Mad Max: Fury Road

[Warhammer]

I don't see them having books to adapt from as a viable argument,if a character is your creation and you create him for the screen then the stories you write for him are just as valid as a book only you(in this case Miller)are writing for the screen directly,he shouldn't have to stop telling stories about his character b/c an actor gets to old to play him IMO

Since there is no real valid argument for this, let's just say that I wouldn't want a Citizen Kane 2 or GoodFellas 2 starring other actors reprising characters of the movies or having brand new characters (Thinks about DTV sequels). For Bond, it's become so much of a Hollywood trend that it's different. Bond will continue to have at least 2 movies a decade for many years to come. That is not and never will be the case for Indy, Luke Skywalker, and others.

I say leave them alone. Leave the Mad Max movies alone. It was meant to be a trilogy. Let it stay a trilogy, instead of making an unnecessary sequel that doesn't even star the main character just to cash in some money. The fact that it's a very distant sequel doesn't help either. It's a poor bastard's excuse in Hollywood to do this. Terminator 3 is a good example. Sure it was a good movie critically, but answer the question: Was it necessary for it to be made, or was it just a cash-in movie?

 

[Hunter Rider]

Since there is no real valid argument for this, let's just say that I wouldn't want a Citizen Kane 2 or GoodFellas 2 starring other actors reprising characters of the movies or having brand new characters (Thinks about DTV sequels). For Bond, it's become so much of a Hollywood trend that it's different. Bond will continue to have at least 2 movies a decade for many years to come. That is not and never will be the case for Indy, Luke Skywalker, and others.

I don't think the 2 movies you mention there are the same,we are talking about action movie characters,created to live in a fantastical action universe.the only difference is,some are made from books and others are written straight to screen,if their is a story to tell for the character then i see no reason not to tell it.

I say leave them alone. Leave the Mad Max movies alone. It was meant to be a trilogy. Let it stay a trilogy, instead of making an unnecessary sequel that doesn't even star the main character just to cash in some money. The fact that it's a very distant sequel doesn't help either. It's a poor bastard's excuse in Hollywood to do this. Terminator 3 is a good example. Sure it was a good movie critically, but answer the question: Was it necessary for it to be made, or was it just a cash-in movie ?

Mad Max could have ended at movie 1,movie 2 happened b/c movie 1 was popular and 3 was just as much a dumb cash in as any other film you could mention.
As for Terminator 3,i think it entertained many and made money which are the 2 main reasons to make films plus it told a decent story so i see no harm in it being made.ALL films in this genre are made to cash in whether directly as a sequel/remake or as a riff on a movie that has hit big.

 

[BeserkerHilf]

first the escape from NY remake, now this without Mel?

can hollywood hear my heart breaking all the way out in philadelphia?

 

[Kritish]

This film will suck worse than Rocky Balboa...

 

[Lord Doom]

Are you tellin' me, that we're gonna have to sit through an ENTIRE Mad Max movie without seeing this face?:

 

[The Dark Defender]

This film will suck worse than Rocky Balboa...

Most films do, since that film was great.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I no longer like Mel after his drunk rage. I could care less.

 

[Catman]

It will, and feel free

What did you hate so much about Thunderdome? Was it the kids?!

you base this view off the fact one is an adaption and the other is wqritten specifically for screen?

Sure.

I no longer like Mel after his drunk rage. I could care less.

So, if you're flipping through channels and Lethal Weapon is playing on HBO you're gonna say, "I used to like this movie, but now I hate it. Damn you, Mel Gibson! "

 

[Batman1939]

I very much support Anti - jew warrior Melbourne Gibsons but not on this

 

[Batman1939]

double post

 

[blud_knight]

What did you hate so much about Thunderdome? Was it the kids?!

I have to choose one part?
Lets make it easy.
I liked the part in barter town where they made him hand in his guns, and it took 5 minutes, because he was armed like a post apocoliptic rambo.
the rest of the movie was "****". "not ****, fuel."

 

[Catman]

okay. You didn't really explain why you hated the movie. Most people hate the movie cause of the kids. Although the kids make perfect sense in the film's story. Yes, thats right, these films have a story.

 

[blud_knight]

i just thought the movie was under written, even for a mad max film. the kids were anoying, but also I felt like the story did not move an inch from the end of the road warrior.
the characters did not progress at all.
i just didn't like it.

 

[Catman]

Maybe the character didn't progress but the story definitly did! If you put all three Mad Max films together you'll see the big picture. In the first one everything was starting to fall apart, in the second everything did and everyone was trying to survive, and in the third it was about rebuilding.

 

[ゴジラ]

I don't know about this...I guess I will wait and see what develops

 

[Furious Styles]

I would have to think that James Bond is not the rule, but the exception. Of all the film roles and characters that have been played by different actors, the James Bond franchise has had the most success. To a lesser extent, Batman with Michael Keaton and Christian Bale has also had success.

Our culture is accustomed to a new actor becoming James Bond every generation. It's why the series has had such great longevity and is much apart of the character as the novels and films.

However, it's already been pointed out...Mel Gibson is Mad Max! He brought life to that role. You make a Mad Max film without him, and it is no longer a Mad Max film. That's how I feel about it. It's really the actor who takes the words from the page and brings the character to life on the screen. Although there may be many people capable of doing a good job, it really is Mel's role.

 

[Speedball]

Wait...so...Mel won't be Max...
That's like Depp not playing Sparrow, Damon not playing Bourne, Diesel not playing Riddick.
It just can't be done.
And if Jackman is Max, I will so sit this one out.
He's just getting on my nerves.

 

[batman7289]

god this movie is pointless

 

[Lord Doom]

okay. You didn't really explain why you hated the movie. Most people hate the movie cause of the kids. Although the kids make perfect sense in the film's story. Yes, thats right, these films have a story.

 

[vibeke_T]

probably wasn't bloody enough for him.

 

[Warhammer]

I would have to think that James Bond is not the rule, but the exception. Of all the film roles and characters that have been played by different actors, the James Bond franchise has had the most success. To a lesser extent, Batman with Michael Keaton and Christian Bale has also had success.

Our culture is accustomed to a new actor becoming James Bond every generation. It's why the series has had such great longevity and is much apart of the character as the novels and films.

However, it's already been pointed out...Mel Gibson is Mad Max! He brought life to that role. You make a Mad Max film without him, and it is no longer a Mad Max film. That's how I feel about it. It's really the actor who takes the words from the page and brings the character to life on the screen. Although there may be many people capable of doing a good job, it really is Mel's role.

I completely agree.

Bond is the only difference. It's just apart of Hollywood now. It is a trend, and always will be a trend. Batman is totally different, as they planned to make another movie with Burton and Keaton, but they both backed out. Hence why Schumacher and Kilmer replaced the previous as director and Batman, respectively. Characters like Indiana Jones (Not counting the Young Indy series) should and will only be played by Harrison Ford.

Wait...so...Mel won't be Max...
That's like Depp not playing Sparrow, Damon not playing Bourne, Diesel not playing Riddick.
It just can't be done.
And if Jackman is Max, I will so sit this one out.
He's just getting on my nerves.

Exactly.

god this movie is pointless

Exactly!
The fact that this is a very distant sequel doesn't help either.
It's almost like they sat in a room and were thinking of movies to just make sequels for.

Guy #1: I'm out of ideas.
Guy #2: Let's make a sequel!
Guy #3: Scratch that, make it a distant sequel.
Guy #4: I was watching The Road Warrior yesterday. Let's bring back Mad Max.
Guy #1: Mel is too old for it.
Guy #3: Yep, that's true.
Guy #2: So, let's do it anyway!

 

[Hunter Rider]

Mad Max was created on the page the same as Bond only one is screenplay and one in book form,people have become used to Bond recasting b/c it started in a time when ppl didn't endlessly moan as they do now,they just accepted on going stories with a new actor in the lead,like a new artist drawing a comic book,the lead doesn't look the same but each can bring something new to the table.

 

[Warhammer]

I don't think the 2 movies you mention there are the same,we are talking about action movie characters,created to live in a fantastical action universe.the only difference is,some are made from books and others are written straight to screen,if their is a story to tell for the character then i see no reason not to tell it.

What makes Darth Vader different from Henry Hill?
They are still movie characters. Fantastical action universe is not an excuse for recasting a character or making a sequel.
Again, is a 20+ year old movie in need of a sequel, especially since it doesn't even star the title character?

*Thinks about Starship Troopers 2, From Dusk Till Dawn 2/3, and other DTVs*

Mad Max could have ended at movie 1,movie 2 happened b/c movie 1 was popular and 3 was just as much a dumb cash in as any other film you could mention.

True, we always get a sequel with the acclaimed action movie. The Road Warrior even got more praise than Mad Max. We then got Thunderdome, which some people hate. Bottom line, we have a trilogy (which is generally it for any movie franchise). That's Hollywood. In main point is that these movies are 20+ years old. We don't need a distant sequel to a movie that came out in 1985.

As for Terminator 3,i think it entertained many and made money which are the 2 main reasons to make films plus it told a decent story so i see no harm in it being made.ALL films in this genre are made to cash in whether directly as a sequel/remake or as a riff on a movie that has hit big.

You're right.
T3 made money and was entertaining. I'm questioning whether the movie was necessary, not a cheap cash-in. James Cameron's creation was completed with T2. We didn't NEED T3. Hell, T3 made the first 2 movies pointless, for that matter.

Generally, sequels aren't cheap cash-ins. Cheap cash-ins are making sequels to 20+ year old movies, even going to the point of making a Mad Max movie without MAD MAX.

That's just my opinion.

 

[Road Warrior]

Mad Max was created on the page the same as Bond only one is screenplay and one in book form

You still don't get it. When Dr. No premiered in 1962 with Sean Connery in the role, the character had been around since the 1950s. People read the books and had a picture of James Bond in their head. In Mad Max's case we were introduced to the character though Mel Gibson's performance. For the past 25 years when we think of Mad Max, Mel Gibson, is the one who pops into our heads.

 

[Speedball]

Mad Max was created on the page the same as Bond only one is screenplay and one in book form,people have become used to Bond recasting b/c it started in a time when ppl didn't endlessly moan as they do now,they just accepted on going stories with a new actor in the lead,like a new artist drawing a comic book,the lead doesn't look the same but each can bring something new to the table.

But the last Bond film wasn't filmed more than 20 years ago. And there have only been three Max films, maybe if there were 7 or so, it would be understandable. If it's a reboot, than it might be ok.
It would be neat to see a story that takes place between Mad Max and the Road Warrior...