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James Franco Aquires the Rights to "The Disaster Artist"

I can't really say how good or bad Dave is, mostly because I'm unfamiliar with the source material book and only know Tommy and Greg from film itself. That just made Tommy's shocking behavior towards Lisa's actress all the more grotesque.

There's a fair amount of critique towards how we don't get super deep into why Tommy is the way he is and his behavior is just attributed towards being Tommy Wiseau, but I think the film did a good job of focusing on Greg and Tommy's relationship, and I personally felt as if we really saw the negative effects of Tommy and Greg's relationship.

The movie had a lot of heart though. Franco deserves all the hype. I wouldn't consider it near the cream of the crop of this year's Oscar class (Lady Bird, Florida Project, Three Billboards, Shape of Water) but this is definitely one of the year's best films.
 
I finally am going to get to see this on Saturday :up:
 
FINALLY saw this! It was great! Personally, I didn't have any problems with Dave's acting.
 
I definitely found him the weak link. Not terrible, but not too good either.
 
Sort of a case where all the praise for the movie is a bit strange to me. Like I thought it was OK, but hardly a great film. Dave Franco didn't work in the lead role IMO.

The reverence the material seems to have toward The Room and Tommy Wiseau is very strange to me.

IMHO The Room is not some anomaly. Tons of movies that are supremely bad and laughably bad get made every year by people who are just like Greg and Tommy Wiseau. I don't get why this film has achieved this level of notoriety other than that Tommy Wiseau is this weird, enigmatic figure. However, he doesn't deserve this level of fame he's going to get from this movie's release.

I'm somewhat averse to the way in which Tommy is depicted here.
 
The reverence the material seems to have toward The Room and Tommy Wiseau is very strange to me.

IMHO The Room is not some anomaly. Tons of movies that are supremely bad and laughably bad get made every year by people who are just like Greg and Tommy Wiseau. I don't get why this film has achieved this level of notoriety other than that Tommy Wiseau is this weird, enigmatic figure. However, he doesn't deserve this level of fame he's going to get from this movie's release.

I'm somewhat averse to the way in which Tommy is depicted here.

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The Disaster Artist - 8/10

Really good movie, nicely paced with a lot of heart. Tommy must have been an absolute PITA to work with, yet the movie somehow manages to make him rather sympathetic. His relationship with Greg was super weird, though. I don't blame Greg's mom for not wanting him to move in with Tommy.

I'd read that Dave Franco was the weak link but I thought he was fine. And even though his beard was supposed to look cheap it looked all right to me and Denny's hair was worse.

I didn't entirely buy the ending, I mean the part where the cast was excited on premiere night wanting to see how the film turned out. I'm sure the real cast and crew - outside of Tommy - knew that they had a dud on their hands.
 
Sort of a case where all the praise for the movie is a bit strange to me. Like I thought it was OK, but hardly a great film. Dave Franco didn't work in the lead role IMO.

The reverence the material seems to have toward The Room and Tommy Wiseau is very strange to me.

IMHO The Room is not some anomaly. Tons of movies that are supremely bad and laughably bad get made every year by people who are just like Greg and Tommy Wiseau. I don't get why this film has achieved this level of notoriety other than that Tommy Wiseau is this weird, enigmatic figure. However, he doesn't deserve this level of fame he's going to get from this movie's release.

I'm somewhat averse to the way in which Tommy is depicted here.

I think a lot of it comes from Wiseau himself just being this incomprehensibly bizarre person.
 
The Disaster Artist - 8/10

Really good movie, nicely paced with a lot of heart. Tommy must have been an absolute PITA to work with, yet the movie somehow manages to make him rather sympathetic. His relationship with Greg was super weird, though. I don't blame Greg's mom for not wanting him to move in with Tommy.

I'd read that Dave Franco was the weak link but I thought he was fine. And even though his beard was supposed to look cheap it looked all right to me and Denny's hair was worse.

I didn't entirely buy the ending, I mean the part where the cast was excited on premiere night wanting to see how the film turned out. I'm sure the real cast and crew - outside of Tommy - knew that they had a dud on their hands.

You should read the book, so much stuff in there that the movie left out, as bizarre as what you see in the movie is, it doesn't cover half of the crazy that lead to, and happened during, the filming of The Room, this movie could've been twice as long as it was and probably been even more entertaining. The movie left a lot of stuff out, I imagine in no small part to try to avoid offending Wiseau, some of the stuff in the book really paints a rather insidious, and disturbing picture of Tommy.
 
Sort of a case where all the praise for the movie is a bit strange to me. Like I thought it was OK, but hardly a great film. Dave Franco didn't work in the lead role IMO.

The reverence the material seems to have toward The Room and Tommy Wiseau is very strange to me.

IMHO The Room is not some anomaly. Tons of movies that are supremely bad and laughably bad get made every year by people who are just like Greg and Tommy Wiseau. I don't get why this film has achieved this level of notoriety other than that Tommy Wiseau is this weird, enigmatic figure. However, he doesn't deserve this level of fame he's going to get from this movie's release.

I'm somewhat averse to the way in which Tommy is depicted here.

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Sort of a case where all the praise for the movie is a bit strange to me. Like I thought it was OK, but hardly a great film. Dave Franco didn't work in the lead role IMO.

The reverence the material seems to have toward The Room and Tommy Wiseau is very strange to me.

IMHO The Room is not some anomaly. Tons of movies that are supremely bad and laughably bad get made every year by people who are just like Greg and Tommy Wiseau. I don't get why this film has achieved this level of notoriety other than that Tommy Wiseau is this weird, enigmatic figure. However, he doesn't deserve this level of fame he's going to get from this movie's release.

I'm somewhat averse to the way in which Tommy is depicted here.

It's a meme people have bought into, now it's got this cult status that people have 'agreed' through consensus somehow makes it noteworthy.
 
Which is how memes and cult status entertainment works. Franco didn't do this out of some sense of "people need to understand this", he did it because he knew of the cult status and was a cult fan of it himself. And damn it, Hollywood knew it and gave him a budget.
 
I haven't seen a lot of really bad movies but I've watched bad movie reviews on RedLetterMedia. I think The Room is famous among geeks because:

1.) It's not trying to be a schlocky B movie; its creator sincerely believed he was making a modern classic.

2.) There's never been a lead man as weird as Tommy Wiseau. The leads in bad movies usually seem to be decent-looking, albeit bland, men.

3.) The Room almost seems like it was written by an alien. Conversations have no natural flow, and people engage in really bizarre behaviors that simply don't happen anywhere, not even in fiction.
 
Liked this one so much I saw it twice in the row :funny: Hilarious and wonderfully acted by Franco brothers
 
I think a lot of it comes from Wiseau himself just being this incomprehensibly bizarre person.

I don't think he's that bizarre, it's just the artificial mystique that's been built around him that the movie also maintains. Case in point the scene where you see Seth Rogen's character cashing in his check. There's no other scene like that in the film where it changes focus to another character like that. It sets up the source of Wiseau's money as this great mystery...and well...

I get it. James Franco wanted Tommy Wiseau along on the ride for this thing, so it glosses him up a bit and makes him more sympathetic.
I haven't seen a lot of really bad movies but I've watched bad movie reviews on RedLetterMedia. I think The Room is famous among geeks because:

1.) It's not trying to be a schlocky B movie; its creator sincerely believed he was making a modern classic.

2.) There's never been a lead man as weird as Tommy Wiseau. The leads in bad movies usually seem to be decent-looking, albeit bland, men.

3.) The Room almost seems like it was written by an alien. Conversations have no natural flow, and people engage in really bizarre behaviors that simply don't happen anywhere, not even in fiction.

That's like most of Brett Ratner's filmography. I've listened to some of his audio commentaries. It's not surprising for a filmmaker like that to have an ego, but his ego...wow...
 
Nobody thinks what they're doing is wrong until someone says so.
 
The thing is, the source of Weisseus money trslly is a mystery. Plenty of bad movies get made but few are forced into being by one person the extent to which the Room was. The most comparable thingis actually "The Evil Within" a movie made over the course of a decade by a billionaire heir.
 
You should read the book, so much stuff in there that the movie left out, as bizarre as what you see in the movie is, it doesn't cover half of the crazy that lead to, and happened during, the filming of The Room, this movie could've been twice as long as it was and probably been even more entertaining. The movie left a lot of stuff out, I imagine in no small part to try to avoid offending Wiseau, some of the stuff in the book really paints a rather insidious, and disturbing picture of Tommy.

The movie softened him a bit but you don't need to read far between the lines to see that he's a real whackjob. I'm seriously surprised that he hasn't been arrested for anything yet.

I don't think he's that bizarre, it's just the artificial mystique that's been built around him that the movie also maintains. Case in point the scene where you see Seth Rogen's character cashing in his check. There's no other scene like that in the film where it changes focus to another character like that. It sets up the source of Wiseau's money as this great mystery...and well...

Yeah, it's the curse of making a movie about a real life person. There's no answer as to where Tommy's money came from because no one - except for Tommy - actually knows.
 
I saw this movie today, and absolutely loved it. I do think of this movie is kind of like Ed Wood for this generation. James Franco was very good as Tommy. Just all-around entertaining and solid film, glad I went to see this today
 
The movie softened him a bit but you don't need to read far between the lines to see that he's a real whackjob. I'm seriously surprised that he hasn't been arrested for anything yet.



Yeah, it's the curse of making a movie about a real life person. There's no answer as to where Tommy's money came from because no one - except for Tommy - actually knows.
That scene should've been cut then.
 
That scene should've been cut then.

What? Why? Money was there. It's how he fund the movie.

It's incredible but nobody knows where it comes from. That's fascinating. It should absolutely be in the movie.
 
I thought Tommy made his money in real estate? Flipping office buildings in the Bay area and such.
 
I thought Tommy made his money in real estate? Flipping office buildings in the Bay area and such.

I read somewhere years ago that he made a lot of money exporting leather jackets to Korea or something. Not sure if true.
 
What? Why? Money was there. It's how he fund the movie.

It's incredible but nobody knows where it comes from. That's fascinating. It should absolutely be in the movie.

Because it further develops a subplot that's never resolved. Also the movie shifts narrative perspective to another character which it doesn't do again later in the film.

If the mystery is he has money and no one in the cast or crew has any idea where it comes from, it's already pretty much understood without the Seth Rogen scene.
 
Because it further develops a subplot that's never resolved. Also the movie shifts narrative perspective to another character which it doesn't do again later in the film.

If the mystery is he has money and no one in the cast or crew has any idea where it comes from, it's already pretty much understood without the Seth Rogen scene.

The movie is showing how mysterious Tommy is, as well as the opinion of others around him. People think he has no talent and are shocked that this idiot can have money. It adds to him defying expectations by completing the film and gaining his cult status. Therefore it was important.
 

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