Spoilers Joker VS The Batman

[Lily Adler]

The ultimate showdown.

VS

​

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Wait, you're serious?

 

[JackWhite]

Does JoaquinJoker have access to any dogs? Specifically Rottweilers?

 

[Prison Mike]

The Batman was great but Joker left a longer lasting impression on me after I left the theater.

 

[Gothamsknight]

The Batman all day long. Joker was fine, but it's essentially derivative piece of filmmaking that was a love letter to scorcese.

 

[Prison Mike]

I mean, I could say The Batman was a love letter to David Fincher…

 

[Gothamsknight]

I mean, I could say The Batman was a love letter to David Fincher…

You could, but I think Joker wears that on it's sleeve far more. Which isn't a negative for a lot people.

 

[Drizzle]

I like Joker a lot but The Batman has a much better story in addition to the stellar performances across the board. The Batman also felt like I was watching a comic book come to life on screen, whereas Joker felt more like I was watching a '70s Scorsese movie with a couple of Batman characters sprinkled throughout the movie.

 

[Kane52630]

I'm that weird son of a b***h who loves both.

 

[The Joker]

I'd give it to The Batman. Joker is great, but The Batman is a more pure Batman story with several great performances. Phoenix carries Joker.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

Two of the best CBMs of all time

 

[Captain Tired]

The Batman.

But I think Joker (which I accidentally voted for) is better than a lot of people on the Hype give it credit for.

 

[Prison Mike]

The Batman.

But I think Joker (which I accidentally voted for) is better than a lot of people on the Hype give it credit for.

 

[Captain Tired]

Sorry but I have to be perfectly honest. I'd intended on voting for The Batman, but somehow voted for Joker in my absentmindedness. Still, Joker is a great film and so it's far from the worst mistake I've ever made on the Hype.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Both have similar strengths, the atmosphere, the performances, and the directors’ commitment to their vision.

But both directors get tripped up a bit because their grasp of storytelling isn’t as strong as the directors they’re inspired by.

 

[Iceman]

The Batman quite easily for me.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I loved both films but I had to give it to The Batman. I really could have gone either way though. Both films are bold visions that take the genre into new territory and even when they do feel familiar (in regards to influences) it’s the GOOD kind of familiar.

WB may not have its shared universe crap figured out at all and they can’t make a decent Superman film to save their lives but they have a good handle on how to do Batman and his related characters.

 

[henzINNIT]

I don't like either so this is interesting in a different way.

The Batman is dour and a little too committed to being hard-boiled and grim. It has plenty of Batman-y stuff though, solid cast, has its moments. It is an interesting choice to lean into the broody darkness for the sake of a lesson about the dangers of using terror as a tactic. I wonder where the series goes from there.

The Joker is a nicely shot and acted cynical impression of a film with substance. A frustrated, mediocre comedy director's attempt to gain clout as a serious film-maker with a Scorsese pastiche sold using familiar IP. He once said with Joker that he used the guise of a comic book movie to sneak a 'real movie' in to theatres. I disagree. He used the guise of a 'real movie' to sneak an average drama out as an interesting comic book movie. Joker is lame compared to the 'real movies' it emulates, and for a comic book movie, really quite a boring take on the character when you strip away the pretense.

Though I don't think it totally comes together, I think the Batman has more interesting ideas. It's also a better take on its title character. I may watch it again some time. No desire to watch Joker again.

 

[Doctor Jones]

There isn't a question here.

Joker is pretty good, but just watch Taxi Driver instead. I don't really think about this movie unless people bring it up. The Batman is a great film and one of the best Batman movies and sticks with you. I've seen it three times and can't wait to see it again.

Funnily enough both have Taxi Driver as their influences, but one just uses it as a means to tell a larger vision, the other is just trying to be the movie but comes up short.

 

[Babillygunn]

Sorry but I have to be perfectly honest. I'd intended on voting for The Batman, but somehow voted for Joker in my absentmindedness. Still, Joker is a great film and so it's far from the worst mistake I've ever made on the Hype.

You can change your vote. You don’t have to live with your mistakes.

 

[Iceman]

I'm that weird son of a b***h who loves both.

That’s kinda boring normal unfortunately.

I’d expect The Batman to win in a poll between the 2 but for most to also like The Joker.

 

[Captain Tired]

You can change your vote. You don’t have to live with your mistakes.

K.

 

[Prison Mike]

You can change your vote. You don’t have to live with your mistakes.

K.

Stop with the crazy talk

 

[Deck Rickard]

In defense of Joker, I will say that Phoenix won a well-deserved Oscar for his performance. I know Oscars aren’t the end-all, be-all gold standard we act like they are sometimes, but I also don’t think we should just brush that off. It’s a significant achievement for any comic book film. And as great as The Batman is, I don’t see any of the actors getting an Oscar nomination, let alone a win. I would love to be proven wrong but for whatever reason I don’t see it happening.

Again, I think the better movie is The Batman but Phoenix delivered a performance for the ages in Joker and sometimes a fantastic performance is enough to make an otherwise okay movie into a classic.

 

[fan4stic]

In defense of Joker, I will say that Phoenix won a well-deserved Oscar for his performance. I know Oscars aren’t the end-all, be-all gold standard we act like they are sometimes, but I also don’t think we should just brush that off. It’s a significant achievement for any comic book film. And as great as The Batman is, I don’t see any of the actors getting an Oscar nomination, let alone a win. I would love to be proven wrong but for whatever reason I don’t see it happening.

There isn't a question here.

Joker is pretty good, but just watch Taxi Driver instead. I don't really think about this movie unless people bring it up. The Batman is a great film and one of the best Batman movies and sticks with you. I've seen it three times and can't wait to see it again.

I did find Arthur more emotionally engaging than I found Bruce in this. I didn't really get much out of him personality wise and I didn't really feel much for Bruce for parts of the movie. I think I like the look of Joker more, as well, maybe. And I think Joker did a stronger take on the Thomas Wayne isn't who you think he is angle. I was let down by The Batman movie, to me, taking such an easy, and maybe even cheap, way out with that story and just going, "No, guys, he was still a super nice guy, he just did something stupid one time." I prefer what I see as the Joker movie doing, a more elitist, arrogant, maybe even outright dishonest (depending on your theory), Thomas Wayne.