Female circumcision a problem in the UK

[November Rain]

The thing is these circumcisions are preformed against peoples will.

I'm not sure how much will a four year old, or any young individual actually has but that is another topic entirely.

 

[Movies205]

This is terrible and always make me a little sick about hearing it... However for the fellow comic geeks out there, Peter David used it as inspiration for a storyline involving I believe the Kree, I believe in Captain Marvel Vol. 3, not Vol. 4. Where the Kree evolved into a higer evolutionary form however women were stripped of there ability of sexual pleasure or something of that sort since they kept distracting the ment, and one manage to escape asking for protection from CM, it was really a great story... I really should dig out my CM collection and re-read it...

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Shouldn't it be the men who are robbed of pleasure if the women are too distracting?

 

[Dark Carnage]

The thing is, while both are unnecessary, Male Circumcision is about appearance while Female Circumcision is about Male insecurity. It's all about guys being so scared that their women will cheat on them they decide to reduce the women's sexual pleasure, instead of taking care of business like a man should.

BUT REMEMBER!
WE NEED TO RESPECT THE BELIEFS OF OTHERS EVEN IF WE DISAGREE WITH THEM.

So much for freedom of speech, eh?

 

[November Rain]

Well it pretty much seems like all circumcisions are against peoples will. But female circucisions really seems to serve no point where its still up for debate about male circumcision.

Well it's reasoning has been stated and that is to curve sexual desires withing females, similar perhaps to how dogs get castrated to curve they aggressive tendencies

the practice itself is really a moot point and it's more about the cultural role of females in some african and arabic societies that is really the issue that needs to be resolved.

Especially whether these roles can be maintained while living in a westernised society with westernised rules which in the views of some may be more inviting for some people to become culturally lost.

 

[Movies205]

Shouldn't it be the men who are robbed of pleasure if the women are too distracting?

I forget the specifics, I think it was along the lines that women had some control over hte men, however I dodn't remember if it was simply alluding to the same control human women have over men, or if it was something more. However it's typical Peter David to be a bit over-top ironic, in which he simply saying that men instead of fixing hte problem within themselves attack women.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

So November Rain greets us with the idea that there's no such thing as a barbaric, evil, disgusting practice, as long as the practice is undertaken by a large group of people.

I saw a documentary on PBS about Jungle-Dwellers who routinely ******e their male children if they're crying. For them, if a two year old kid is crying, and it's mother does not intervene by performing oral sex on the child, she is a bad mother.

So if these tribesmen ever move to the big city, I guess we should respect their cultural differeces and allow them to suck on their sons penises in the street

right then.

 

[chamber-music]

So November Rain greets us with the idea that there's no such thing as a barbaric, evil, disgusting practice, as long as the practice is undertaken by a large group of people.

I saw a documentary on PBS about Jungle-Dwellers who routinely ******e their male children if they're crying. For them, if a two year old kid is crying, and it's mother does not intervene by performing oral sex on the child, she is a bad mother.

So if these tribesmen ever move to the big city, I guess we should respect their cultural differeces and allow them to suck on their sons penises in the street

right then.

dude was that for real

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

dude was that for real

Yes, the documentary showed them doing it.
But it's arrogant of us to think our culture is superior.
Their ways are just...different.

 

[November Rain]

I actually honestly don't have a problem with that.

I'm in by far in no position to judge the practices of other cultures, especially when ultimately none of their practices affect me.

 

[Strange]

So November Rain greets us with the idea that there's no such thing as a barbaric, evil, disgusting practice, as long as the practice is undertaken by a large group of people.

I saw a documentary on PBS about Jungle-Dwellers who routinely ******e their male children if they're crying. For them, if a two year old kid is crying, and it's mother does not intervene by performing oral sex on the child, she is a bad mother.

So if these tribesmen ever move to the big city, I guess we should respect their cultural differeces and allow them to suck on their sons penises in the street

right then.

Gettin a blow job and getting part of you cut off is a big difference or it is in my book at least.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I actually honestly don't have a problem with that.

I'm in by far in no position to judge the practices of other cultures, especially when ultimately none of their practices affect me.

You're sick.

If there's a society that condones slavery, you wouldn't judge it as wrong as long as YOU aren't the one being enslaved.

Awesome.

 

[November Rain]

meh, it's easy to be a freedom fighter over the internet but ultimately, I know you're going to do as much about this problem as i am.

I am merely being realistic.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Gettin a blow job and getting part of you cut off is a big difference or it is in my book at least.

Of course they're different.
I just want to make sure that all these people who feel that there's no such thing as right and wrong really believe that. So I bring up examples of cultural practices that are very "different" from those of most anyone who'd be typing here at the Hype today.

 

[Movies205]

So November Rain greets us with the idea that there's no such thing as a barbaric, evil, disgusting practice, as long as the practice is undertaken by a large group of people.

I saw a documentary on PBS about Jungle-Dwellers who routinely ******e their male children if they're crying. For them, if a two year old kid is crying, and it's mother does not intervene by performing oral sex on the child, she is a bad mother.

So if these tribesmen ever move to the big city, I guess we should respect their cultural differeces and allow them to suck on their sons penises in the street

right then.

May I ask how long this tribe has been around?

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

meh, it's easy to be a freedom fighter over the internet but ultimately, I know you're going to do as much about this problem as i am.

I am merely being realistic.

Absurd. I can't go fight a one man war against entire countries, and I have no sway with the government, but you can still learn about people, behaviors and events and make judgements.

I can't stop things from happening on the other side of the world, but I still know that if I saw my neighbor about to cut his kids wee-wee off, I'd try and stop it...go over physically and also call the cops.

You wouldn't.
You're evil. *shrug*

 

[Movies205]

Depends... Female circumcision **** ya... I'd put a stop to that, any type of mutilation etc... However the example you posted Wilhelm about *****tio on 2 year olds by mothers opens so many nasty doors, it makes the head spin with philosophical and psychological questions, I don't think that question can be described as wrong or right so easily

 

[Strange]

Depends... Female circumcision **** ya... I'd put a stop to that, any type of mutilation etc... However the example you posted Wilhelm about *****tio on 2 year olds by mothers opens so many nasty doors, it makes the head spin with philosophical and psychological questions, I don't think that question can be described as wrong or right so easily

Yeah it is nasty they should just have a nanny or someone elses mother do the job.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

May I ask how long this tribe has been around?

Since Tuesday.
How should I know? It was a documentary I saw on PBS in the 90's.
The origins of how their people came to settle in that area were not explored in any way.
It was about this very issue, showing different cultures from all over the world and talking about how our Western view is not superior, so even though other cultures may shock us, we shouldn't condemn them as "wrong"........then it brought this tribe up to admit that this could be very difficult for some people and to spark the debate about whether you can make any judgements about these things.

 

[November Rain]

I would go into this but unfortunately it would take the thread off topic and Ultimately, I don't mind being called evil.

I just know that this story hasn't affected you or I or anyone else on this site enough to do anything about it. I'm fairly unmoved about the victims based on culture. You're first post was not about the victims but more about the christian agenda and their role in it, pointing out the hypocrisy in religion.

I say it's not my business. YOu say if it was in your viscinity it will become your business.

On the law of averages, me being evil or you being good will have no affect on how many of these individuals we're going to help as we're never likely come into contact with any individuals with these 'non-western' cultural abnomolies.



edit: that capital 'you' isn't an aggressive one, merely a typo i can't be bothered to correct.

 

[Movies205]

Since Tuesday.
How should I know? It was a documentary I saw on PBS in the 90's.
The origins of how their people came to settle in that area were not explored in any way.
It was about this very issue, showing different cultures from all over the world and talking about how our Western view is not superior, so even though other cultures may shock us, we shouldn't condemn them as "wrong"........then it brought this tribe up to admit that this could be very difficult for some people and to spark the debate about whether you can make any judgements about these things.

Well the reason I ask is that a lot of tribes have been around for like a thousand years, now if they've been doing that for a thousand years and have been prosprerous it's a lot harder to say that it's a "wrong" practice, rather than if it some cult htat was originated last week. For the reason phedophilia is wrong is that your taking advantage of a child and thus violating him/her, while in this tribe it's merely a 2 year old being soothed by his mother(I know this sounds ****ed up), and probably won't even remember it... That example is very hazy since I could see arguments being made on both sides... However if female circumcision is wrong and a horrible practice...

 

[Strange]

When I cried a lot when I was a baby my mom put whisky in my milk bottle and it would shut me up.














Maybe that is why I'm an alcoholic now.

 

[Movies205]

I would go into this but unfortunately it would take the thread off topic and Ultimately, I don't mind being called evil.

I just know that this story hasn't affected you or I or anyone else on this site enough to do anything about it. I'm fairly unmoved about the victims based on culture. You're first post was not about the victims but more about the christian agenda and their role in it, pointing out the hypocrisy in religion.

I say it's not my business. YOu say if it was in your viscinity it will become your business.

On the law of averages, me being evil or you being good will have no affect on how many of these individuals as we're never likely come into contact with any individuals with 'non-western' cultural abnomolies.



edit: that capital 'you' isn't an aggressive one, merely a typo i can't be bothered to correct.

I'm reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra at the moment and I really love what he has to say about good and evil... "Truely, I say to you: Unchanging good and evil does not exist! From out of themselves they must overcome themeslves again and again." Nietzsche at least from what I gatther from his writing argues that we must become virtue instead of simply saying where virtue or following some crusty old manuscript on how to live our lives...

 

[Movies205]

When I cried a lot when I was a baby my mom put whisky in my milk bottle and it would shut me up.














Maybe that is why I'm an alcoholic now.

Ha... I'm not condoning it, simply saying that it's not a black and white issue and culture becomes hazy, however that doesn't excuse everything.

 

[November Rain]

When I cried a lot when I was a baby my mom put whisky in my milk bottle and it would shut me up.

Maybe that is why I'm an alcoholic now.

Now imagine someone from another culture came and attacked your mother for such a practice and said she was unfit to raise you and they all agreed she should have sucked your knob instead.

Does that make the west now bad for adopting this sedative method of calming instead of perhaps a natural dopamine based sedative from genital stimulating?

For every finger you point out at peeps, there's about four tiems as much stuff they can point at your practices and condemn.

that's why i stay outta it but alas, that's not the right thing to do...

everyone should apparently look out for everybody and this whole big brother paranoia state of affairs is the only way to go.