boundaries between their personal and professional lives, while others can't seem to escape the tabloids no matter how hard they try...

Good points and yes this topic is one I hadn’t really considered in my post. There are actors who might not be publicly out but have taken on queer roles and then find themselves pressured to either confirm or deny that they are LGBTQ. I’ve never been a fan of harassing anyone about their sexuality, and I don’t think that a queer actor shouldn’t take a queer role just because they don’t publicly want to come out. Because at the end of the day, it’s their business. I don’t know what the right answer is, frankly.
 
I guess we can add Nope to this list. It’s not really an LGBTQ2S+ themed film but Keke Palmer’s character is queer and even today it’s still pretty rare for the female lead in a mainstream horror/action film to be a queer character. So kudos to Jordan Peele and Keke for that.
 
Good points and yes this topic is one I hadn’t really considered in my post. There are actors who might not be publicly out but have taken on queer roles and then find themselves pressured to either confirm or deny that they are LGBTQ. I’ve never been a fan of harassing anyone about their sexuality, and I don’t think that a queer actor shouldn’t take a queer role just because they don’t publicly want to come out. Because at the end of the day, it’s their business. I don’t know what the right answer is, frankly.

You know Decks, I've thought about this before myself as well. It really must be tricky for queer actors to navigate through Hollywood politics.

Let's say an openly gay actor starts to commit mostly to roles in LGBTQ films, as both Zachary Quinto and Matt Bomer seem to be (generally) doing as of late. They run the risk of audiences not finding them credible in traditionally 'straight' roles and of being typecast.

On the flipside, if a closeted actor accepts a role in a LGBTQ film, they have to deal with the rumor mill kicking into high gear. That whole "is he or isn't he?" crap. It's like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't...

Now, if an actor like Tom Hanks - who is firmly entrenched in the minds of the public as being heterosexual - takes a role as a gay AIDS patient, critics and the Academy trip over themselves to heap praise and accolades on him. It's like that old double standard rears its ugly head no matter where we look...

I agree with ya, it definitely is a conundrum. There doesn't seem to be an easy answer for queer actors...
 
You know Decks, I've thought about this before myself as well. It really must be tricky for queer actors to navigate through Hollywood politics.

Let's say an openly gay actor starts to commit mostly to roles in LGBTQ films, as both Zachary Quinto and Matt Bomer seem to be (generally) doing as of late. They run the risk of audiences not finding them credible in traditionally 'straight' roles and of being typecast.

On the flipside, if a closeted actor accepts a role in a LGBTQ film, they have to deal with the rumor mill kicking into high gear. That whole "is he or isn't he?" crap. It's like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't...

Now, if an actor like Tom Hanks - who is firmly entrenched in the minds of the public as being heterosexual - takes a role as a gay AIDS patient, critics and the Academy trip over themselves to heap praise and accolades on him. It's like that old double standard rears its ugly head no matter where we look...

I agree with ya, it definitely is a conundrum. There doesn't seem to be an easy answer for queer actors...

It really must feel like a minefield for them to navigate. I’m sure their agents aren’t always helpful either and caution them against being too open about their sexuality.
 
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It really must feel like a minefield for them to navigate. I’m sure their agents aren’t always helpful either and caution them against being too open about their sexuality.

Which is a shame really. They're actors after all. Their personal lives should have no bearing on the roes they get to play, regardless of how their characters self-identify.

I recently watched The Thing About Harry on Disney+. Cool little queer-themed Rom-Com with an interesting pedigree. It was co-written and directed by Peter Paige, who played Emmett in the (first) American version of Queer as Folk...

Check this one out if you get a chance :yay:


 
Which is a shame really. They're actors after all. Their personal lives should have no bearing on the roes they get to play, regardless of how their characters self-identify.

I recently watched The Thing About Harry on Disney+. Cool little queer-themed Rom-Com with an interesting pedigree. It was co-written and directed by Peter Paige, who played Emmett in the (first) American version of Queer as Folk...

Check this one out if you get a chance :yay:




Cool; haven’t heard of this one. I’ll have to check it out.

Also, another thing I’ve been thinking about lately is that when a TV series has an overall lack of queer characters, it feels jarring. That may not have been an issue 10-20 years ago but today it feels like a disservice to the community. I can give movies more of a pass because they have to tell a story in a shorter timeframe. But with a series, you have an opportunity to tell a much bigger story and if LGBTQ2S+ people are still ignored, that’s problematic. Though I will give the MCU and Star Wars some **** here; when you build an entire universe with movies and TV shows, there’s no excuse for not having little to no LGBTQ2S+ representation.

I bring this up because I just binged The Last Kingdom over the past few weeks and in five seasons, the show never introduced a single queer character. Although I really like the show (it’s honestly fantastic) that nevertheless bothered me. And while some fans might explain the absence of queer characters as the show being based on historical events - well, I can understand the logic but the show also centers on many fictional characters who interact with the real ones so there would be plenty of room to introduce queer characters. Because to not have them almost feels like you’re trying to say that queer people didn’t exist back then (in this case, 9th Century England). It’s also an almost entirely white cast, which is another problem - historians have noted that European countries weren’t as homogeneous back then as fictional depictions would have you believe.

That’s part of the reason why I was such a fan of the show Black Sails; while it was also a great piece of historical fiction that tied in with real events and people, about half or the main cast were queer characters. It also had prominent Black cast members even though it was a show that primarily focused on European pirates (they could still have done better in this regard but I would still put the show ahead of a lot of other similar period pieces).
 
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On a lighter note, this movie just showed up on Prime and the reviews have been really good. It looks adorable. Directed by the great Billy Porter and set in the ‘Burgh! Tempted to watch it right now but it feels like something I should enjoy with my local queerfam.

 
Cool; haven’t heard of this one. I’ll have to check it out.

Also, another thing I’ve been thinking about lately is that when a TV series has an overall lack of queer characters, it feels jarring. That may not have been an issue 10-20 years ago but today it feels like a disservice to the community. I can give movies more of a pass because they have to tell a story in a shorter timeframe. But with a series, you have an opportunity to tell a much bigger story and if LGBTQ2S+ people are still ignored, that’s problematic. Though I will give the MCU and Star Wars some **** here; when you build an entire universe with movies and TV shows, there’s no excuse for not having little to no LGBTQ2S+ representation.

I bring this up because I just binged The Last Kingdom over the past few weeks and in five seasons, the show never introduced a single queer character. Although I really like the show (it’s honestly fantastic) that nevertheless bothered me. And while some fans might explain the absence of queer characters as the show being based on historical events - well, I can understand the logic but the show also centers on many fictional characters who interact with the real ones so there would be plenty of room to introduce queer characters. Because to not have them almost feels like you’re trying to say that queer people didn’t exist back then (in this case, 9th Century England). It’s also an almost entirely white cast, which is another problem - historians have noted that European countries weren’t as homogeneous back then as fictional depictions would have you believe.

That’s part of the reason why I was such a fan of the show Black Sails; while it was also a great piece of historical fiction that tied in with real events and people, about half or the main cast were queer characters. It also had prominent Black cast members even though it was a show that primarily focused on European pirates (they could still have done better in this regard but I would still put the show ahead of a lot of other similar period pieces).

Here here Deckster. Totally agree with everything you said.

This is a pet peeve of mine as well. How can you possible accurately and authentically portray a society and/or a culture and only have white straight characters? On what planet would that be a fair depiction of any civilization?

Look at it too from the flip side. I don't think I've ever seen a queer-themed movie or TV show that tried to pretend straight people don't exist. Of the LGBTQ films I've seen - and I've seen several - there are always depictions of straight family members, co-workers, and friends to compliment the queer characters. And why wouldn't there be?

It bugs me too when studios are now being accused of all tripping over themselves to follow a woke agenda. Maybe I'm naïve but I like to think that TV/films are finally starting to comprehend their function as sociopolitical reflectors, and are now accurately portraying diversity not as a pandering concession, but as an accurate reflection of reality.

We can only hope :yay:
 
Here here Deckster. Totally agree with everything you said.

This is a pet peeve of mine as well. How can you possible accurately and authentically portray a society and/or a culture and only have white straight characters? On what planet would that be a fair depiction of any civilization?

Look at it too from the flip side. I don't think I've ever seen a queer-themed movie or TV show that tried to pretend straight people don't exist. Of the LGBTQ films I've seen - and I've seen several - there are always depictions of straight family members, co-workers, and friends to compliment the queer characters. And why wouldn't there be?

It bugs me too when studios are now being accused of all tripping over themselves to follow a woke agenda. Maybe I'm naïve but I like to think that TV/films are finally starting to comprehend their function as sociopolitical reflectors, and are now accurately portraying diversity not as a pandering concession, but as an accurate reflection of reality.

We can only hope :yay:

EXACTLY. Right-wing dip****s who want to complain about the “woke agenda” are just pissed because they would prefer to live in a world where queer people are either forced into a closet or don’t exist at all. Jessie Gender, a YouTuber who reviews Star Trek and other shows, did a really great episode where she analyzed how some fans were ripping into a recent episode of Strange New Worlds that featured trans and non-binary actor Jesse James Keitel. These supposed fans were angry about having “the woke agenda forced on them.” But as Jessie pointed out, the plot of episode didn’t have anything to do with the actor or character being trans/non-binary. Therefore, for these people to feel like something was being “forced” upon them was simply due to the fact that the actor was cast in the role. To them, simply acknowledging LGBTQ2S+ people exist is offensive.

Well, I say, **** that. We’re not going anywhere. Queer people exist, and media should reflect that.
 
On a lighter note, this movie just showed up on Prime and the reviews have been really good. It looks adorable. Directed by the great Billy Porter and set in the ‘Burgh! Tempted to watch it right now but it feels like something I should enjoy with my local queerfam.



Haha funny you should mention Anything's Possible! I literally just added this to my Prime list like yesterday...

I agree, it does look delightful! Don't forget to let us know what you think when you get around to watching it :yay:
 
Haha funny you should mention Anything's Possible! I literally just added this to my Prime list like yesterday...

I agree, it does look delightful! Don't forget to let us know what you think when you get around to watching it :yay:

For sure. It has Renee Elise Goldsberry in it so it’s almost a mathematical certainty that I’ll like it!
 
EXACTLY. Right-wing dip****s who want to complain about the “woke agenda” are just pissed because they would prefer to live in a world where queer people are either forced into a closet or don’t exist at all. Jessie Gender, a YouTuber who reviews Star Trek and other shows, did a really great episode where she analyzed how some fans were ripping into a recent episode of Strange New Worlds that featured trans and non-binary actor Jesse James Keitel. These supposed fans were angry about having “the woke agenda forced on them.” But as Jessie pointed out, the plot of episode didn’t have anything to do with the actor or character being trans/non-binary. Therefore, for these people to feel like something was being “forced” upon them was simply due to the fact that the actor was cast in the role. To them, simply acknowledging LGBTQ2S+ people exist is offensive.

Well, I say, **** that. We’re not going anywhere. Queer people exist, and media should reflect that.

Yeah I read about that. And for the record I'm a HUGE fan of Jesse James Keitel, after having seen them in the first season of Big Sky. They're one of the most beautiful people I've seen on television in ages. And they can act circles around their co-stars too!

I couldn't be happier with our current political climate. In terms of entertainment options, it's opened the door to some very interesting talent and projects :yay:
 
I'm trying to watch more queer films at the moment but I can be so picky about them. I find so few contemporary queer films line up with my experiences growing up, or how I identify with queer culture. That said, I am living right now for "surprise bi characters", that is when a non-archetypical character turns out to be bi. My partner and I are watching This Is Us atm and a characters grandfather just came out as bi to his family. Looooove it hahaha
 
Yeah I read about that. And for the record I'm a HUGE fan of Jesse James Keitel, after having seen them in the first season of Big Sky. They're one of the most beautiful people I've seen on television in ages. And they can act circles around their co-stars too!

I couldn't be happier with our current political climate. In terms of entertainment options, it's opened the door to some very interesting talent and projects :yay:

Yeah I only watched a little bit of Big Sky but I agree, JJK was really great in that. And yes, SO beautiful. I have a serious crush on them haha. Especially after Queer as Folk.

I'm trying to watch more queer films at the moment but I can be so picky about them. I find so few contemporary queer films line up with my experiences growing up, or how I identify with queer culture. That said, I am living right now for "surprise bi characters", that is when a non-archetypical character turns out to be bi. My partner and I are watching This Is Us atm and a characters grandfather just came out as bi to his family. Looooove it hahaha

Haha I know what you mean. The “surprise bi” thing has become kind of a common trope in a lot of shows and I like that too because bi/pansexuality can be like that in real life; someone you assumed was straight suddenly is in a queer relationship and it’s like, “Oh wow, awesome!” I think introducing those characters helps to challenge the default assumptions that people tend to have, which is a good thing.
 
Yeah I only watched a little bit of Big Sky but I agree, JJK was really great in that. And yes, SO beautiful. I have a serious crush on them haha. Especially after Queer as Folk.

Oh I didn't realize they were on QAF! Yet another reason to bump the show up my list :oldrazz:

I'm trying to watch more queer films at the moment but I can be so picky about them. I find so few contemporary queer films line up with my experiences growing up, or how I identify with queer culture. That said, I am living right now for "surprise bi characters", that is when a non-archetypical character turns out to be bi. My partner and I are watching This Is Us atm and a characters grandfather just came out as bi to his family. Looooove it hahaha

I love This Is Us. Unfortunately I've only gotten to the end of Season 3 so far, so I've got a ways to go until I finish the entire series. But I know which character you're referring to and I agree, it came out of left field lol...

I recently found out that one of my co-workers, who is male, straight, early thirties, wife and two kids, has fallen in love with a queer boy who was his server at a local restaurant. He's currently struggling with how he should proceed - pursue something on the 'low' or let his wife know he intends to explore this situation.

Talk about 'surprise bi' lol! Sometimes real life really does imitate art :yay:
 

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