If you weren't already aware that Men's Rights activists are scumbags...

[chamber-music]

Staunch proponent of "legal rape."

WTF?

Sounds like the kind of guy that shouldn't be allowed within a hundred feet of any women.

Apparently on twitter almost every man in Glasgow threatened to kick the s*** out of him if he comes to the city on his tour. Roosh said he received more violent threats from there than any other city. God Bless those Glaswegians.

 

[Pink Ranger]

WTF?

Sounds like the kind of guy that shouldn't be allowed within a hundred feet of any women.

Apparently on twitter almost every man in Glasgow threatened to kick the s*** out of him if he comes to the city on his tour. Roosh said he received more violent threats from there than any other city. God Bless those Glaswegians.

Although to be perfectly honest, if you announced that you were going to Glasgow to give everyone free cookies and money, you'd still get violent threats from Glaswegians.

 

[Marvolo]

WTF?

Sounds like the kind of guy that shouldn't be allowed within a hundred feet of any women.

Apparently on twitter almost every man in Glasgow threatened to kick the s*** out of him if he comes to the city on his tour. Roosh said he received more violent threats from there than any other city. God Bless those Glaswegians.

I have a new found respect for Glasgow and its citizens.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Many men with maybe a form Aspergers attending maybe

For the love of god, don't lump those of us with Aspergers in with those pieces of human garbage to any degree whatsoever.

 

[dude stannis]

Is there any reason not to shoot this guy in the stomach and leave him in the woods for his scent to attract wild animals?

And I agree with Greens. There's an inherently decent idea behind 'Men's Rights', there's men out there who are victims of spousal abuse from their female or male partner, there's men out there who have zero access to see their children because the courts will automatically take the mothers side. There needs to be a support system. But much like every other movement it's been hijacked by scum who are racist and sexist and want the attention on themselves.

 

[chamber-music]

Roosh cancelled all his meet ups in Canada, the U.S and UK for safety reasons (people were going to beat the life out of him).

 

[Greens]

Roosh cancelled all his meet ups in Canada, the U.S and UK for safety reasons (people were going to beat the life out of him).

Hold on, this is about Roosh V? He's been a known ******* for years. He runs a YouTube channel where he gives advice about "picking up girls" which pretty much amounts to being a creepy stalker and coaxing them into having sex with you.

 

[jokesonm3]

Pro-Rape Meetup Canceled After Women’s Boxing Club Threatens to Show Up.
By Jessica Roy

Professional *****ebag Roosh V. has made a name for himself advocating offensive misogynistic positions on his terrible website Return of Kings, and he's collected a handful of devoted followers in the process. But after scheduling an International Meetup Day for his "tribesmen" this weekend, he appears to have met his match: female boxers.

When they heard that Roosh and his followers were planning to meet up in Toronto, the women of the Toronto Newsgirls boxing club decided they'd attend the meet-up, too. That way when Roosh did what he threatened to do — take photos of any female protesters who showed up to dissect and criticize online later — he'd actually be snapping photos of badass *****es in boxing gloves.

"The photos of us will show women that being powerful is an option," founder Savoy Howe told Metro News. "And I think that’s what needs to happen against this d*****bag."

After word of the Newsgirls' plans spread, Roosh decided to cancel the meet-ups, writing that he can "no longer guarantee the safety or privacy of the men who want to attend."

Imagine feeling unsafe in a public space, or afraid to have your privacy violated. As a woman, I have no idea what that must be like.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/02/pro-rape-meet-up-canceled-over-safety-concerns.html#

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

He's not a MRA, he's a "Men are superior to women based solely on their gender" activist

Here's the thing, the positive things that should be what MRA's be concerned about absolutely is not what the vast majority with the title talk about.

Same with modern feminism. Some are men-haters who damage their movements intentions like this fool is doing for Men

And I agree with Greens. There's an inherently decent idea behind 'Men's Rights', there's men out there who are victims of spousal abuse from their female or male partner, there's men out there who have zero access to see their children because the courts will automatically take the mothers side. There needs to be a support system. But much like every other movement it's been hijacked by scum who are racist and sexist and want the attention on themselves.

Bingo. Men, like women, are screwed over by society in certain areas and it shouldn't be permitted, thats what MRA is really for

 

[KevanG]

I think he should have showed up to everywhere anyway despite the threats. He can show how 'persuasive' he is to a hundred fists.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

As a man I see no need for a male rights movement.

Are there disadvantages to being a man socially? Maybe a couple.

But globally women have it much, much worse.

 

[KevanG]

There are few places in the world where being male isn't advantageous. There are a ****ton of places where it's terrible to be a woman.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

As a man I see no need for a male rights movement.

Are there disadvantages to being a man socially? Maybe a couple..

Men often serve more time for the same crimes
90% of the homeless are men.
Men aren't as likely to get custody
Men who are abused by their significant others aren't taken as seriously as the reverse and have probably a tenth of the resources to seek help
Men can lose their jobs and reputations in false rape accusations without proof and remain stigmatised after being declared innocent
Men who fight back when being assaulted by a woman are judged more harshly than the attacking woman.
Women are more likely to be accepted into higher education.
Sexualisation of men isn't seen as an issue despite increasing rates in body dismorphia amongst boys and teens
More male suicides each year than women
Much more men die in prisons each year than women
Women aren't included in the draft, only men.
When including prison statistics more men are raped each year in the states than women, Jokes are made of it
Cancer awareness for testicular cancer is virtually non-existent compared to the huge media presence of breast cancer

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Men serve more time for the same crimes

A 2009 study suggested women are sentenced less harshly because they carry greater caretaking responsibility than their male counterparts. Which seems fair. If a woman is a sole caretaker of multiple children it would do more harm than good to lock her up for longer.

Men aren't as likely to get custody

You're assuming men fight for full custody just as much women.

Men who are abused by their significant others aren't taken as seriously as the gender reversal and have probably a tenth of the resources to seek help

If women were bigger, stronger, more violent and more often the head of household then I'm sure men would be the ones with more resources.

Men can lose their jobs and reputations in false rape accusations without proof and remain stigmatised after being declared innocent

Anyone who is falsely accused faces stigmas if the alleged crime is serious.

Men who fight back when being assaulted by a woman are judged more harshly than the attacking woman.

It's a slippery slope to let men use the "she started it" defense. Too many men would use a woman pushing or slapping them to beat the living crap out of a woman half their size. Again, men are bigger, stronger and more violent than women generally speaking. So it's very dangerous to tell men it's okay to use violence against women.

Women are more likely to be accepted into higher education.

I need some proof of this. I know women are more likely to seek out higher education.

Sexualisation of men isn't seen as an issue despite increasing rates in body dismorphia amongst boys and teens

Isn't dismorphia far more common in young girls?

Much more men die in prisons each year than women
When including prison statistics more men are raped each year in the states than women, Jokes are made of it

I agree rape is never funny considering there are plenty of men who were raped that didn't deserve it. However the male prison population is huge so while I'm opposed to anyone being raped, I'm not opposed to rape rumors working as a deterrent against to crime.

Cancer awareness for testicular cancer is virtually non-existent compared to the huge media presence of breast cancer

I'm pretty sure breast cancer kills way more people.

 

[dude stannis]

Just stop. Can we unite against the rapists please?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Just stop. Can we unite against the rapists please?

Nope, still trying to figure out why men need rights activist.

 

[Teelie]

I'm having difficulty finding this is legitimate. It's so outrageous and stupid it has to be either fake or a publicity stunt.

From what I have read this is a publicity stunt by this ******* Roosh who is looking for page hits and noterity. This is his thing. He makes inciting comments that get people angry and then feeds off the reprisals.

Doing some simple research shows it's false. At least according to Snopes.

So an overblown claim made by disreputable MRA activist turned into something even more dispicable because some other people exaggerated the intent of his "rally."

Whatever his true cause is it has nothing to do with men's rights or anyone else's. Just like Gamergate they put on a veneer of legitimacy to an otherwise mysognistic movement.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Nope, still trying to figure out why men need rights activist.

Everyone needs something on their side. It doesn't matter "who has it worse", anyone facing problems should have a support system. We are all humans and should be treated equally.

Also abuse in relationships can also be psychological, I've encountered men who have been manipulated, used and emotionally broken by their significant others.

 

[Donner]

Men's Rights feels like it would be on the same level as White Rights.

I'm not saying it isn't necessary, but creating a group like this acting as though men are losing out in society is just laughable, if not downright ludicrous.

 

[The Endless]

It shouldn't be about who is losing out in society. These "movements" whatever you wanna call them, should be about support. Everyone, male or female, gay or straight, black or white, needs support sometimes.

Just because men are generally bigger and stronger it doesn't mean domestic abuse or violence can't be perpetrated against men. There should be more awareness and support for male victims, for example.

That said yes like most "movements" or whatever you wanna call them, they are usually hijacked by dick heads with their own insidious agendas.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

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A 2009 study suggested women are sentenced less harshly because they carry greater caretaking responsibility than their male counterparts. Which seems fair. If a woman is a sole caretaker of multiple children it would do more harm than good to lock her up for longer.

So a woman has a get out of jail free card because her gender enables her to have kids more easily than men? Just because a woman has a child doesn't mean laws should favour her and sentencing more lenient. Relatives can care for the child, the father can, the state can or adopted parents who aren't criminals can.

What would be more harmful is leaving kids with a criminal parent, regardless of gender.

You're assuming men fight for full custody just as much women.

Who knows if they don't and even if they dont should the majority of what other men do affect a father who does want to be in his child's life and take care of them? It'd be hugely sexist for a judge to say "sorry because other men don't want to look after their children you won't be permitted to"

If women were bigger, stronger, more violent and more often the head of household then I'm sure men would be the ones with more resources.

Sorry but that's just sexist. Men suffer 40% of domestic abuse. It's not okay just because women suffer 60%. And domestic abuse isn't just violence but psychological and emotional abuse, and men's strength means nothing as many men don't defend themselves against a violent partner as they were taught never to hit a woman.

Anyone who is falsely accused faces stigmas if the alleged crime is serious.

Duke rape scandal. Men dragged across the coals with death threat, arrest, ruined reputations ect. When it was revealed the woman lied she "faced no charges for her false accusations"

The media went on about the case for weeks when the woman was the victim but when revealed to be a liar the men, who were the victims, got a few days of vindication coverage. And even after the fact some still harassed them, refusing to accept their innocence. That's just one example.

Things are getting better since then and those who lie with false accusations are being punished, but not nearly enough in severity to discourage others or as recompense for the ruined lives.

It's a slippery slope to let men use the "she started it" defense. Too many men would use a woman pushing or slapping them to beat the living crap out of a woman half their size. Again, men are bigger, stronger and more violent than women generally speaking. So it's very dangerous to tell men it's okay to use violence against women.

This is akin to victim blaming and generalisation of all men as brutes. Putting more blame on the defender than the attacker. If a woman assaults a man shes not a victim if he defends himself within reason

There's the usage of reasonable force under the law. A person can defend themselves regardless of gender but only using reasonable force but not excessive force.

Men shouldn't be singled out for using reasonable force but they often are because "women are weak and men are strong". Instead of teaching men not to defend themselves teach women they can't get away with assaulting men with impunity because of their gender

If a man or woman uses excessive force in defence then he or she should be dealt with by the law but there's a double standard for reasonable force between men and women defenders.

Isn't dismorphia far more common in young girls?

Yes but that's irrelevant. It's not a 'women suffer more than men' argument it's a 'men suffer as well so shouldn't be ignored just because it's not as much as women' point.

Men's rights isn't about taking away women's rights it's about men and women being treated equally under the law and socially.

There are areas where men aren't equal and so should have a organisation to raise awareness and fight for equality. It's just as valid as feminism.

I'm pretty sure breast cancer kills way more people.

I checked and you're indeed correct, so it does make sense for more awareness as its more common.

Everyone needs something on their side. It doesn't matter "who has it worse", anyone facing problems should have a support system. We are all humans and should be treated equally.

Also abuse in relationships can also be psychological, I've encountered men who have been manipulated, used and emotionally broken by their significant others.

Exactly

That said yes like most "movements" or whatever you wanna call them, they are usually hijacked by dick heads with their own insidious agendas.

Yep, this is exactly what this tool is doing. Besmirching the principles with his misogyny

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

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So a woman has a get out of jail free card because her gender enables her to have kids more easily than men? Just because a woman has a child doesn't mean laws should favour her and sentencing more lenient. Relatives can care for the child, the father can, the state can or adopted parents who aren't criminals can.

What would be more harmful is leaving kids with a criminal parent, regardless of gender.



Who knows if they don't and even if they dont should the majority of what other men do affect a father who does want to be in his child's life and take care of them? It'd be hugely sexist for a judge to say "sorry because other men don't want to look after their children you won't be permitted to"



Sorry but that's just sexist. Men suffer 40% of domestic abuse. It's not okay just because women suffer 60%. And domestic abuse isn't just violence but psychological and emotional abuse, and men's strength means nothing as many men don't defend themselves against a violent partner as they were taught never to hit a woman.



Duke rape scandal. Men dragged across the coals with death threat, arrest, ruined reputations ect. When it was revealed the woman lied she "faced no charges for her false accusations"

The media went on about the case for weeks when the woman was the victim but when revealed to be a liar the men, who were the victims, got a few days of vindication coverage. And even after the fact some still harassed them, refusing to accept their innocence. That's just one example.

Things are getting better since then and those who lie with false accusations are being punished, but not nearly enough in severity to discourage others or as recompense for the ruined lives.



This is akin to victim blaming and generalisation of all men as brutes. Putting more blame on the defender than the attacker. If a woman assaults a man shes not a victim if he defends himself within reason

There's the usage of reasonable force under the law. A person can defend themselves regardless of gender but only using reasonable force but not excessive force.

Men shouldn't be singled out for using reasonable force but they often are because "women are weak and men are strong". Instead of teaching men not to defend themselves teach women they can't get away with assaulting men with impunity because of their gender

If a man or woman uses excessive force in defence then he or she should be dealt with by the law but there's a double standard for reasonable force between men and women defenders.



Yes but that's irrelevant. It's not a 'women suffer more than men' argument it's a 'men suffer as well so shouldn't be ignored just because it's not as much as women' point.

Men's rights isn't about taking away women's rights it's about men and women being treated equally under the law and socially.

There are areas where men aren't equal and so should have a organisation to raise awareness and fight for equality. It's just as valid as feminism.



I checked and you're indeed correct, so it does make sense for more awareness as its more common.



Exactly



Yep, this is exactly what this tool is doing. Besmirching the principles with his misogyny

I'll put it like this. I'm not saying males are never victims but when you have it better than everybody else it seems like your trivializing the struggles of those with less advantages than you, not to mention attacking the few advantages those groups have to make your privilaged existence even more ideal.

It's like a wealthy family complaining about poor families getting a scholarship to an Ivy league college over their kid.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I'll put it like this. I'm not saying males are never victims but when you have it better than everybody else it seems like your trivializing the struggles of those with less advantages than you, not to mention attacking the few advantages those groups have to make your privilaged existence even more ideal.

It's like country club members complaining about 10% higher taxes while their workers are struggling to survive.

Men should not be grouped into one category. In western countries, men don't ALL have it better than women.

Also, the "there are those worse off than you" argument gets ridiculous after a point. If we continue using it, nobody will be able to complain about ANYTHING because there is always somebody worse off. Acknowledging that others have problems worse than yours does not make your own problems go away. It's like telling someone with anorexia (and hence body problems) that there are those in the world that can't afford food and those with worse body problems - it won't solve a thing.

I feel like a lot of people think there is some sort of "privilege scale" to determine who has the right to complain about their issues.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Men should not be grouped into one category. In western countries, men don't ALL have it better than women.

Also, the "there are those worse off than you" argument gets ridiculous after a point. If we continue using it, nobody will be able to complain about ANYTHING because there is always somebody worse off. Acknowledging that others have problems worse than yours does not make your own problems go away. It's like telling someone with anorexia (and hence body problems) that there are those in the world that can't afford food and those with worse body problems - it won't solve a thing.

I feel like a lot of people think there is some sort of "privilege scale" to determine who has the right to complain about their issues.

Anorexics typically don't demand advantages at the expense of people who can't afford food.

That's what MRA's do. They want better custody rights, the right to hit women, less child support obligations, more preference in higher education at the expense of the lesser advantaged (women).

 

[dude stannis]

I'm not sure how a suppourt system for male victims or rape and abuse comes at the expense of anyone.