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Yeah I feel like when someone doesn't like a movie like this, give credit where credit is due when, especially towards the visuals.
I'll never understand why some people use the phrase "simple story" as if it's something that automatically detracts from greatness. Most of my favorite films of all-time have simple stories, from No Country for Old Men to Lost in Translation to Children of Men. I'd even go so far as to say that the best stories ARE the simple ones. But regardless, with film, the simplicity of the story isn't what's important; it's how it's executed. And this simple tale is executed amazingly well, imo.
Saw it. Yes, the story was pretty straightforward and clichéd. The performances were solid. What makes this film what it is, too me, is the technical achievement.
"...lackluster film making..."
I get not really liking the movie, but that is some amazing hyperbole.
I've gotta go with a strong 8, leaning towards 8.5.
I know Kubrick has been quoted as saying he was looking for a way to change the very nature of how stories are told and as a goal that's a laudable one. Innovation needs to be there. The problem as I see it is that he changed the form so much that the movie stopped being a movie and more of a moving painting that you'd hang in a museum. And while that may be art, it isn't a movie. A movie requires story, characters, etc. At least that's what's expected from virtually every movie that's ever been made. Somehow, 2001 gets an exception from this and I don't get it at all. Now, to be clear I think Kubrick is one of the best directors of all time but I don't think he was a very good writer.
I'll never understand why some people use the phrase "simple story" as if it's something that automatically detracts from greatness. Most of my favorite films of all-time have simple stories, from No Country for Old Men to Lost in Translation to Children of Men. I'd even go so far as to say that the best stories ARE the simple ones. But regardless, with film, the simplicity of the story isn't what's important; it's how it's executed. And this simple tale is executed amazingly well, imo.
Also Aldrin is a fame ****e, he'll say anything to get in the news
The story may be simple but what exactly was cliched about it?
Just the whole, "This is my first mission" "This is my last mission" thing.
It's a bit been there done that.
Still a really good movie in my eyes. When you can take classic tropes like that and make everything else surrounding them so great that I forget about said tropes, you've done something great.
You might also have to look at their competition respectively. Taken 2 had the 2nd worse monday drop out of its top 10. While Gravity has the 2nd best out of its top 10.