Is Hillary Clinton on her 9th life?

[Taarna]

I say it's 70% likely. She's likely to lose Iowa and Hew Hampshire to Bernie Sanders!

But that doesn't begin to describe her political jeopardy. Her email scandal is going to be the coup de grace. Not only will she have to answer very damaging questions, they could also drag others into a similar position.

With the brand is at stake, we might see exit strategy as soon as March 2016 to minimize the collateral damage to the party. The uglier it gets, the easier it will be for the Republicans to win the WhiteHouse, and possibly spill over to Congressional races.

We might see somehting like this:

Perhaps an excuse of illness, combined with a Padron / Executive order to seal the emails for " national security reasons ". Oh, the irony! This way Hillary does not need to plead the 5th.

On Hillary's side, there will be an understanding that to exit quietly without dragging ANYONE into the email mess, along with a pre-determined reply to anyone asking about it.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ampaign-live-iowa-new-hampshire-trump-sanders

 

[Chip Chipperson]

she'll worm her way out of it like the manipulative narcissist she is

 

[Taarna]

she'll worm her way out of it like the manipulative narcissist she is

I think not. Trump has already placed her on an uncomfortable defensive on women's rights, thanks to Bill.

Sanders is surging while Clinton despite an army of resources and money is fading fast.

We have all see politicians caught off mike saying bad things or something stupid. Well, an email assumed private is likely very much the same.

Clinton's initial attempt with the cover up / stonewall did not work. When the truth comes out, we'll see a true Lady MacBeth type in the flesh.

 

[Matt]

In a word, no. She is on her 8th life. Her 9th life will be in November.

The Democratic Party isn't going to force her out. They realize they have no viable alternative (in other words Bernie Sanders is not a viable general election candidate).

Plus, Clinton will win Iowa. And even if she doesn't, Sanders has no strategy for after New Hampshire. He seems to hope that winning those states will break the Clintons' hold over southern, middle, and rustbelt states. It won't. South Carolina is evident of that. Despite Bernie's "surge" in Iowa and New Hampshire, he not only remains woefully behind Clinton (30 points or more)...he is dropping in the polls.

Beyond that, she doesn't need a pardon so that won't be used to incentivize her to get out of the race. The Executive Branch/PresidentObama controls the Justice Department. The Congressional committees can flap their gums all they want, but they cannot mandate the DOJ to indict her. Obama isn't going to indict his former Secretary of State for a scandal that happened during his watch. Especially when the scandal is, in essence, simply using a private email server. The people who keep saying that an indictment is forthcoming are former United States Attorneys from the Bush DOJ. They are political appointees spewing venom at the opponent. An indictment is not forthcoming.

If it does somehow get worse and an indictment does come, she will duck out. But it won't give Bernie Sanders the nomination. More likely than not Hillary will still get the nod. She is already filed for every state's ballot. Democrats will see it as a political lynching. If anything, it will help her numbers. The best her campaign did against Obama was when it looked like she was being victimized, after all.

If she refuses to accept the nomination, which will happen if she is indicted, you will see a floor nomination. Probably Joe Biden, who will reluctantly accept. Maybe John Kerry if Biden is completely opposed. Al Gore as a long shot but possible. In essence, someone who is a party elder who has already been publicly vetted through a national campaign and has name recognition and infrastructure in place. At that point it will become, to the party, about preparing for 2018 and 2020.

So in summary, Clinton will only duck out in a very extreme circumstance, because even if she does have difficulty in Iowa and New Hampshire, it doesn't change the landscape and Bernie still does not play in later states. An indictment would be the only thing that derails her campaign at this point and since Obama controls whether or not the indictment comes down, it is unlikely. Even if an indictment happens, it does nothing for Sanders. There is a reason that, despite Clinton's extreme vulnerability, he is getting no party support. He is not viable. And the party knows that. A Sanders nomination leads to a 45-48 state embarrassment in November and a **** ton of house and Senate losses as the Democratic Party is suddenly painted as pinko commies. Therefore, there is even less incentive for the party to pressure Obama to indict Clinton.

Simply put, she is on her 8th life. Her 9th will be in November and whether she survives it depends on who is ultimately nominated by the GOP.

 

[SV Fan]

Clinton will win(in the primary) a bulk of the States Romney won in 2012 plus at least 50% of the Obama States. That should be more then enough to get her over the top

 

[Matt]

I think not. Trump has already placed her on an uncomfortable defensive on women's rights, thanks to Bill.

Sanders is surging while Clinton despite an army of resources and money is fading fast.

We have all see politicians caught off mike saying bad things or something stupid. Well, an email assumed private is likely very much the same.

Clinton's initial attempt with the cover up / stonewall did not work. When the truth comes out, we'll see a true Lady MacBeth type in the flesh.

Clinton isn't fading. That is a myth. She holds a 15-25 % lead nationally. She holds a 10-15 % lead in Iowa (a couple of favorable polls for Sanders from less than credible pollsters are skewing the aggregate, but Clinton continues to lead in every credible poll by a reasonable margin...media doesn't report that part because it shows how noncompetitive the race really is and that isn't good for ratings). Sanders only shot at winning Iowa comes from gaming the caucus system, which is certainly possible. But it still does nothing long term. Clinton's lead in the South, middle states, and rust belt, as well as delegate strong holds like Texas, New York, and California remain untouchable. Even with an Iowa/NH win...Sanders doesn't have the resources, strategy, or electability to build upon it.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I agree this will be her last race. But I don't see Bernie pulling off a victory against her. She has the corporate media, Wall Street, and the Democratic Party backing her. Debbie Wassermann-Schultz has done everything short of slashing the tires ofBernie Sanders' campaign bus in an attempt to get Hillary the nomination

The Republican party is on the verge of nominating a racist reality TV star to be their candidate. They're ruining their own chances.

 

[Taarna]

Clinton will win(in the primary) a bulk of the States Romney won in 2012 plus at least 50% of the Obama States. That should be more than enough to get her over the top

Many thought 1 month ago Iowa was in the bag for Clinton. Sanders is not only rising, the liberal media types who once thought he can't win are ready to open up their wallets and use their influence help him.

Clinton has taken so much money domestically and aboard, it's hurting her. Who wants a politician this in with the banks and such? The Joe average democratic voter seems 15th in line from Clinton.

And the Email bomb can go off at any time.

 

[Taarna]

I agree this will be her last race. But I don't see Bernie pulling off a victory against her. She has the corporate media, Wall Street, and the Democratic Party backing her. Debbie Wassermann-Schultz has done everything short of slashing the tires ofBernie Sanders' campaign bus in an attempt to get Hillary the nomination

The Republican party is on the verge of nominating a racist reality TV star to be their candidate. They're ruining their own chances.

Many didn't see Obama beating Clinton either. Wassermann-Schultz is a lap dog for Obama. Depending how things shake out, Obama could leave Clinton twisting in the wind.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Many didn't see Obama beating Clinton either. Wassermann-Schultz is a lap dog for Obama. Depending how things shake out, Obama could leave Clinton twisting in the wind.

I can definitely see this happening. It'll certainly be strange to see him endorse Clinton after thwomping her in 2008.

 

[Taarna]

Sanders is now tied with Clinton in Nevada according to polls.

That's the next primary for the Dems. I think there is a shift of key voting areas for Sanders, they are the young voters and the minorities balancing from Hillary.

 

[Mysteryman]

Personally, I think Hilary is on life 2035.
I do not think that she is going anywhere.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

When Clinton v2.0 is eventually decommissioned, Clinton v3.0 will step up and take the throne.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-chelsea-campaigns-to-empty-seats-in-cleveland/

 

[Tilapia]

Get Chelsea in there. Always had a thing for her. Let's revert this thing to a Monarchy. God save the Clintons'. What are my Royal Baby's up to?

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Almost there already.

'A lot of people left because she was there': Chelsea Clinton accused of being 'difficult' and unpleasant by Clinton Foundation staff - and her entourage is almost as big as her father's
Many senior level staff have left since she became vice-chairman in 2011
Some forced to leave if they fall out of favour and are replaced by cronies
Has a personal staff of five when her father, former president, only has six
Critics claim the organisation is bloated and needs official investigation

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ea-Clinton-entourage-nearly-big-father-s.html

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

The Final 1,700 Hillary Clinton Emails Were Just Released — And One Was Not

https://news.vice.com/article/the-f...eleased-and-one-was-not?utm_source=vicenewsfb

State Department spokesman John Kirby told reporters Monday that one email was being withheld at the request of an unnamed law enforcement agency, but that no other emails were classified Secret or Top Secret. He noted that one email, previously classified Top Secret by the Intelligence Community Inspector General, was downgraded to Secret. The email pertains to North Korea's nuclear program.

"The State Department has been actively engaged in discussion with the intelligence community about this document since last year," Kirby said. "Based on subsequent review, the intelligence community revised its earlier assessment and asked the State Department to upgrade a limited amount of information in this document to the 'Secret' level, not the 'Top Secret' level. The original assessment was not correct and the document does not contain 'Top Secret' information."

One email released Monday was sent to Clinton on January 25, 2013 by her longtime confidante Sidney Blumenthal. It concerns "internal Libya security deliberations" and the information is based on "sources with direct access to the Libyan National Government, as well as the highest levels of European Governments, and Western Intelligence and security services.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

She's not on her 8th or 9th life.

She's going to be her party's nominee and as it looks now, the next President of the US.

She'll need many more lives to run that operation and seek a second term.

 

[Chance Jackson]

She's not on her 8th or 9th life.

She's going to be her party's nominee and as it looks now, the next President of the US.

You like her chances at beating Trump?

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

You like her chances at beating Trump?

Yes. I don't see how Trump wins many moderates. He may not even get all Republicans to vote for him either.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Good god I love this Chrome extension.

 

[Taarna]

Clinton on her emails:

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/clinton-on-possibility-of-email-indictment-its-030611298.html

Clinton answered the first part by repeating what she has said on previous occasions — that the emails were not classified when she sent them, and that she did not need to ask anyone for permission because there were no restrictions on the practice when she took office. “If you get indicted, would you drop out?” Ramos asked again.

“Oh for goodness sake,” Clinton replied. “It’s not going to happen. I’m not even answering that question.”


My take: Notice how Clinton says it! She took the security labels of ( Secret, Top security, Special privilege access ) before she sent classified emails. But they were classified!

What we have here is shady lawyer talk. I hope the next reports asks her did you remove any classification levels before sending emails! Yes or no!

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids/

Clinton apologizes for calling Nancy Reagan a 'very effective, low-key' AIDS advocate

So this hit bigger in the LGBT community than even I expected (and I live in northern california). Now granted, the LGBT community is a very small percentage of the vote, but everyone who sides with their plight may widen their eyes at this. I foresee this making the rounds straight through Tuesday.

This, of course, won't be the nail in the coffin for HRC. But perhaps one of these slips should eventually be.