Daredevil Jon Bernthal IS Frank Castle / The Punisher!

[DarkKnight]

Just found this on Reddit. Great manip:

I'd put it in the OP but people might think it's official

best manip and most convincing that I've seen.

 

[Destructus86]

Just found this on Reddit. Great manip:

I'd put it in the OP but people might think it's official

Amazing! He actually LOOKS like the Punisher and we already know he can do crazy intense.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

best manip and most convincing that I've seen.

Cant wait till we get his official look.

 

[SuperBatman]

Heath ledger was questioned as the joker before we saw anything from him.

Same goes with Chris Evans as captain america.

There's some other casting choices people didn't feel to keen about and yet those guys knock it out of the park.

Let's just wait til we see some footage from Jon before we discuss if it was a bad casting choice or not.

Now I'm not saying people can't have opinions about the actor from what they have seen from them. I'm just saying maybe they might surprise you then again who really knows.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think marvel nabbing JB is a huge steal, especially for punisher. The only other person on my list for him was jon hamm, and i knew that was a long shot.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Just found this on Reddit. Great manip:

I'd put it in the OP but people might think it's official

Looks JUST like the Punisher that I know and love.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

He's got that punisher frown and everything

 

[StarLord]

Just found this on Reddit. Great manip:

I'd put it in the OP but people might think it's official

That's great.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I have rarely enjoyed The Punisher as the lead in his own stories, and I have always felt that he's at his best when he's a supporting character in Daredevil. Interacting with Matt actually brings out some personality in Frank. It's been pretty consistently portrayed that Daredevil is the closest thing Frank Castle has to an actual friend, and their interplay humanizes The Punisher a lot. And Frank also adds a lot to Daredevil's narrative. Frank is this unstable weirdo who makes every situation worse, which is a problem for Matt, but he's also extremely competent and has an admirable loyalty streak, and for some reason Matt feels like he's kind of responsible for the guy. In the same way that Foggy stands for the normal side of Matt's life by being the most endearingly normal human ever, Frank stands for the insane and surreal side of Matt's life by being a version of Daredevil who can never turn it off and who doesn't have a lifeline to sanity. Makes for great drama and comedy. All in all, a very smart move.

Daredevil is the best place for The Punisher. Matt Murdock is a man afraid of damnation, and Frank Castle is a man who's already there. When you put the two of them in a room together and have them start talking, that's when Frank Castle shines as a character. Frank Castle is always broken, but the only time I've ever seen him actually be vulnerable is when he's around Matt.

The Punisher spent years expertly evading law enforcement at every turn. The second he found out that Matt had been arrested and was in prison, he marched up to a cop and turned himself in, so he could get into prison and watch Matt's back. Frank would never do that for anyone but Matt, it's a very powerful and telling moment for the character.

I hope for the love of god they actually show some depth to the Punisher this time.

Frank growing up in a mob controlled neighbourhood and seeing the effects it had on peoples daily lives. Frank leaving the clergy before going off to Vietnam (probably Iraq in the show) because he couldn't reconcile with the concept of forgiveness. Frank's war on crime not being about avenging his families but about returning to the battlefields of war in which he felt most at home.

The character of Frank Castle is more than just a guys who's family died so he kills criminals.

The psychology of why is the way he is and why he does what he does is part of what makes him interesting.

Daredevil and the Punisher clashing should offer insight into both of the characters world view, ethical standing and ideology.

This is why Punisher deserves an entire season as a main opponent of Murdock.

 

[BatsDC]

I wouldn't want an entire season of Daredevil vs. Punisher.

That would be dragged out

 

[DarkKnight]

Looks JUST like the Punisher that I know and love.

I see what you did there........

 

[Doctor Jones]

I wouldn't want an entire season of Daredevil vs. Punisher.

That would be dragged out

For 13 episodes? Depending on the execution it could or it wouldn't be at all. No one's saying it has to be about just them. But it's more than enough to provide the central conflict. And the material is all there to provide something compelling to the point where if perhaps Punisher is the only new character introduced you're satisfied with just that. But I don't think Punisher will be the only new character. I have a feeling The Owl will be involved. He'd be an interesting villain to put Castle and Murdock on a collision course.

Plus... you can take more creative liberties with The Owl to the point where people wouldn't really fuss about it. I don't see much Owl fan clubs around. He ain't Venom where people are so beholden to him. There's always more room to improve that character and if you can do it, do it.

Bendis put an interesting spin on him, but I think you can do more. He can be a Bond and a Batman villain all rolled into something unique.

 

[The Question]

This is why Punisher deserves an entire season as a main opponent of Murdock.

No, it's why that shouldn't happen. The Punisher isn't the Big Bad, he's the intense and unstable weirdo who Matt kind of hates but also kind of feels for and feels responsible for. I agree, The Punisher should be in most, if not all, episodes, but he shouldn't be the main antagonist. He should be a supporting character/secondary antagonist, who Daredevil has a complicated relationship with.

Bullseye should be the main villain. Kingpin hires Bullseye to kill Daredevil, and Bullseye acts as the Big Bad. The Punisher shows up to "help," and Daredevil's reaction to him is variations on "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP HELPING."

 

[Belmont]

Scene from Cap3 CW:

CA: You murderous piece of trash! *beats up Castle*
Punisher: They are bad guys cap. Im not going to miss an opportunity to clean up when garbage comes strolling down my backyard. They reek.

*dead hydra agents and crossbone lying on the floor riddled with bullets

 

[Belmont]

Scene from Cap3 CW:

CA: You murderous piece of trash! *beats up Castle*
Punisher: They are bad guys cap. Im not going to miss an opportunity to clean up when garbage comes strolling down my backyard. They reek.

*dead hydra agents and crossbone lying on the floor riddled with bullets

Im fanboying right now so hard!!

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I think Frank is better used as a man with similar goals to Matt but very different methods which cause them to butt heads. I would not want him to be the main antagonist.

 

[Doctor Jones]

No, it's why that shouldn't happen. The Punisher isn't the Big Bad, he's the intense and unstable weirdo who Matt kind of hates but also kind of feels for and feels responsible for. I agree, The Punisher should be in most, if not all, episodes, but he shouldn't be the main antagonist. He should be a supporting character/secondary antagonist, who Daredevil has a complicated relationship with.

Bullseye should be the main villain. Kingpin hires Bullseye to kill Daredevil, and Bullseye acts as the Big Bad. The Punisher shows up to "help," and Daredevil's reaction to him is variations on "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP HELPING."

I didn't mean as a straight up villain. More of an antagonist in the sense where they will oppose each other to some degree and it affects the evolution of Murdock from season one in the best and worst ways. A character like Punisher deserves his own whole season and story like this might turn out to be. What you described above is enough to sustain an entire season where Castle is positioned as the main antagonist so to speak. It's a complicated relationship that further pushes Murdock, the next step after Fisk.

Hence why I think there's room for someone like The Owl or Bullseye to fill the real villain role. But I'd prefer to see Elektra before Bullseye. If it came down to it, it seems more organic to introduce Elektra before Bullseye anyway.

Unless they somehow make it work to include all three and give them all justice, but that would be hard to do in 13 episodes. I can wait for Bullseye if it means giving him an entire season to devote to.

But this is Marvel. This could be the beginning of a surprising amount of new characters this season. If they can't have Defenders so soon, then in return bring in more players to the Hell's Kitchen.

 

[rogue trooper]

I just thought it'd be fun to point out that, maybe it's just me, but I seem to see a bit of a "slight" resemblance of a young DeNiro in Bernthal.

I find it delightful that an actor who resembles Travis Bickle is playing Frank Castle! Just thought I'd share that.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I just thought it'd be fun to point out that, maybe it's just me, but I seem to see a bit of a "slight" resemblance of a young DeNiro in Bernthal.

I find it delightful that an actor who resembles Travis Bickle is playing Frank Castle! Just thought I'd share that.

He played Deniros son in the dramady Grudge Match.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Just watching the 04 Punisher to get me prepared for next year. I actually never thought a Punisher announcement would get me as excited as Tom Jane coming back, but JB is just too perfect for this role, and that manip above is amazing.

 

[The Endless]

May come as a shock to some, but I was not impressed by his acting in The Walking Dead either. Some would probably assume I don't like him because of his D-bag role on that show but that's not the case at all, I found his acting laughable at times on that show. Even more laughable than Rick Grimes crying and stuff & thangs and etc. Again as mentioned before, he still does not look like the Punisher to me. sure a couple of the pics on previous pages I can see a similarity, hell, The Punisher has been drawn differently several times, but he does not look like the Punisher that I know and love.

Have you seen Wolf of Wall Street or Fury? He's a great character actor. I struggle to think of anyone more suited to the role. Maybe Frank Grillo, but he's already Crossbones.

 

[rogue trooper]

He played Deniros son in the dramady Grudge Match.

That's right. I just realized.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Have you seen Wolf of Wall Street or Fury? He's a great character actor. I struggle to think of anyone more suited to the role. Maybe Frank Grillo, but he's already Crossbones.

Same here, I watched Walking Dead as well and this is such perfect casting. The guy plays a great psycho, and now he is playing another one. I actually think this could be Marvels best casting yet and that's saying something.

Are there actually people questioning this casting?

 

[The Endless]

Yea there is, which i don't fully understand. The choice is spot on.

 

[ernesth100]

\When it comes to casting Marvel is at the top.