Marie Antoinette

[Vic Von Doom]

Has anyone else seen this yet? I just got back from the theatre and wow...is it a piece of trash. Some people with accents, some people without...some classical music soundtrack, some contemporary. NO story. NO arc. She gets there. And she parties. Her husband won't sleep with her, then he does. She parties. Has an affair. Parties some more. Then France gets mad at her and they leave. No beheading, implied or otherwise.

I mean...wow. Awful. And not just me, I engaged fellow moviegoers in conversation after the film, and I was not the only one entertaining notions of walking out. All of them hated it. I really disliked Virgin Suicides, but was entranced by Lost In Translation.

"Cool," I thought. "A young filmmaker is finding her voice. A lot of people liked Suicides even though I didn't, but wow, this was really good. And what's this? An ambitious, contemporary styled telling of the story of Marie Antoinette? I'm in."

If you are like me, and that train of thought crossed your mind, avoid this film like the plague. If you are not like me and loved both of Sofia's previous films, avoid this drivel like the plague. If you hated Suicides and thought Translation was a boring, pretentious yawnfest? Well, guess what...more of the same.

 

[Space Moose]

Let them eat cake!

 

[Bastila]

^

haha I saw it thought it was ok, wanted to see her

Spoiler

head chopped off as that what happens to her

 

[hippie_hunter]

Funny fact, Louis XVI did not know that you are supposed to sleep with your wife on your wedding night.

 

[Bastila]

Funny fact, Louis XVI did not know that you are supposed to sleep with your wife on your wedding night.

lol, that was funny she was up for it he was like I like making Keys lol.

 

[Kmack]

I loved it:heart: Definitely the hate it/love it movie of the year

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I think a lot of the critics are overlooking the fact that the movie not meant as a strict historical drama. It's a portrait of the woman by today's standards.

 

[Darthphere]

Is is true there was a scene where you could see the boom for like 5 seconds?

 

[Vic Von Doom]

Is is true there was a scene where you could see the boom for like 5 seconds?

It's possible, but it was probably during the time I was staring at my cell phone clock wondering when the movie was going to end.

What did you like about the film? No, really, I want to know. Explain it to me, kmack.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

That boom mic anamoly could be bad framing on part of the projectionist, I believe is what I read.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Is is true there was a scene where you could see the boom for like 5 seconds?

They should be able to take that out with CGI no problem.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I heard it sucked but the cinematography was amazing.

 

[cryptic name]

was there nudity in this?

 

[Kmack]

The costumes are also amazing

 

[Kmack]

was there nudity in this?

Yeah, a shot of Dunst backside.

 

[cryptic name]

Yeah, a shot of Dunst backside.

only backside?

 

[Ronny Shade]

Backside's all you see when you do it doggystyle

 

[Kmack]

I think a lot of the critics are overlooking the fact that the movie not meant as a strict historical drama. It's a portrait of the woman by today's standards.

Exactly, and Ebert covers the majority of the critics gripes really well http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061019/REVIEWS/610190303

 

[Caliber]

It looks ok but its flaw is that it ignores history in order to make Marie look innocent. She was a terrible queen and got what she deserved. This would have made a great period but the music doesn't look like it fits.

 

[Kmack]

It looks ok but its flaw is that it ignores history in order to make Marie look innocent. She was a terrible queen and got what she deserved. This would have made a great period but the music doesn't look like it fits.

Well maybe you should consider watching the 1938 costume drama starring Norma Shearer

 

[Vic Von Doom]

It looks ok but its flaw is that it ignores history in order to make Marie look innocent. She was a terrible queen and got what she deserved. This would have made a great period but the music doesn't look like it fits.

I don't think that's true. She isn't made to look innocent at all. She is constantly partying, gambling excessively, and otherwise spending France's money. She also has an affair.

As to Ebert... this one made sense to me.
7. Coppola has been criticized in some circles for her use of a contemporary pop overlay -- hit songs, incongruous dialogue, jarring intrusions of the Now upon the Then. But no one ever lives as Then; it is always Now. Many characters in historical films seem somehow aware that they are living in the past. Marie seems to think she is a teenager living in the present, which of course she is -- and the contemporary pop references invite the audience to share her present with ours. Forman's "Amadeus" had a little of that, with its purple wigs.

That's a very good point. But there are only about two or maybe three contemporary pieces in the film, the rest are classical piano. So make the whole film with a contemporary soundtrack. Have everyone speak in a French accent, or no one. It's just inconsistent.

 

[green]

That's a very good point. But there are only about two or maybe three contemporary pieces in the film, the rest are classical piano. So make the whole film with a contemporary soundtrack. Have everyone speak in a French accent, or no one. It's just inconsistent.

Actually there's alot more than 2 or 3, the problem is some of them are pretty obscure and sound like period pieces, The Aphex Twin stuff especially. I agree with you though, it's really the one nit-pick I have is that she should have pushed the pop music a little harder in places.

 

[Bastila]

The costumes are also amazing

Yeah they where great and the cake lol and the muisc was ok all like 80's.

 

[Dangerous]

I thought it sucked s-hit.

 

[jaguarr]

No matter whether this was supposed to be a period piece or a commentary on the modern woman, I've thought this film looked like absolute tripe from the moment I saw the first trailer. I'm gonna skip this one.

jag