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Fun Fact : That scene was inspired by the first JP novel, where the Rex chases them down a river.
 
It was great! One of the reasons I dig JP3 (although a shallow one) is because alot of it is made up of things from the first novel that never made it to the screen. The Raptor nests, the Aviary sequence (though altered, obviously). I do think it's a legitimately good movie, that just needed the deleted scenes to be in the movie. BTW I love your avvy, you must be quite a fighter to make it past my cooooowww . :oldrazz:
 
One of the main things I want them to do in JW is to make the dinosaurs scary again, kids are so used to seeing cgi creatures in films all the time now, they need to really make a large effort to make them frightening.
 
One of the main things I want them to do in JW is to make the dinosaurs scary again, kids are so used to seeing cgi creatures in films all the time now, they need to really make a large effort to make them frightening.

I agree. That's why I believe all the dinosaurs should wear dino-shaped clown costumes.
 
One of the main things I want them to do in JW is to make the dinosaurs scary again, kids are so used to seeing cgi creatures in films all the time now, they need to really make a large effort to make them frightening.

Agreed.

I think the potential aquatic dinos could be really good for that.
 
One of the main things I want them to do in JW is to make the dinosaurs scary again, kids are so used to seeing cgi creatures in films all the time now, they need to really make a large effort to make them frightening.
Indeed. I think what gave JP such a great atmosphere was the way the handled the dinosaurs. We're introduced to the raptor at the start, but don't see it. We see what it can do, and how people react. Same thing with the cow feeding scene in the pen.

When they go for the electric rail car tour, they don't see any dinosaurs at first. They are frustrated, but know they're out there somewhere. Even just hearing a dinosaur noise coming in the jungle gives off a ton of atmosphere. Less can be more.
 
Indeed. I think what gave JP such a great atmosphere was the way the handled the dinosaurs. We're introduced to the raptor at the start, but don't see it. We see what it can do, and how people react. Same thing with the cow feeding scene in the pen.

When they go for the electric rail car tour, they don't see any dinosaurs at first. They are frustrated, but know they're out there somewhere. Even just hearing a dinosaur noise coming in the jungle gives off a ton of atmosphere. Less can be more.

and even then, if i'm not mistaken, the first carnivore we see is the Dilaposaurus which... starts out as a cute lil dino pet... and then has a big surprise and turns vicious.

the dino's had a great reveal
 
One of the main things I want them to do in JW is to make the dinosaurs scary again, kids are so used to seeing cgi creatures in films all the time now, they need to really make a large effort to make them frightening.

again? that might have been the first time that they were scary on film. it used to be stop motion of iguana's with frills glued to their heads.
 
Yes it probably was the first time, it was pretty much the last time as well, by TLW people we're already used to the dinosaurs and rooted for the Tyrannosaurs, rather than get scared by them.

The whole ending scene in LA pretty much made them into a joke by that point, putting them in civilization just ruined the mystique.
 
As a kid I'd always make sure to have my feet on the couch during the Rex scene and the raptors in the kitchen scene. Somehow made me feel safer if my feet weren't on the ground.
 
Dinosaurs can be scary again but it would take a studio and director with balls to alienate such a large fanbase (kids) from seeing it. Scary dinosaurs means they are dangerous and attack, kill, eat people. That happened a few times in previous movies but almost always in a comical sense. Man sitting on a toilet, eaten by a T-Rex? Hilarious.

The raptors were/still are the scariest dinosaurs they've yet come up with although the Spinosaurus in JP3 did an appreciable job as a deadly stalker hunting them relentlessly.

Unfortunately you can't get too scary or graphic with the dinosaurs or you lose the PG/13 rating and roll into the R's which will never happen. So we'll get blunt-toothed dinosaurs which might do a scare in the jump from nowhere sense but not in the "OMG, it's going to kill me!" sense.
 
Dinosaurs can be scary again but it would take a studio and director with balls to alienate such a large fanbase (kids) from seeing it. Scary dinosaurs means they are dangerous and attack, kill, eat people. That happened a few times in previous movies but almost always in a comical sense. Man sitting on a toilet, eaten by a T-Rex? Hilarious.

The raptors were/still are the scariest dinosaurs they've yet come up with although the Spinosaurus in JP3 did an appreciable job as a deadly stalker hunting them relentlessly.

Unfortunately you can't get too scary or graphic with the dinosaurs or you lose the PG/13 rating and roll into the R's which will never happen. So we'll get blunt-toothed dinosaurs which might do a scare in the jump from nowhere sense but not in the "OMG, it's going to kill me!" sense.

It CAN be done tasetfully, and you must be forgetting all of the raptor kills in the first film, Muldoon being attacked and eaten alive wasn't comical in the slightest, or even the opening scene. If the dinosaurs aren't a threat then really what's the point of the film? There isn't one
 
I did say the raptors were the scariest part and said almost always comical, not always comical. We never saw them actually kill and eat someone. It was always off screen. We've seen that. It's been done. If you want to make them scary again you have to do more than make off screen deaths.

Much like a horror movie in the 1950's just can't compare to a horror movie today in terms of the ability to scare, we as an audience aren't so easily scared by something we only hear or gets implicitly stated happening off camera.
 
I don't think they need to show more for it to be scary, just more mystery and to me at least the scariest kills in the JP films are the ones slightly unseen to make you use your own imagination which, if you love horror you can pretty much think of the most brutal death imaginable, but that's just me . :)
 
I don't think they need to show more for it to be scary, just more mystery and to me at least the scariest kills in the JP films are the ones slightly unseen to make you use your own imagination which, if you love horror you can pretty much think of the most brutal death imaginable, but that's just me . :)
Yeah the worst deaths are the ones you cant fully see. My least favorite one is when the heavyset guy gets eaten. lol. That freaked me out when i was younger. Still kinda does today
 
I didn't mean we should get a first person view of them eviscerating people but some screams and a splash of blood from off screen isn't going to cut it anymore either.
 
Could they get away with using shadows to emphasize the horror of being mauled alive by a dinosaur?
 
Possibly. The line between campy and genuinely scary with shadows can be a tricky one to walk but it might be the most effective.
 
You didn't actually see the Raptor's eat people (PG-13 remember), but the victims screams of agony and terror got the point across pretty well.
 
Yeah, pretty much screams/gunshots and the occasional shot of the bushes rustling to signify someones death.
 
I just remembered Muldoon's death scene; I think its one of the most brutal we've had. You can see the raptor has his head in its mouth just as the palm fronds obscure the graphic details. Combine that with Muldoon's shrieks and the raptor's growls. That would work better than shadows and silhouettes.

Favorite JP3 scenes? The aviary ones. I'd like more in the vein of that scene in JP4.
 
and even then, if i'm not mistaken, the first carnivore we see is the Dilaposaurus which... starts out as a cute lil dino pet... and then has a big surprise and turns vicious.

the dino's had a great reveal

That thing was twenty feet long in the novel. No frill, though.
 
Yay, I love her.

I want Sam Neil somewhere in here though.
 
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