HULK VS WOLVERINE and HULK VS THOR (no joke)

[YJ1]

You'd think with a Thor movie coming out they'd want to give the character some respect.

I've only watched the Hulk VS Thor because I'm saving the Wolvie tussle for later. I have to agree with all those complaining about Thor going out so easy. I think Marvel is falling in to the "Superman" trap. They're making the Hulk way too strong. Thor did get pummeled through an entire mountain and still got up. The problem with making Hulk that powerful is that he becomes boring and one dimensional, kind of like Superman. Balder and Hogun can bring it and they were nothing but flies to the Hulk. How does that make for an entertaining film for fans of Thor?

 

[Gracen1]

I thought the animation was terrible in hulk vs. wolverine. they had tiny legs and huge upper bodies. I thought rob liefeld's art was mis-proportioned. the animation on tv the last 20 years has looked better. i'm speaking of the spider-man and x-men fox series which wolverine looked the best in. they should've used that look. deadpool was funny but was portrayed too weak. he has taken out wolverine before.

 

[Tony Stark]

I liked both films very much, but I thought Thor v. Hulk was a little rushed and could have used 20-30 more minutes to flesh out what was there. But the writing on both stories was excellent.

I did like the animation in Thor v. Hulk better. I thought it was very beautifully drawn and more fluid. However I have to say that I liked Hulk v. Wolverine a little better. I was laughing my head off the whole time. Deadpool was hillarious, and I'd love to see a spinoff. The only thing I didn't like was how they portrayed Banner.

 

[kenton_supreme]

I agree that THOR should have given hulk a stronger fight.... i dont think thor got a single punch in without using the hammer??.... Thor fought hercules and whipped him w/o his hammer, thor was NOT portrayed in the best light as a warrior unfortunately...but i can let the animation version pass for now due to i KNOW thor will have some epic battles/fights in the live action movie... 2010 IM2 and THOR wow...

That is the Thor I remember. I can accept them swapping wins.

I immensely enjoyed Hulk vs. Wolverine. Great fight scenes, good voice acting and fluid animation.

Hulk vs. Thor on the other hand pissed me off. Thor basically gets his ass handed to him for the majority of the encounter, same goes for the Asgardians in general. The voice acting was average with Thor's being pretty off from what I think he should sound like.

So, ironically, what I was expecting to be the meh of the proceedings I enjoyed and what I was expecting to enjoy turned out to suck.

I agree. Hulk vs Thor was corny. I guess the animators don't like Thor, he gets knocked out in every movie LOL. In Hulk vs Wolverine they were able to knock Hulk out with a sedative. Thor struck him with lightning and still got whooped up.

Hulk vs Wolverine was a better battle.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Well I am not saying it is justified but Thor has got beaten many times by the Hulk often because he wants to box with him rather then use all his other powers.

 

[IDrawDeadPeople]

I never realized until I watched the Vs. Thor portion just how powerful Hulk really is. He is beyond gods. Heck, he is beyond any concieved idea of a god. I'm excited for a new Hulk film, now. I can't wait for the part where he says, "Hulk says let there be light!" and then Hulk sees that it is good. And, then, I'm anxious for Hulk to send a great flood over all the earth, sparing only Noah. Hulk Vs. Thor got me really excited. Now, when I die, I get to go to heaven and see Hulk sitting on his throne, surrounded by angels for all eternity. Hulk is the most powerful there is. Hulk created the universe and all life on earth. I need to up my offering contributions for fear the green almighty will smash me.

 

[Obi-Ron]

Hulk would smash Noah. He's like Marvel's Ditka.

 

[YJ1]

I've only watched the Hulk VS Thor because I'm saving the Wolvie tussle for later.

Holy Crap! I'm glad I saved the best for second. I absolutely loved Hulk VS Wolverine. It's more gritty yet more fun. Six of Marvel's best characters going at it with blood and healing factors cranked up on high is just as good as it gets. Deadpool is hilarious and both Hulk and Logan really bring it.

Hulk vs Wolverine gets a 10/10
Hulk vs Thor gets an 7/10

I honestly can't think of how they could've made Hulk vs Wolverine any better. It's a 35 minute slugfest masterpiece in my book.

Spoiler

FIVE amputations as limbs go flying with Wolverine cutting loose and actually drawing blood in animated form just made me smile. After years of animated Wolvie only being able to claw walls and robots, it's good to see the real Logan cut loose

 

[Tony Stark]

I think the problem with HvT was it needed to be longer. They had alot of great ideas in there, but it more seemed like a road map than a complete story. The animation was beautiful though.

HvW was better paced, and overall more fun. I didn't like the way they portrayed Banner in it though. Banner is an aflicted person and a scientist, he's not a *****.

I agree it's a little rediculous how Thor almost dies fighting the Hulk but apparently Logan is just fine. I get the healing abilities, but if it took him days to heal after fighting Mags it's unrealistic to think he just gets up after having his ass pummeled.

 

[The Question]

Well, that's up for debate. The Asgardians are not Gods, at least not as we define them. They are not immortal, for one, and they do age albeit very slowly, and will eventually succumb to death much like human beings. Their powers, or rather their bodies are not the result of magic either. The comics have presented very rational explanations for their enhanced strength and durability which is due mostly to a denser bone and skin structure than humans. They have advanced metabolisms, yet as far as we can tell still require nurishment. Some accounts place them as descendents from the elder Gods; Gaia, Set and Chthon (father of the vampires). However this does not make them Gods, but rather mortal offshoots who were more advanced than humans, and in effect worshipped like Gods. There is one other potential origin that claims they were Celestial experiments: beings who were shaped by belief. This does have some validity, as belief driven objects have nearly killed Thor in the past, even when weilded by humans (see: The Crusader) and by Aliens (Beta Ray Bill). In addition, Thor's strength has typically been shown as comprable to other Gods (Hercules) but most cosmics outmatch him pretty handily (Silver Surfer) as do some mortals (Juggernaut). So it's entirely up for debate as to whether Thor would best the Hulk, especially considering his varied power levels.

I'm not saying Thor should definitely beat The Hulk. I'm just in the camp that says Thor is definitely a god. None of this mystical alien crap. He may not fit out definition of a god, but he certainly fits many pagan definitions, including (not surprisingly) the Norse pagan traditions. So, he's not an Abrahamic god. He's a pagan Norse god.

 

[blackblt]

Thor, Odin and Hercules are definitely gods. Regardless of how Marvel categorizes them, the fact is Marvel did not make these characters up like the rest of their universe, they were here in our mythology long before Marvels first character was born. Now they may choose to make them age and eat and struggle with mortals, but in a real fight Hulk would get his lunch handed to him. And don't make me laugh about Silver Surfer....and Juggernaut.....you're kidding right?

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Yeah, ya know I would think the last thing he said was "ahh, Sabertooth, ahh!"

hahahaha

I much prefer the old school look Wolverine has in this as opposed to his Astonishing look on the current show. Classic look and I think the black instead of blue really makes a difference.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm not saying Thor should definitely beat The Hulk. I'm just in the camp that says Thor is definitely a god. None of this mystical alien crap. He may not fit out definition of a god, but he certainly fits many pagan definitions, including (not surprisingly) the Norse pagan traditions. So, he's not an Abrahamic god. He's a pagan Norse god.

Well anyone remotely familiar with Norse Gods can tell you Thor is definitely not a reiteration of the one described in myth, not even his powers are the same really. As for "mystical alien", well I guess he's not an alien since no Marvel canon states he comes from another planet, but he's not a God either (they're more like Eternals and Deviants). He's very mortal, very killable and very much a carbon based organic life form. He's no more a God than Silver Surfer or the Eternals. Thor's godhood is entirely illusory.

Hell, they can technically be killed by certain man-made weapons.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Thor, Odin and Hercules are definitely gods. Regardless of how Marvel categorizes them, the fact is Marvel did not make these characters up like the rest of their universe...

But they did. I mean technically, by that foolish logic, Dragonball Z didn't "make up" Goku since he clearly is inspired from myth. Marvel most certainly made Thor up, whether they based it on an existing character is moot at best. Cyclops, Magneto, Xavier, and even Hal Jordan were based on real life people, as a matter of fact, that doesn't mean the characters themselves are not original Marvel characters. Marvel U does not classify Thor as an actual God, there is only one actual "God" in the Marvel Universe, then several cosmic dieties of which Thor is not a part of.

 

[The Question]

Well anyone remotely familiar with Norse Gods can tell you Thor is definitely not a reiteration of the one described in myth, not even his powers are the same really. As for "mystical alien", well I guess he's not an alien since no Marvel canon states he comes from another planet, but he's not a God either (they're more like Eternals and Deviants). He's very mortal, very killable and very much a carbon based organic life form. He's no more a God than Silver Surfer or the Eternals. Thor's godhood is entirely illusory.

Hell, they can technically be killed by certain man-made weapons.

I meant his powers and physical nature fit the description of Norse gods, in general, in the Norse pagan traditions. Besides, while Thor has been proven to be a physical being, and some of his powers can be described in physical terms, it's also been noted that there is a metaphysical components to his existence in the comics several times, specifically the current Thor run.

 

[Obi-Ron]

I just watched the "Making of" feature on Hulk vs. Wolverine.
It was a really good feature, recommended if you liked the movie. Two things that stand out:
1) Jeff Matsuda's concept drawings were absolutely jaw-dropping, and it's a shame they didn't translate better to the finished product. I hope the drawings are collected in some sort of printed fashion at some point.
2) Damn nice to see non-celebrity voice actors getting some respect for a change.

 

[Sawyer]

I just watched the "Making of" feature on Hulk vs. Wolverine.
It was a really good feature, recommended if you liked the movie. Two things that stand out:
1) Jeff Matsuda's concept drawings were absolutely jaw-dropping, and it's a shame they didn't translate better to the finished product. I hope the drawings are collected in some sort of printed fashion at some point.
2) Damn nice to see non-celebrity voice actors getting some respect for a change.

Well, to be fair, the past few Marvel dtvs using non-celebrity voice-overs (which have been all of them) werent really anything to write home about. At least IMO.

 

[Obi-Ron]

Yeah, but it's nice to see some actual "Voice Actors" get props for their work.

 

[Sawyer]

Yeah, but it's nice to see some actual "Voice Actors" get props for their work.

Very true.

 

[Nivek]

I've only watched the Hulk VS Thor because I'm saving the Wolvie tussle for later. I have to agree with all those complaining about Thor going out so easy. I think Marvel is falling in to the "Superman" trap. They're making the Hulk way too strong. Thor did get pummeled through an entire mountain and still got up. The problem with making Hulk that powerful is that he becomes boring and one dimensional, kind of like Superman. Balder and Hogun can bring it and they were nothing but flies to the Hulk. How does that make for an entertaining film for fans of Thor?

Wow. But man, that is the Hulk. "The Strongest One Their IS"! Thor is a Demi-god, Hulk is a Bomb on two legs. That's the characters deal. Besides, Thor gives as good as he gets.

 

[jab1118]

Thor, Odin and Hercules are definitely gods. Regardless of how Marvel categorizes them, the fact is Marvel did not make these characters up like the rest of their universe, they were here in our mythology long before Marvels first character was born. Now they may choose to make them age and eat and struggle with mortals, but in a real fight Hulk would get his lunch handed to him. And don't make me laugh about Silver Surfer....and Juggernaut.....you're kidding right?

Exactly how would we go about having Hulk and Thor have a real fight your aware there ficticious right? But seriously I cant satnd reading all these complaints about how can Hulk beat Thor Thor is stronger. Says who? Because he calls himself a god? And you know what Hulk can beat Thor because marvel said so thats why. Its there characters they decide who beats who and it changes through time. There just making this **** up. If tommorrow they say Cyclops power beam has evolved and can now detsroy galaxies with a single blast then thats the way it is. None of this is set in stone. But I do agree that they should have the hulk lose a some fights now and again it is boreing

 

[redlion2]

As I've earlier stated I liked both films. To me vs. Thor had a better story with it's underlying theme of what is a hero.

I like both characters (Hulk and Thor) about equally so there's no bias on my part but does anyone think Hulk's dominance over Thor had more to do with the fact that Banner had been removed from Hulk and Thor was facing pure rage Hulk? Thor was actually holding his own until Loki lost control from the lightning attack and rage incarnate Hulk was left.

Just saying....

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Exactly how would we go about having Hulk and Thor have a real fight your aware there ficticious right? But seriously I cant satnd reading all these complaints about how can Hulk beat Thor Thor is stronger. Says who? Because he calls himself a god? And you know what Hulk can beat Thor because marvel said so thats why. Its there characters they decide who beats who and it changes through time. There just making this **** up. If tommorrow they say Cyclops power beam has evolved and can now detsroy galaxies with a single blast then thats the way it is. None of this is set in stone. But I do agree that they should have the hulk lose a some fights now and again it is boreing

Stan Lee says who, that's who. He created Thor to be the most powerful hero in the M.U. But all these writers with bias in favour of Hulk just write him as an indestructible, can beat anyone he wants machine. It's getting really tiresome. And to be honest, I don't even see the big deal about Hulk, i've never found him that interesting. Ohh weedy lab scientist turns into angry giant when he loses his temper! WOW!! That's so interesting.

 

[Gracen1]

Stan Lee says who, that's who. He created Thor to be the most powerful hero in the M.U. But all these writers with bias in favour of Hulk just write him as an indestructible, can beat anyone he wants machine. It's getting really tiresome. And to be honest, I don't even see the big deal about Hulk, i've never found him that interesting. Ohh weedy lab scientist turns into angry giant when he loses his temper! WOW!! That's so interesting.

right on brother! thor owns the only knock out and the only kill that happened in the "reigning" arc. all done without the thorforce and it's all in continuity.

 

[November Rain]

I probably think more people would be happy to see the hulk put down by thor than not these days...

Thor needs his dues...