Hawkeye Hawkeye General Discussion Thread

[Fincher]

Wow, can anyone in here believe they announced Hailee Steinfeld's playing Kate today? I'm pretty blown away by that revelation.

Wait, Kate who? You should be careful making announcements like that because people might think she's playing Kate Bishop or something.

 

[Snow Queen]

Wait, Kate who? You should be careful making announcements like that because people might think she's playing Kate Bishop or something.

No, no, sorry, Kate Kane. It was weird they announced it at a Marvel presentation but I guess Disney bought DC when I wasn't looking.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Awesome...snowy New York and Christmas-decorations.
Expect this to be released in December 2021 (because later will be ridiculous with all the Christmas stuff)

If only the producers of Die Hard thought like this instead of releasing their movie eleven days after July 4th. I'm sure otherwise it would have been a hit, what with its X-Mas theme. Shame no one remembers it and that it wasn't a good movie.

 

[Albright]

So it’ll definitely come out around Christmas Time, when Feige said “late 2021”
I assume the start for a six-episode-series in mid November

 

[Iceman]

No, no, sorry, Kate Kane. It was weird they announced it at a Marvel presentation but I guess Disney bought DC when I wasn't looking.

Why weren't you looking? You let your guard down and now look what happens! Also Hailee has been confirmed to be playing Kate Mara as Sue Storm in a MCU remake of Fant4stic called MCUFant4stic.

 

[Web-Head]

 

[Weevils]

Fra Fee is an exciting addition to the MCU. I'm looking forward to seeing his depiction of Clown. He reminds me of Colin Morgan.

 

[KevTravels]

Gotta wonder which of the early shows will get the highest ratings? I'm betting it's between Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Loki.

 

[metaphysician]

Depends entirely on what is meant by "ratings". The traditional Nielsen measures are both nonexistent and irrelevant for subscription streaming services.

 

[C-MC]

they should've cast another actress for Kate Bishop. Hailee Steinfeld sucks at acting

 

[Web-Head]

they should've cast another actress for Kate Bishop. Hailee Steinfeld sucks at acting

I'm assuming you haven't seen her act then

 

[C-MC]

I'm assuming you haven't seen her act then

I have seen a few movies with her, makes me barf

 

[Albright]

Wow 7 posts here - and all with so much substance. Can’t wait for your next...

 

[Web-Head]

 

[Dark Raven]

Was this like these car salesmen who tell you at the last minute that they won't be able to get the model you want after you've paid for it and offer you a lower model instead?

 

[The Infernal]

Yeah, that's a downgrade no matter how you put it. Plus the prospect of Hawkeye training a teen superhero doesn't seem all that interesting.

 

[Albright]

Idk Elisabeth Olsen is getting more attention right now than Gal Gadot...
And I bet she‘ll get more attention than ScarJo no matter if BW is released theatrically or not. 6-8 episodes are 6-8 weeks, when people talk about it. A movie probably creates attention for 3-4 weeks unless it goes into awards recognition

 

[psylockolussus]

Worldwide, I doubt a WW movie is getting more attention than a streaming series. Plenty of countries don't even have a Disney+.

Yeah, that's a downgrade no matter how you put it. Plus the prospect of Hawkeye training a teen superhero doesn't seem all that interesting.

I wish they just gave him a solo film like Black widow.

To me, it is a bit weird out of the siX main Avengers in the 2012 film, Jeremy Renner really got the worst deal.

Also I'm not interested in another legacy character/taking the mantle of an Avenger.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

Honestly, for characters that don't require an insane budget for VFX and locations I think a series is far, far preferable. We just get so much more of them that way and they're much more memorable imo. The Din Djarins of this world will be in the public consciousness way more than the Jyn Ersos and have much more room for interesting character development.

 

[psylockolussus]

It is not about the budget though and you are saying that character development is inferior in movies than tv shows but thats not always the case. Also, I'm sure the general public would choose to watch a 2 hour movie in their nearest theater that they can finish in one seating, over a 4 1/2 hour 8 to 10 episode series that is eXclusive through a specific streaming service. No one I knew that aren't really Marvel fans are talking about WandaVision, some of them know about the upcoming Black Widow/Eternals movie.

This has been the case with Marvel adaptations, and I seriously doubt (how matter good they are) the interest for streaming shows would be higher than a theaterical film. By the time, the 5th Disney+ Marvel is released, I doubt thats going to get buzz as big as the new MCU film. It just won't.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

It is not about the budget though and you are saying that character development is inferior in movies than tv shows but thats not always the case. Also, I'm sure the general public would choose to watch a 2 hour movie in their nearest theater that they can finish in one seating, over a 4 1/2 hour 8 to 10 episode series that is eXclusive through a specific streaming service. No one I knew that aren't really Marvel fans are talking about WandaVision, some of them know about the upcoming Black Widow/Eternals movie.

This has been the case with Marvel adaptations, and I seriously doubt (how matter good they are) the interest for streaming shows would be higher than a theaterical film. By the time, the 5th Disney+ Marvel is released, I doubt thats going to get buzz as big as the new MCU film. It just won't.

I don't know, I've heard much more investment, praise, etc. for the Mandalorian than the new Star Wars movies (especially ones like Rogue One with almost all new characters), even from people who aren't big Star Wars fans. But maybe that's just my own limited perception.

 

[psylockolussus]

I don't know, I've heard much more investment, praise, etc. for the Mandalorian than the new Star Wars movies (especially ones like Rogue One with almost all new characters), even from people who aren't big Star Wars fans. But maybe that's just my own limited perception.

Thats Star Wars though, not Marvel. They aren't the same even if someone has a limited perception. And its not like Mandalorian was the 15th live action Star Wars streaming series. It was the first.

I have watched all episodes of Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Punisher, Iron Fist, Defenders, Inhumans, Legixn, The Gifted, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger and Helstro. None of them got as hype as the latest Marvel movie and they literally just ended without a big anticipation from the masses.

The only reason WandaVision and the other upcoming Marvel streaming shows might get more attention than Black Widow, Shang-Chi and Eternals as of the moment is we are in a pandemic, either theaters are closed or people aren't just going to the cinemas because of covid. But i seriously doubt a 2hr Black Widow film (if released straight through Disney+) isn't going to get more views/clicks than a weekly tv series. And just because its Fiege and Marvel Studios are producing these streaming shows, it doesn't mean itsgoing to attract the people that didn't watch the previous shows.

And as for mcu film actors, people could just choose to wait for their film appearance rather commit to a weekly tv series.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

I have watched all episodes of Agents of Shield, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Punisher, Iron Fist, Defenders, Inhumans, Legixn, The Gifted, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger and Helstro. None of them got as hype as the latest Marvel movie and they literally just ended without a big anticipation from the masses.

The only reason WandaVision and the other upcoming Marvel streaming shows might get more attention than Black Widow, Shang-Chi and Eternals as of the moment is we are in a pandemic, either theaters are closed or people aren't just going to the cinemas because of covid. But i seriously doubt a 2hr Black Widow film (if released straight through Disney+) is going to get more views/clicks than a weekly tv series. And just because its Fiege and Marvel Studios are producing these streaming shows, it doesn't mean itsgoing to attract the people that didn't watch the previous shows.

And as for mcu film actors, people could just choose to wait for their film appearance rather commit to a weekly tv series.

I think the fact that the Disney+ shows have way more integration with the greater MCU, better marketing, a higher budget and a different release format will all contribute to these shows being utterly incomparable with the Marvel Television shows, but we'll see I guess.

 

[psylockolussus]

I think the fact that the Disney+ shows have way more integration with the greater MCU, better marketing, a higher budget and a different release format will all contribute to these shows being utterly incomparable with the Marvel Television shows, but we'll see I guess.

Is Marvel’s ‘WandaVision’ a ‘Mandalorian’-Sized Ratings Hit for Disney+?

Not sure how that article is accurate but WandaVision isn't generating bigger hype than the recent mcu films. Its been 3 weeks and 4 episodes.

Also, if a streaming show could be as big as the movies, then Marvel Studios shouldn't have no problem making a Thor led tv series or a Capt. Marvel tv series. But it ain't happening probably because they think a movie has a bigger audience reach and value. They already greenlit ten live action shows and none of those are featuring the ones that already headlined a mcu movie in a lead role.

If Marvel Studios valued characters like WandaVision, Hawkeye and Moon Knight as much as Iron Man, Thor, Capt. America, Black Panther, Capt. Marvel, Dr. Strange, Deadpool, Ant-Man, Blade and the Fantastic Four. They would have gotten their film. And like you said Hawkeye, doesn't need a huge budget, so a movie should have greenlt for production, and I doubt a character like Shang Chi is only getting a film because of budget constraints. Characters not getting their movies has nothing todo with the budget.

 

[psylockolussus]

The Din Djarins of this world will be in the public consciousness way more than the Jyn Ersos and have much more room for interesting character development.

Jyn Ersos headlined a film that grossed over a billion though. The main reason we aren't seeing her again is because she was killed off in Rogue One and that movie was intended to be a one and done.

While the 2nd/3rd/4th/5th Star Wars streaming show could possibly end up as that Solo film as well.