George Zimmerman Arrested Again

[Breogan]

Why do you all insist on making this guy a celebrity.
You're obsessed, stop showing you're rummaging through his garbage.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's not about Zimmerman being famous.

It's about what it symbolizes.

Just look at it like an allegory of good and evil.

 

[Muze]

Why do you all insist on making this guy a celebrity.
You're obsessed, stop showing you're rummaging through his garbage.

I'd like to think that it's the same reason that OJ Simpon's name continued to be spoken after the first trial. there's always the possibility that justice will rear its head.

 

[KevanG]

I think that the only justice that guy will get is a brick to the head.

 

[LoganGambit87]

Man who shot at George Zimmerman sentenced to 20 years
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-matthew-apperson-sentence-20161014-story.html

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

He should've stalked Zimmerman for a few blocks and once Zimmerman fought back, shot him dead.

Then he would've been "standing his ground" and considered innocent (assuming he isn't black).

 

[ouroboros]

Then how about thinking it through before you take a life. You don't want guilt don't kill. Was Zimmerman´s life in danger? No. He deserves any misfortune given.

I thought one of the few witnesses to the event testified that one man had the other one down ("ground and pound") and that Zimmerman's injuries supported the narrative that he'd been on the receiving end.

I'm new here, but-- do posters here subscribe to the belief that a person can't be killed from a hand-to-hand beating?

 

[ouroboros]

To me the prosecution team failed badly. They didn't want to try this case. They were forced to do it and it showed in their prosecution of the case.
Some really big things evidence wise imo were glossed over. Like the location of Trayvon's phone in relation to where the body ended up. It clearly indicated that the altercation began further down in between the apartments than where the body ended up. Which to me suggests that Zimmerman lied when he said he went no farther than the "T" in the sidewalk and was then "ambushed" by Martin. Then somehow Martin pulled him about 30 ft from the T to where it ended by punching him in the face and jumping on top of him. The phone was dropped way farther south of even the place where the body was. the T was to the north of there.
Also one witness said they saw Zimmerman get up off the body and walk towards the T where the garbage can was and drop something on the ground. That is where Zimmermans keys/flashlight was found. Was he planting them there to support his story of an ambush?

I truly believe Zimmerman cut Trayvon off. That when Trayvon was talking to the girl and said he thought he had lost Zimmerman ,George was actually south of him by going around the front of those apartments and cut through the middle gap. Seeing Trayvon looking back the other way (north) looking for him and hearing him talking on the phone he was able to sneak up behind him from the south It was there he confronted him and tried to detain him for the cops he had called. He probably had his gun drawn too. Only Trayvon wasn't having any of it. He didn't know who this strange man was. So reflexively he punched him and probably tried to wrestle the gun away from him. That's why his phone was where it was and they wrestled around a bit moving north as they did.

Again only my opinion. I just can't see a guy like Zimmerman entering a dark alley without his pistol at the ready. And in his own words he wanted to make sure this one didn't get away like the others.

You may well be right in your reconstruction, except that I thought it was pretty well established that GZ had drawn the gun from his pocket during the fight. That's one of the main reasons I doubted that GZ followed TM, because I agree that if he thought he was dealing with a break-in artist, he would have had it drawn while stalking him.

 

[Spider-Who?]

I thought one of the few witnesses to the event testified that one man had the other one down ("ground and pound") and that Zimmerman's injuries supported the narrative that he'd been on the receiving end.

I'm new here, but-- do posters here subscribe to the belief that a person can't be killed from a hand-to-hand beating?

People tend to ignore this fact, but yes, Zimmerman shot in self defense. HOWEVER, the law is not so black and white; "self defense" isn't enough to get someone off the hook - you have to look at the situation as a whole. The problem with this case is that Zimmerman *created* the situation where he had to defend himself. HIS actions caused the fight. That fact is what should have gotten the book thrown at him, rendering the self defense claim moot. That is the issue here. He was acquitted because the prosecution failed to lay the cause of the fight on Zimmerman's feet beyond reasonable doubt, unfortunately.

 

[ouroboros]

People tend to ignore this fact, but yes, Zimmerman shot in self defense. HOWEVER, the law is not so black and white; "self defense" isn't enough to get someone off the hook - you have to look at the situation as a whole. The problem with this case is that Zimmerman *created* the situation where he had to defend himself. HIS actions caused the fight. That fact is what should have gotten the book thrown at him, rendering the self defense claim moot. That is the issue here. He was acquitted because the prosecution failed to lay the cause of the fight on Zimmerman's feet beyond reasonable doubt, unfortunately.

But doesn't the idea that he created the situation hinge entirely on whether or not GZ exited his car to follow TM, or whether, as he claimed, he got out only to check the address?

I've reviewed simulations that take both POVs, so I'm not claiming that I know for sure who's right. But from what I remember, the prosecution was overly ambitious in trying to convict GZ for second-degree murder, and that, more than GZ's race, may have made the difference in the lack of a conviction.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

But doesn't the idea that he created the situation hinge entirely on whether or not GZ exited his car to follow TM, or whether, as he claimed, he got out only to check the address?

I've reviewed simulations that take both POVs, so I'm not claiming that I know for sure who's right. But from what I remember, the prosecution was overly ambitious in trying to convict GZ for second-degree murder, and that, more than GZ's race, may have made the difference in the lack of a conviction.

His actions ever since that day prove he was a piece of **** looking to start something.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

But doesn't the idea that he created the situation hinge entirely on whether or not GZ exited his car to follow TM, or whether, as he claimed, he got out only to check the address?

I've reviewed simulations that take both POVs, so I'm not claiming that I know for sure who's right. But from what I remember, the prosecution was overly ambitious in trying to convict GZ for second-degree murder, and that, more than GZ's race, may have made the difference in the lack of a conviction.

The cops told Zimmerman to stay in the car and he completely ignored them so that definitely supports the idea that he was starting trouble.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I'm smelling PBU all over this here thread.

 

[ouroboros]

I'm smelling PBU all over this here thread.

Predominantly Black University?

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Predominantly Black University?

So what about the Superherohype site made you join up and then make most of your first 8 posts in an old thread dedicated to Zimmerman?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So what about the Superherohype site made you join up and then make most of your first 8 posts in an old thread dedicated to Zimmerman?

Its George Zimmerman?