GamerGate Film 'Crash Override' In Development

[DarthSkywalker]

So I guess you have no problem if a person was bribing his/her way to gain undeserved leverage for their product?

One, there is no evidence this ever happened. Two, I am sure you considered the source of the information. Three, considering what I have seen in the gaming industry on a large scale, I don't care. Especially considering the problem here wouldn't be the game developer, but the journalist.

This I agree on,the vast majority of those that latches to both sides really have not a clue on what they're fighting for and sometimes whom they're fighting against ( check the Totalbiscuit incident).

I love Total Biscuit. One of my favorite online personalities. He made a huge error in suggesting that the problem wasn't the the misogynistic attack on a person. A lot more important then reviews.

There were attemps at reasonable discussion from both sides, normally the extremist views succintly drowns them .

You do realize that this was situation was started with criminal acts against a person, right? What reasonable discussion is there to be have when that is happening?

Frankly,I believe the whole incident would still happened if Zoe Quin wasn't a woman.It was the allegation of the position and sexual persuasion to pushe/curry favour in order to promote an own inferior (or so I was told) product that was the crux of the issue.Changing her to him do nothing for that,maybe turning those abnoxious troll s into feministanf SJW zealots instead.

History says otherwise. That you brought up her sex life, which you have no actual knowledge of, in and of itself proves that.

So you're telling that you can name very single game that have heard and yet completely fails to garner your interest?If it that is true , then I truly admire and envy your amazing memory.

I am not accusing a woman of prostituting for game reviews. If I were, I'd probably learn what I was talking about.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

How on earth are they making a movie about women like Zoe Guinn and Anita Sarkeesian who went all the way to the UN to promote Internet censorship?

What about the internet should allow you to break the law?

 

[Black Narcissus]

Just give me a scene with Scarlett in her panties playing Arkham Knight.

Das it, mayne.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Just give me a scene with Scarlett in her panties playing Arkham Knight.

Das it, mayne.

Wrong time period Black Narcissus.

 

[Drz]

What about the internet should allow you to break the law?

I don't know what laws have been broken, I really don't know anything about Gamergate.

But I know about this:
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[DarthSkywalker]

I don't know what laws have been broken, I really don't know anything about Gamergate.

But I know about this:
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You do realize this is harassment right? You can't do this on the street. Go around telling some they are horrible and they suck on the street consistently. If you did, you'd get arrested for harassment. The person in that video came off like a complete idiot, and I even dislike Sarkeesian. Also, love how he framed the discussion around feminist BS. Because that is a real problem in the world.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Wrong time period Black Narcissus.

Oh, I'm not nitpicking.

 

[DA_Champion]

I think it's worth making films about gamergate. It's a real issue. There's a huge pool of entitled male rage in the USA, movies can help us explore it, understand it, and thus eventually mitigate it, they are part of the cultural conversation.

 

[Thoix]

A year old video, but this video I feel accurately explains the history of GamerGate:
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I also find the 'Society of Professional Journalists' GamerGate Panels to be worth mentioning (Abrigded Cut Below):
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If you want the full morning and afternoon panels of the GamerGate SPJAirplay events, follow the links below (they're long):
SPJAirplay Morning Panel, "What is GamerGate?"
SPJAirplay Afternoon Panel, plus bomb threat


I think everyone should always listen to both sides of the story and make up their own minds. Even if you don't support GamerGate, more power to you. I try to stay as neutral as possible myself. There are things I do not like about GamerGate but as a movement as a whole I do agree with their push for ethics and journalist integrity in the games journalism. I haven't trusted the big gaming publications for year and only rely on them for videos such as trailers and gameplay. As for people like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian, I definitely do not like them and I think they deserve all the (constructive, non-insulting) criticism they receive. But I do not think they should be harassed or threatened in any way, shape, or form.

EDIT: Thanks to DarthSkywalker for helping me post YouTube videos! t:

 

[SerialPeacemake]

One, there is no evidence this ever happened. Two, I am sure you considered the source of the information. Three, considering what I have seen in the gaming industry on a large scale, I don't care. Especially considering the problem here wouldn't be the game developer, but the journalist.

Hence why I said allegedly.Though I don't rally care enough about the state gaming industry in general, I do realise that this issue was never as clear cut as people like to preach.

I love Total Biscuit. One of my favorite online personalities. He made a huge error in suggesting that the problem wasn't the the misogynistic attack on a person. A lot more important then reviews.

To many gamegater and those sympathetic to the ideas, the issue of journalistic intergrity and their role/responsibility to the gamer public/consumers were the integral core of the movement.Totalbiscuit wasn't wrong in steering the attention to that direction.

You do realize that this was situation was started with criminal acts against a person, right? What reasonable discussion is there to be have when that is happening?

Simple , by ignoring the *******s, the radicals and extremist (tey're onl as strong as the atention you're willing to give them) and engaging the the moderates, the rational ones.

History says otherwise. That you brought up her sex life, which you have no actual knowledge of, in and of itself proves that.

Considering that in this case sex was the currency of the alleged bribery, it it quite pertinent .And I would still do it if his name was Cassanova.

I am not accusing a woman of prostituting for game reviews.

Neither was I.

I'd probably learn what I was talking about.

I wish you would follow your own advice.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

A year old video, but this video I feel accurately explains the evidence and history of GamerGate: The Evidence and History of GamerGate

I also find the SPJAirplay Gamer Panels to be worth mentioning: 'Society of Professional Journalists': Airplay GamerGate Panels (Abridged Cut):

If you want the full morning and afternoon panels of the GamerGate SPJAirplay events, follow the links below:
SPJAirplay Morning Panel, "What is GamerGate?"
SPJAirplay Afternoon Panel, plus bomb threat

I think everyone should always listen to both sides of the story and make up their own minds. So if you don't support GamerGate, more power to you. I try to stay as neutral as possible myself. There are things I do not like about GamerGate but as a movement as a whole I do agree with their push for ethics and journalist integrity in the games journalism. I haven't trusted the big gaming publications for year and only rely on them for videos such as trailers and gameplay. As for people like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian, I definitely do not like them and I think they deserve all the criticism they receive. But I do not think they should be harassed or threatened in any way, shape, or form.

EDIT: I can't get videos to post correctly, so I'm just sharing link to the YouTube videos.

If you want to embed a YT video, you want to post everything after the "=" sign only.

 

[Drz]

You do realize this is harassment right?

Aah so you're talking about the suggestion of facing penalty for insults on the internet? You mean in America you don't get fined from personal insults if it happens online?

 

[PacificBoy]

Sounds like First World Problems: The Movie.

 

[Thoix]

If you want to embed a YT video, you want to post everything after the "=" sign only.

Thanks for the help.

 

[SerialPeacemake]

A year old video, but this video I feel accurately explains the history of GamerGate: The Evidence and History of GamerGate

I also find the SPJAirplay GamerGate Panels to be worth mentioning: 'Society of Professional Journalists': Airplay GamerGate Panels (Abridged Cut):

If you want the full morning and afternoon panels of the GamerGate SPJAirplay events, follow the links below:
SPJAirplay Morning Panel, "What is GamerGate?"
SPJAirplay Afternoon Panel, plus bomb threat

I think everyone should always listen to both sides of the story and make up their own minds. Even if you don't support GamerGate, more power to you. I try to stay as neutral as possible myself. There are things I do not like about GamerGate but as a movement as a whole I do agree with their push for ethics and journalist integrity in the games journalism. I haven't trusted the big gaming publications for year and only rely on them for videos such as trailers and gameplay. As for people like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian, I definitely do not like them and I think they deserve all the criticism they receive. But I do not think they should be harassed or threatened in any way, shape, or form.

EDIT: I can't get videos to post correctly, so I'm just sharing link to the YouTube videos.

Those are my exact position on such issues.You should alway tries to learn both sides' arguments on the matter.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Hence why I said allegedly.Though I don't rally care enough about the state gaming industry in general, I do realise that this issue was never as clear cut as people like to preach.

Oh, I know you don't care. It is pretty clear what you do care about here, and it isn't game journalism.

To many gamegater and those sympathetic to the ideas, the issue of journalistic intergrity and their role/responsibility to the gamer public/consumers were the integral core of the movement.Totalbiscuit wasn't wrong in steering the attention to that direction.

Yes he was. Because the issue at hand wasn't game journalism, but criminal activity. That could be discussed at anytime.

Simple , by ignoring the *******s, the radicals and extremist (tey're onl as strong as the atention you're willing to give them) and engaging the the moderates, the rational ones.

So ignore the threats against someone's life because it is inconvenient?

Considering that in this case sex was the currency of the alleged bribery, it it quite pertinent .And I would still do it if his name was Cassanova.

No, the phrase ****-shaming doesn't exist for no reason. The society that high fives men for sleeping around while shaming women for doing the same thing, no.

Neither was I.

What exactly do you mean by "sex as currency" then?

I wish you would follow your own advice.

Oh, I do.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Aah so you're talking about the suggestion of facing penalty for insults on the internet? You mean in America you don't get fined from personal insults if it happens online?

I am talking about not being allowed to harass other people just because you are online. What about being online should change one's responsibility for their own actions?

 

[Drz]

I am talking about not being allowed to harass other people just because you are online.

Yeah but are we now talking about real harassment or are we talking about these horrible women trying to completely censor people who are opposing their views?

SerialPeacemake, I really liked this video you shared:
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[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah but are we now talking about real harassment or are we talking about these horrible women trying to completely censor people who are opposing their views?

SerialPeacemake, I really liked this video you shared:
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Why is it always, "these horrible women". I am not a woman, and while I don't completely agree with all their views on this subject, censorship is different then what we are discussing. What problem is there in showing one's opposing view in a manner that doesn't involve harassment? Have people forgotten how to use their words?

Look at GamerGate, what it is, how it started and why it started. This is no different then most conservative arguments against anything. They claim it is about one thing, while continuously supporting a classically bigoted assault that is the core of the following. It was like watching random idiots call Obama a Muslim, a terrorist and questioning where he was born.

Again, problems with videogame journalism has been going on for years. I have complained about it myself for a long time. GamerGate had nothing to do with that.

 

[SerialPeacemake]

Oh, I know you don't care. It is pretty clear what you do care about here, and it isn't game journalism.

What pray tell is my angle,then ?You right, I don't gave a a dam about game journalism.

Yes he was. Because the issue at hand wasn't game journalism, but criminal activity. That could be discussed at anytime.

As I said many gamergate supporter( including Totalbiscuit) the real issue was game journalism.I can understand the dissonance in opinion here.

So ignore the threats against someone's life because it is inconvenient?

Let the LE act upon it if they deem it to be serious a nd ignore the masess of abuse hollering howler monkeys.

No, the phrase ****-shaming doesn't exist for no reason. The society that high fives men for sleeping around while shaming women for doing the same thing, no.

Yes, **** shming mot definite be more gender neutral

What exactly do you mean by "sex as currency" then?

the allegation of the position and sexual persuasion to pushe/curry favour in order to promote an own inferior product.

The use of sex as a payment method, in this case for reviews.

Oh, I do.

Prove it then.Lets start with explaining your insinuation about my intent.

 

[vinsanity]

Sounds like First World Problems: The Movie.

Exactly

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What pray tell is my angle,then ?You right, I don't gave a a dam about game journalism.

Yeah, but you seem to care about this thread about a woman who was harassed horribly.

As I said many gamergate supporter( including Totalbiscuit) the real issue was game journalism.I can understand the dissonance in opinion here.

I know exactly what Totalbiscuit and others were talking about. There is this thing called a time and a place, especially when your movement is by a large a group of people who decide misogyny is the way to go.

Let the LE act upon it if they deem it to be serious a nd ignore the masess of abuse hollering howler monkeys.

Oh, so ignore it. That makes sense. Especially as we are talking about a women's issue.

Yes, **** shming mot definite be more gender neutral

Oh, yeah. Probably should as for an IP check on ya. This getting dangerously close to Human Torch and ShadowBoxer.

the allegation of the position and sexual persuasion to pushe/curry favour in order to promote an own inferior product.

The use of sex as a payment method, in this case for reviews.

You do know what prostitution is right? Because this is exactly what you are accusing her of, while denying accusing her of it.

Prove it then.Lets start with explaining your insinuation about my intent.

As one who says they don't care about game journalism, your involvement on this subject seems to be your dislike of feminism. Which is exactly my point. The GamerGate movement was never about game journalism, but a group of men who found themselves a platform to complain about women.

 

[Perfect Cell]

Oh, yeah. Probably should as for an IP check on ya. This getting dangerously close to Human Torch and ShadowBoxer.

There was a GamerGate thread in the Community section a while ago. It got closed for obvious reasons, but there was one poster named The End that vigorously defended GamerGate, and it went on and on AND ON. He was eventually banned. Looks like his last visit was in May of this year.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There was a GamerGate thread in the Community section a while ago. It got closed for obvious reasons, but there was one poster named The End that vigorously defended GamerGate, and it went on and on AND ON. He was eventually banned. Looks like his last visit was in May of this year.

And SerialPeacemake was born in June. Well, that explains a lot.

 

[Black Narcissus]

There was a GamerGate thread in the Community section a while ago. It got closed for obvious reasons, but there was one poster named The End that vigorously defended GamerGate, and it went on and on AND ON. He was eventually banned. Looks like his last visit was in May of this year.

I'll check.