Manning Convicted of Biggest Breach of US Classified Data in US History

[NickNitro]

Manning wants to get married and have a family, attorney says

http://www.today.com/news/manning-wants-get-married-have-family-attorney-says-6C10984804

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Manning wants to get married and have a family, attorney says

http://www.today.com/news/manning-wants-get-married-have-family-attorney-says-6C10984804

Then he shouldn't have done what he did.

 

[Teelie]

What? Reveal the dirty secrets the government was keeping? Ones that it lied and decieved over? Being a whistle-blower is all fine and good unless you blow the whistle on government malfeasance. Then suddenly you're a traitor.

 

[Alex_Spider]

What? Reveal the dirty secrets the government was keeping? Ones that it lied and decieved over? Being a whistle-blower is all fine and good unless you blow the whistle on government malfeasance. Then suddenly you're a traitor.

Exactly. I agree.

 

[Ultimatehero]

I wish her all the best. Also really happy that she can get parole in 7 years. It'd be really sick if the government stripped her of her life for doing what was right in the people's best interests.

 

[Schlosser85]

There's something very screwed up about this country where someone who whistleblows war crimes gets 35 years, and someone who murdered 77 civilians get 21 years.

Somewhere along the way we stopped giving a **** about having the moral high ground.

We now attack sovereign nations and practice "interrogation tactics" that we condemned the Nazis for sixty years ago.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

There's something very screwed up about this country where someone who whistleblows war crimes gets 35 years, and someone who murdered 77 civilians get 21 years.

Somewhere along the way we stopped giving a **** about having the moral high ground.

We now attack sovereign nations and practice "interrogation tactics" that we condemned the Nazis for sixty years ago.

I'm pretty sure that the pic of that guy that got sentenced to 21 years is the pic of Anders Behring Breivig. He was responsible for the mass shooting in Norway where he killed 69 children at a youthcamp.

He's not an American and i don't think he ever visited the US, so can't blame your country for the fact that Breivig only got 22 years.That is the maximum penalty one can get in Norway.

 

[Alex_Spider]

I'm pretty sure that the pic of that guy that got sentenced to 21 years is the pic of Anders Behring Breivig. He was responsible for the mass shooting in Norway where he killed 69 children at a youthcamp.

He's not an American and i don't think he ever visited the US, so can't blame your country for the fact that Breivig only got 22 years.That is the maximum penalty one can get in Norway.

I don't get the Norwegian court system. We 're talking about a Nazi fanatic that hates with passion other nationalities and religions and I am pretty sure, once he is out he will try to mass murder again. Not to mention his Masonic past. He hasn't even regretted his actions.

What do they expect to accomplish by putting him behind bars just for 22 years? This man needs a serious psychological treatment and educational rehabilitation to realize his deadly actions of racism and killing.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

I don't get the Norwegian court system. We 're talking about a Nazi fanatic that hates with passion other nationalities and religions and I am pretty sure, once he is out he will try to mass murder again. Not to mention his Masonic past. He hasn't even regretted his actions.

What do they expect to accomplish by putting him behind bars just for 22 years? This man needs a serious psychological treatment and educational rehabilitation to realize his deadly actions of racism and killing.

Blame the European court of human rights.

As far as Breivig is concerned, his sentence is 22 years, which is like i said, the maximum that he can get in Norway, BUT the court can extend that indefinitely or as long as he's still considered to be dangerous.

 

[Alex_Spider]

Blame the European court of human rights.

As far as Breivig is concerned, his sentence is 22 years, which is like i said, the maximum that he can get in Norway, BUT the court can extend that indefinitely or as long as he's still considered to be dangerous.

Oh, OK then that makes more sense. It's just that dangerous psychos like Breivig, can pretend like they are good boys after behaving nice in prison or doing some extensive work and voluntary contribution to win more points and even get out of prison sooner than excepted. I would be very mad if that happened.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

Yeah he will get psychological treatment and such like during his 22 years incarceration, but if after those 22 years and he's still deemed to be a sick puppy, he'll stay for a few years more and so forth.

Chances are, he's never gonna leave prison since he's proud of what he's done...that sick bastard.

 

[Alex_Spider]

Still, Manning is treated unfair and he shouldn't be considered a traitor or a dangerous criminal. And even if the example of Breivig was not the best to contrast the unfair prosecution of Manning, I could mention instead, all those Drug Lords or Pimps in the U.S. or the corrupted officials and congressmen that that get out of prison after a few years or don't get prosecuted at all.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Yeah he will get psychological treatment and such like during his 22 years incarceration, but if after those 22 years and he's still deemed to be a sick puppy, he'll stay for a few years more and so forth.

Chances are, he's never gonna leave prison since he's proud of what he's done...that sick bastard.

Right... she's "sick" for exposing soldiers having a sadistic good time celebrating their massacre of innocent people among other war crimes and she's the "sick" one. I'm betting you'd feel a lot more better if the country's acts against its people and others would go unnoticed. Our Founding Fathers would call him one thing - and it's not a criminal - it's a patriot.

 

[Schlosser85]

Right... she's "sick" for exposing soldiers having a sadistic good time celebrating their massacre of innocent people among other war crimes and she's the "sick" one.

.....he was talking about the mass murderer in Norway, not Manning.

 

[Ultimatehero]

.....he was talking about the mass murderer in Norway, not Manning.

Oh, gotcha. Didn't really catch that part. Just on a lot of other sites, it's what I've seen others have said about Manning.

 

[Alex_Spider]

I had come across some long ago this news about some rapes from US soldiers. I wonder do they have something to do with Manning? I apologize if this has been brought up before.

http://worldobserveronline.com/2013/06/13/rape-iraqi-women-us-forces-weapon-war-photos-data-emerge/

'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ld-girl-killing-her-family.html#ixzz2cpqZkzZw
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[Thundercrack85]

The issue with Manning is that he released all this information indiscriminately. Not to mention to whom, which brings his motivation in to question. If Manning had for example only released the tapes of Baghdad Airstrike (and the other more controversial videos), to let's say some newspaper (.e.g Reuters), he would have still gotten in trouble, but it would be radically different.

Manning released like 250,000 diplomatic cables, and 500,000 military logs. That's the issue. They had to throw the book at him.

 

[Alex_Spider]

The issue with Manning is that he released all this information indiscriminately. Not to mention to whom, which brings his motivation in to question. If Manning had for example only released the tapes of Baghdad Airstrike (and the other more controversial videos), to let's say some newspaper (.e.g Reuters), he would have still gotten in trouble, but it would be radically different.

Manning released like 250,000 diplomatic cables, and 500,000 military logs. That's the issue. They had to throw the book at him.

You got a point. But the man was obviously desperate to do something to end this dirty and unjustified war, as he saw firsthand the atrocities of the political and corporate interests that drove this war. He just couldn't stop. I don't think anyone in his position would stand calm and choose what do leak and what not. Either he would give it all or nothing.

By the way I like a comment I just read:

60 minutes busted several politicians on an insider trading scheme and not one person was arrested. They were actually voting on issues that could (and did) affect their stock prices to the tune of millions of dollars. When will they be arrested? Oh, that's right, never.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

Right... she's "sick" for exposing soldiers having a sadistic good time celebrating their massacre of innocent people among other war crimes and she's the "sick" one. I'm betting you'd feel a lot more better if the country's acts against its people and others would go unnoticed. Our Founding Fathers would call him one thing - and it's not a criminal - it's a patriot.

...lemme guess...you've read only the word 'sick'and you immidiately popped a vein without even bothering reading the rest of my post

 

[Ultimatehero]

...lemme guess...you've read only the word 'sick'and you immidiately popped a vein without even bothering reading the rest of my post

Just used to hearing it from all over the web in regards to this, so without a name being mentioned and no quote to indicate what its replying too - and the forum its in - I thought you just got the years wrong. A name or directly quoting something would have made it a lot easier to see. But, like I've already said, it's on me.

 

[Thundercrack85]

You got a point. But the man was obviously desperate to do something to end this dirty and unjustified war, as he saw firsthand the atrocities of the political and corporate interests that drove this war. He just couldn't stop. I don't think anyone in his position would stand calm and choose what do leak and what not. Either he would give it all or nothing.

By the way I like a comment I just read:

Considering the thousands who have access to that classified network? Eh.

I don't know what his motivations were. Seems to be a mix of personal issues, and maybe some moral outrage. But he really blew it. Maybe he thought he'd be seen as a whistleblower (obviously he is in some circles).

I expect Obama will commute his sentence when he leaves office. Perhaps even a pardon, but that seems unlikely, since he's done nothing for him since this whole thing started.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

A pardon? Commuted sentence?

lol, Obama hates whistleblowers/leakers.

 

[Godzilla2000]

I don't know why but I was thinking of the NFL's Manning brothers when I read this title. Silly me...

 

[Alex_Spider]

In the end it doesn't matter if it is Obama or another President. Manning's fate would be the same regardless. The President is usually there to be a frontman, to sign what he is ordered to, or better, "advised" by his political counselors and corporate interests. He can't arrive into any desicions or go against the will of so many people that are in charge.

 

[Teelie]

Normally I'd disagree with that but I've seen so much political doublespeak and backpedaling from a President (Dem or Rep) I don't doubt that's far from the truth anymore.