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i sorta feel bad for the fans of generation 1, but a small part of me is glad...

...because this is shaping up the be the UBER Hollywood Popcorn Action Summer flick! haha. fellas (and ladies) turn your brains off and enjoy the ride!!!
 
DorkyFresh said:
i sorta feel bad for the fans of generation 1, but a small part of me is glad...

...because this is shaping up the be the UBER Hollywood Popcorn Action Summer flick! haha. fellas (and ladies) turn your brains off and enjoy the ride!!!

Fortunately.... I don't think audiences go for that ***** anymore. The Island is a big example. MI3's lackluster performance is another.

I think I read a poster say the SAME EXACT thing as your post concerning Godzilla 98 way back when... and that movie was a box office bomb (relatively speaking).

The days of the movies for ******s (Independence Day, Armageddon, etc) died (IMHO) on 9/11. Audiences aren't so stupid anymore (some ****** holdovers notwithstanding).
 
CFlash said:
Fortunately.... I don't think audiences go for that ***** anymore. The Island is a big example. MI3's lackluster performance is another.

I think I read a poster say the SAME EXACT thing as your post concerning Godzilla 98 way back when... and that movie was a box office bomb (relatively speaking).

The days of the movies for ******s (Independence Day, Armageddon, etc) died (IMHO) on 9/11. Audiences aren't so stupid anymore (some ****** holdovers notwithstanding).

again branding ppl with lables b/c they enjoy something you don't:(
X3 seems to refute your theory that ppl don't still enjoy a old fashioned kickass actioner
 
I really don't mind Bumblebee being a Camaro. It's a sweet car, but I want to know what they're planning for it consider that that Camaro hasn't technically been "greenlit" (it's a shoein, but still...things happen sometimes that prevent cars from going ahead.)

That yellow Camaro up on the flatbed looks like the '81. If so, my friend has that same car, but it's a z28 and black (and also in FAR better condition) but that's still tight.
 
hunter rider said:
again branding ppl with lables b/c they enjoy something you don't:(
X3 seems to refute your theory that ppl don't still enjoy a old fashioned kickass actioner

I happen to think X3 was anything but mindless... and not nearly the "actioner" you (and many others) suggest. In fact, the movie was about 90% exposition before any action. And despite it straying from the source (which all the X-Men movies did) it nonetheless managed to touch upon all the emotional points and conflicts the comic did.

If Transformers is half as thought-provoking as X3, I'd be happy. Somehow, I doubt it.
 
tried clicking the links and nothing shows up :(

where are the pics?
 
CFlash said:
I happen to think X3 was anything but mindless... and not nearly the "actioner" you (and many others) suggest. In fact, the movie was about 90% exposition before any action. And despite it straying from the source (which all the X-Men movies did) it nonetheless managed to touch upon all the emotional points and conflicts the comic did.

If Transformers is half as thought-provoking as X3, I'd be happy. Somehow, I doubt it.

i guess that i was right the other day:up:
 
The whole old camaro/new camaro thing kinda reminds me of Bumblebees transformation into GOLDBUG...even the color of the new model is a little more "golden"
 
The fact that it's transportation vehicles transforming into giant robots will get asses in seats, period. It will matter to fans of the mythos if they're accurate, but to a lot of people it's just going to be giant robots fighting.
 
terry78 said:
The fact that it's transportation vehicles transforming into giant robots will get asses in seats, period. It will matter to fans of the mythos if they're accurate, but to a lot of people it's just going to be giant robots fighting.

I don't know about that. Audiences seem weary of the mindless blockbuster nowadays. The lackluster performance of MI3 I think is evidence of that. Not to mention Bay's last movie The Island.

Bad word of mouth will definately kill this movie.... or at least temper its success. Alienating the fans will rob the movie of repeat viewers (For instance, I usually see these comic movies twice.... once with my friends and once with my fiance--- IF it's good). And if the movie doesn't appeal to the majority of Gen-X that remember things like Bumblebee Bug and Soundwave being Soundwave.... it also robs the "take your kids" factor.

No way, I'm taking my daughter to see a bastardized Transformers.... there would be ZERO "bonding experience" for me to do so. Plus, I'm sure Disney or whatever will have a suitable alternative to take my daughter to.

What could have been a 500 Million+ domestic box office take.... just suddenly became 275 Million (and that's being generous!). Sure it might make its money back.... but in no way will it be a classic.

I really wish this movie endouvered to be a classic.
 
CFlash said:
I don't know about that. Audiences seem weary of the mindless blockbuster nowadays. The lackluster performance of MI3 I think is evidence of that. Not to mention Bay's last movie The Island.

Bad word of mouth will definately kill this movie.... or at least temper its success. Alienating the fans will rob the movie of repeat viewers (For instance, I usually see these comic movies twice.... once with my friends and once with my fiance--- IF it's good). And if the movie doesn't appeal to the majority of Gen-X that remember things like Bumblebee Bug and Soundwave being Soundwave.... it also robs the "take your kids" factor.

No way, I'm taking my daughter to see a bastardized Transformers.... there would be ZERO "bonding experience" for me to do so. Plus, I'm sure Disney or whatever will have a suitable alternative to take my daughter to.

What could have been a 500 Million+ domestic box office take.... just suddenly became 275 Million (and that's being generous!). Sure it might make its money back.... but in no way will it be a classic.

I really wish this movie endouvered to be a classic.
MI-3 was not mindless and you're making a crazy halving of box office profits based off the fact your upset over a few changes,don't you think waiting until we see something would make more sense ?
 
hunter rider said:
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Megatron?
 
CFlash said:
Fortunately.... I don't think audiences go for that ***** anymore.
i'm sorry?

i seem to recall a few action packed and popcorny flicks that did fairly well in the box office....they're called Pirates of the Caribbean, X-Men 3, and Chronicles of Narnia. also...these movies might not've been big at the box office but everyone i know who saw the movie actually liked Underworld (both of them) and Mr. & Mrs. Smith...

I think I read a poster say the SAME EXACT thing as your post concerning Godzilla 98 way back when...
well then...it was probably me, hehe. i loved Godzilla 98....it was a fun and stupidly awesome movie. it might not've been 100% faithful to Godzilla but i still think it's a fun movie to watch. if the movie were called anything else but Godzilla i bet it would've done much better...

The days of the movies for ******s (Independence Day, Armageddon, etc) died (IMHO) on 9/11.
well like you said....that's your opinion. and i'm glad you get off by calling people who know how to ENJOY movies (instead of analyze them) ******ed.

Bad word of mouth will definately kill this movie.... or at least temper its success.
bad word of mouth from a handfull of G1 purist fanboys is NOT going to kill this movie...haha

And if the movie doesn't appeal to the majority of Gen-X that remember things like Bumblebee Bug and Soundwave being Soundwave.... it also robs the "take your kids" factor.
riiiggghhtt...i'm sure ALL the G1 fans are going to deny their kids this movie. :rolleyes: even if they did, that doesn't mean all the parents that will bring their kids to this flick are G1 fans. i'm sure the majority of the parents who bring their kids don't even know who Megatron is...

CFlash said:
Sure it might make its money back.... but in no way will it be a classic.

I really wish this movie endouvered to be a classic.
keep wishing...even if Spielberg HIMSELF were to direct, it still probably wouldn't be regarded as a classic. there are few movies now-a-days that you can hold in the same regard as the Godfather.

Transformers was never meant to make you think about the meaning of life or the mysteries of the universe. it was made to entertain kids......and that's exactly was this movie is going to do, even if that kid is the little kid inside the adult.

but i'm gathering by your posts that you're probably not in touch with yours...
 
Who's talking Godfather? I meant Cameron's Terminator and Aliens... or even Singers Usual Suspects, type classic. Bay has not produced a "classic" movie in his entire career.

I agree with your sig that it is a great time to be a comic book fan.

But not all these movies are "good." Most are just passable (like FF4). Some are horrible (like Elektra). Only 1 or 2 are destined to be classics and influential in the Tim Burton sort of way or James Cameron sort of way.

But, yeah... lowered expectations helps a lot when going to see some of these movies.
 
Anybody's got a picture of Bonecrusher's ****ing huge claw thingy? That owned.
 
VW Beetle would be better, but I guess they already chose to run with a Camaro.
 
DorkyFresh said:
i sorta feel bad for the fans of generation 1, but a small part of me is glad...

...because this is shaping up the be the UBER Hollywood Popcorn Action Summer flick! haha. fellas (and ladies) turn your brains off and enjoy the ride!!!

One major thing you are not thinking about. If you do your math, Gen I fans are the ones who now hold the credit cards, have families and are driving the economy. All are ranging from their late 20’s to early 40’s.

Purely from a demographic stand point, THIS is the audience you want to capture; THIS is the audience who will be going to introduce their young children to the Transformers. The first movie has to be one at least somewhat based in nostalgia, just to grab them.

From there you evolve your stories to include new characters, designs and then introduce the new stuff to that audience. Going the other way around to appease toy contracts and Hollywood morons who insist on having creative input and are not familiar with anything other than the bottom line is a huge mistake. You end up with those would be buyers walking out with a disappointed, WTF look on their face and spending their dollars somewhere else.

After over 20 years of waiting, buying and dreaming I think that audience deserves to see that movie.
 
CFlash said:
I don't know about that. Audiences seem weary of the mindless blockbuster nowadays. The lackluster performance of MI3 I think is evidence of that. Not to mention Bay's last movie The Island.

Bad word of mouth will definately kill this movie.... or at least temper its success.

What could have been a 500 Million+ domestic box office take.... just suddenly became 275 Million (and that's being generous!).

1. The Island isn't mindless, nor does it mean you have to be Einstein to watch it, but it's not mindless

2. Bad word of mouth from a small faction of whiny nerds hell-bent on destroying a movie for no real viable reason certainly didn't hurt X3's opening

3. You REALLY thought that transformers had a shot at a $500 MILLION DOMESTIC box office take???

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH:eek:

You have invalidated about 65% of what you say on these boards.
 
I doubt any grown man would not take his kids to see a Transformers movie if they were excited about it from trailers purely b/c they altered a toon he liked as an 8 year old,what kind of dispicible parenting would that be ?
 
Denny67 said:
One major thing you are not thinking about. If you do your math, Gen I fans are the ones who now hold the credit cards, have families and are driving the economy. All are ranging from their late 20’s to early 40’s.

Purely from a demographic stand point, THIS is the audience you want to capture; THIS is the audience who will be going to introduce their young children to the Transformers. The first movie has to be one at least somewhat based in nostalgia, just to grab them.

i agree that the gen 1 fans deserve a faithful movie, but you're speaking as if gen 1 fans are going to make up the most people who would watch a Transformers movie. you're making the assumption that all parents who are late 20 to early 40 is a gen 1 Transformer fan.

once again, i really wish they would've been more faithful to gen 1, but gen 1 fans aren't the ONLY people who hold the credit cards, have families, and drive the economy. there are MILLIONS of adults out there that know next to NOTHING about Transformers....but they're gonna take their kids to see it anyway. not to mention all the teens who are able to drive and love cool looking vehicles and action movies.

don't use gen 1 fans when talking about box office draw because i guarantee that there are more parents that don't know anything about Transformers than there are parents that are gen 1 fans. most likely both types of parents will be taking their kids to go see the film REGARDLESS of if it's based on gen 1 or not, simply because it's gonna have a lot of action and because it's gonna have vehicles that ****ing transform into robots...
 
hunter rider said:
I doubt any grown man would not take his kids to see a Transformers movie if they were excited about it from trailers purely b/c they altered a toon he liked as an 8 year old,what kind of dispicible parenting would that be ?

thank you...i'm sorry but if i had a kid and they wanted to see a new Spider-Man movie that's been drastically altered from the comic book...

...i'm still gonna take them to see the movie because 1) i'm still a Spider-Man fan so it'd be interesting to see someone else's take on it and 2) because it's what my KID wants.....not me. once you have a kid, his/her wants and needs come first.
 
hunter rider said:
I doubt any grown man would not take his kids to see a Transformers movie if they were excited about it from trailers purely b/c they altered a toon he liked as an 8 year old,what kind of dispicible parenting would that be ?

Uhhh.... A discerning parent... Maybe? Are you a parent? You take your kids to movies simply because a trailer tells them "see me?"

Well, my daughter sees about a gazillion commercials for lots of things. And, she'd just assume go see Hoodwinked as she would Shaggy Dog. (Knowing full well she'll likely see either on DVD at some point in the future). I don't take her to see EVERY movie.... so we discuss and we PICK what we go see.

There's your answer.
 
CFlash said:
Uhhh.... A discerning parent... Maybe? Are you a parent? You take your kids to movies simply because a trailer tells them "see me?"

Well, my daughter sees about a gazillion commercials for lots of things. And, she'd just assume go see Hoodwinked as she would Shaggy Dog. (Knowing full well she'll likely see either on DVD at some point in the future). I don't take her to see EVERY movie.... so we discuss and we PICK what we go see.

There's your answer.

If the movie is a kids film and is of a suitable age you take them to see it like my folks took me to see He Man even though "OMG" it was completely altered from my comic experience
Are you telling me if she thought the TF movie looked awesome fun that you wouldn't take her to it b/c they changed some characters you liked as a child ?
also im not a parent but i am an uncle and we do what the kids want if it is suitble,i don't consider an action movie without a heavy plot or faithfulness to something i liked as an 8 year old bad for them
 

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