JJ Abrams and Bad Robot sign 500 mil deal with Warner Bros

[terry78]

J.J. Abrams Bidding War Won by WarnerMedia as Bad Robot Nears $500M Partnership


Well hey.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Okay WB, show you faith and belief in Superman as a character, JJ as a creative force and Cavill as an actor and get on the table, in discussion and onto production slate. Make it so.

 

[Closerframe]

I'm liking this new CEO and I'm not being sarcastic.

 

[MadVillainy]

That is a good thing if true. They should be putting pressure on creatives to deliver. However, that can also lead to rushed projects.

I've said before DC needs to get out of "attach a big name as a producer" mindset. Abrams is talented but also has a ton of projects, DC and otherwise, that it'll be hard for him to give his full attention to any of them. Except for maybe anything he is directing. One of the reasons Feige was good is because his whole workday revolved around the MCU. That was his bread and butter.

WB needs a guy completely dedicated to pushing the DC universe forward and someone who knows you don't need to rely on big names behind or infront of he camera anymore.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

That is a good thing if true. They should be putting pressure on creatives to deliver. However, that can also lead to rushed projects.

I've said before DC needs to get out of "attach a big name as a producer" mindset. Abrams is talented but also has a ton of projects, DC and otherwise, that it'll be hard for him to give his full attention to any of them. Except for maybe anything he is directing. One of the reasons Feige was good is because his whole workday revolved around the MCU. That was his bread and butter.

WB needs a guy completely dedicated to pushing the DC universe forward and someone who knows you don't need to rely on big names behind or infront of he camera anymore.

Agreed. Also, Abrams has probably been struggling due to both the pandemic and the Fandom Menace needlessly jumping all over him. People really take him for granted and don't seem to realize how much he truly understands the franchises he gets involved him.

Have we all forgotten that Star Trek was on the brink and Star Wars was mostly "done" aside from side content like The Clone Wars, some games, and books when JJ came aboard? The dude breathed new life into BOTH series. Not Kathleen Kennedy, not Paramount, HIM! "But he relies too much on nostalgia and his mystery box technique for storytelling!" So f-ing WHAT? Heaven goddamn forbid a director be inspired and actually try to be INTERESTING in how he tells the story he wants to tell!

Bottom line, JJ Abrams may not be perfect (Mission Impossible 3 is still his weakest film, though also his first directoral-wise), but at least the dude has a grasp of things and actually puts effort! Leave him alone!

 

[MadVillainy]

Agreed. Also, Abrams has probably been struggling due to both the pandemic and the Fandom Menace needlessly jumping all over him. People really take him for granted and don't seem to realize how much he truly understands the franchises he gets involved him.

Have we all forgotten that Star Trek was on the brink and Star Wars was mostly "done" aside from side content like The Clone Wars, some games, and books when JJ came aboard? The dude breathed new life into BOTH series. Not Kathleen Kennedy, not Paramount, HIM! "But he relies too much on nostalgia and his mystery box technique for storytelling!" So f-ing WHAT? Heaven goddamn forbid a director be inspired and actually try to be INTERESTING in how he tells the story he wants to tell!

Bottom line, JJ Abrams may not be perfect (Mission Impossible 3 is still his weakest film, though also his first directoral-wise), but at least the dude has a grasp of things and actually puts effort! Leave him alone!

Alrighty...

 

[Closerframe]

Agreed. Also, Abrams has probably been struggling due to both the pandemic and the Fandom Menace needlessly jumping all over him. People really take him for granted and don't seem to realize how much he truly understands the franchises he gets involved him.

Have we all forgotten that Star Trek was on the brink and Star Wars was mostly "done" aside from side content like The Clone Wars, some games, and books when JJ came aboard? The dude breathed new life into BOTH series. Not Kathleen Kennedy, not Paramount, HIM! "But he relies too much on nostalgia and his mystery box technique for storytelling!" So f-ing WHAT? Heaven goddamn forbid a director be inspired and actually try to be INTERESTING in how he tells the story he wants to tell!

Bottom line, JJ Abrams may not be perfect (Mission Impossible 3 is still his weakest film, though also his first directoral-wise), but at least the dude has a grasp of things and actually puts effort! Leave him alone!

I haven’t laughed this hard in awhile.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

I haven’t laughed this hard in awhile.

See? This is the bull**** I'm talking about. Y'all love jumping on him. Again, need I remind you the state of Star Trek beforehand? Nemesis and Enterprise and how everyone hated those?

Why do I even bother coming here if I keep getting my points shot down? If it's not being mean to Abrams, it's being mean to whoever in charge of Lucasfilm. Sick of this crap.

 

[MadVillainy]

See? This is the bull**** I'm talking about. Y'all love jumping on him. Again, need I remind you the state of Star Trek beforehand? Nemesis and Enterprise and how everyone hated those?

Why do I even bother coming here if I keep getting my points shot down? If it's not being mean to Abrams, it's being mean to whoever in charge of Lucasfilm. Sick of this crap.

I like Abrams fine. I do have my complaints but I do with a lot of directors I like.

But you always get so worked up and go on these angry rants over things that aren't a big deal. That's why I just said "alrighty. "

EDIT: and the funny thing is people aren't even that mean to Abrams. Like he's not M Night, Bay, or one of those directors the net loves to pile on to death. He has his haters sure, but nothing that crazy especially compared to a lot of other directors. It's not like he gets the Morbius treatment

 

[MOVIELORD101]

I like Abrams fine. I do have my complaints but I do with a lot of directors I like.

But you always get so worked up and go on these angry rants over things that aren't a big deal. That's why I just said "alrighty. "

EDIT: and the funny thing is people aren't even that mean to Abrams. Like he's not M Night, Bay, or one of those directors the net loves to pile on to death. He has his haters sure, but nothing that crazy especially compared to a lot of other directors. It's not like he gets the Morbius treatment

I get worked up because I'm passionate. And sorry if I'm out of line. It's just that the Fandom Menace were so mean to him and Rian Johnson, when their movies really were great. Both of JJ's especially made Star Wars FEEL like Star Wars again to me. I'll go to bat for that entire trilogy before I ever say anything good story-wise about the prequel trilogy.

As for JJ and DC....give him Superman. Not some alt-universe thing, I mean good ol' Clark Kent. Even if it's similar in tone to what Richard Donner did, I'm ok with that. That's why Superman's supposed to feel like: an uplifting hero who gives off a sense of hope and inspiration to those who encounter him, not a mopey git whom people keep comparing to Jesus for no reason. Think Captain America but can fly and has super powers; THAT'S who Superman should be tone-wise.

 

[MadVillainy]

I get worked up because I'm passionate. And sorry if I'm out of line. It's just that the Fandom Menace were so mean to him and Rian Johnson, when their movies really were great. Both of JJ's especially made Star Wars FEEL like Star Wars again to me. I'll go to bat for that entire trilogy before I ever say anything good story-wise about the prequel trilogy.

As for JJ and DC....give him Superman. Not some alt-universe thing, I mean good ol' Clark Kent. Even if it's similar in tone to what Richard Donner did, I'm ok with that. That's why Superman's supposed to feel like: an uplifting hero who gives off a sense of hope and inspiration to those who encounter him, not a mopey git whom people keep comparing to Jesus for no reason. Think Captain America but can fly and has super powers; THAT'S who Superman should be tone-wise.

It's not just Star Wars.
It's happened in the Fast X thread, the 355 thread, the Avatar 2 thread, the Mario thread, the Oscars thread. I could go on. And I even remember a particularly bad one in the Disney Mulan thread you a while back too. It's a recurring thing. And it's not even about disagreeing with you because I don't disagree much any more than the average person
Always with the all caps, the exclamations, the cursing, and sometimes even the insults (not to users on SHH but still). Just a lot of angry nerd energy.
Ironically you're repeatedly doing the same type of behavior you're complaining that people did towards Abrams. And "being mean" like you constantly accuse others of being towards movies. And it's always about stuff that doesn't really matter much

I feel like people say they're "passionate" as an excuse to say they get angry easily. And I never got that. I'm passionate about many things but dont get so angry about those things.

But I'm not a mod or your boss and I'm not trying to tell you what to do, so do whatever you want. But it's constant and just brings threads/convos down

 

[bapi]

Just a reminder Lord & Miller signed a very similar deal with Sony. It also happened in 2019, it's 9-figures and just like Abrams they can show no results. That Spidey TV-universe still didn't happen. I think when you pay talent so much it's only fair to expect results.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

I get worked up because I'm passionate. And sorry if I'm out of line. It's just that the Fandom Menace were so mean to him and Rian Johnson, when their movies really were great. Both of JJ's especially made Star Wars FEEL like Star Wars again to me. I'll go to bat for that entire trilogy before I ever say anything good story-wise about the prequel trilogy.

As for JJ and DC....give him Superman. Not some alt-universe thing, I mean good ol' Clark Kent. Even if it's similar in tone to what Richard Donner did, I'm ok with that. That's why Superman's supposed to feel like: an uplifting hero who gives off a sense of hope and inspiration to those who encounter him, not a mopey git whom people keep comparing to Jesus for no reason. Think Captain America but can fly and has super powers; THAT'S who Superman should be tone-wise.

I like Abrams and all but The Last Jedi sucked.

 

[Prison Mike]

I like Abrams and all but The Last Jedi sucked.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

I like Abrams and all but The Last Jedi sucked.

None of the sequels sucked.

 

[MadVillainy]

Just a reminder Lord & Miller signed a very similar deal with Sony. It also happened in 2019, it's 9-figures and just like Abrams they can show no results. That Spidey TV-universe still didn't happen. I think when you pay talent so much it's only fair to expect results.

To be fair and as was brought up, COVID happened early the very next year which could affecting things for both deals.

But yes I agree you should expect results

 

[Punisher_MAX]

None of the sequels sucked.

If you say so.

 

[henzINNIT]

I'm guessing WB asked JJ to come up with some new ideas and it's caused him massive writer's block. The guy is a solid director but he's a horrid writer, and for the most part, the others from Bad Robot are even worse.

It's just that the Fandom Menace were so mean to him and Rian Johnson, when their movies really were great. Both of JJ's especially made Star Wars FEEL like Star Wars again to me. I'll go to bat for that entire trilogy before I ever say anything good story-wise about the prequel trilogy.

I would have agreed pre-TROS but that one broke me. I still enjoy 7 & 8 though, and would place both ahead of the prequel trilogy.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

I'm guessing WB asked JJ to come up with some new ideas and it's caused him massive writer's block. The guy is a solid director but he's a horrid writer, and for the most part, the others from Bad Robot are even worse.



I would have agreed pre-TROS but that one broke me. I still enjoy 7 & 8 though, and would place both ahead of the prequel trilogy.

I really feel the TROS hate is overblown. That's not the worst Star Wars movie. Not by a long shot. The Clone Wars movie is, with Attack of the Clones second.

 

[henzINNIT]

I really feel the TROS hate is overblown. That's not the worst Star Wars movie. Not by a long shot. The Clone Wars movie is, with Attack of the Clones second.

To JJ's credit, he did pretty well considering the mad dash the film was made in. I forgot The Clone Wars movie existed, and have largely forgotten what happened in it, but I remember enough to be glad I don't remember, ha.

 

[Spider-Fan]

JJ I have said many times to me is the most overrated guy in the industry. I think his movies are mostly just fine, but people want to make him the next Spielberg. He isn't anywhere near that.

As for Star Wars rankings, I think TFA and TLJ are both better than the prequels. But I think TROS is worse than the prequels. Any of them. That movie just felt it was made by an algorithm over a weekend based on Twitter posts and Reddit polls. Just an awful movie that I am unlikely to ever watch again.