"Market Forces" Discussion Thread

Rate "Market Forces"

  • 5: Awesome!

  • 4: I was great, nice Shocker.

  • 3: Nothing "Spectacular".

  • 2: Whatever.

  • 1: Crap! I hated Montana as Shocker!

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pacmaster3000 said:
He wasn't in ALL the movie games either. But still, great review!
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Dread said:
Thanks. Wasn't he in at least 2 of the 3 movie games, though?
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"Two out of three ain't bad" :hyper::oldrazz:

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Ok, thanks to today's tech, i was able to catch the Shocker episode! Like Ultimate Spider-Man the comic, this show is kinda geared towards those fans a tad more than us ol' school 616'ers! Never the less, there's something for everybody to enjoy with SS. Anyway, another great episode with the introduction of the Shocker- although it's not Herman Schultz, they still did a good job of making us forgive that fact by giving him some great lines, and more badassedness in a rebel cowboy way. Also, Peter's relationships with his friends is starting to deteriorate, first with Gwen, and now Eddie and Harry are following suit due to his new double life as Spider-Man. I also like the way they're portraying Hammerhead, not a stupid Mafiaso-smuck, but more mysterious and in control. Norman Osborn is definitely a nod to the Willem Dafoe/Norman Osborn portrayal, and that's perfect for me! I eagerly await the next episode, and the next villian!
 
for me spidey gets the most important thing right, not 'spider' but 'MAN'.
the supporting cast development is superb and should be studied by creators of super'man' and bat'man' where dc's flagship characters and supporting cast don't grow and evolve.
 
spider-neil said:
the supporting cast development is superb and should be studied by creators of super'man' and bat'man' where dc's flagship characters and supporting cast don't grow and evolve.
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They don't?
 
lol he may be a boy but he is spiderman u got ot remember he was a teen in the classic just like ultimate and all that.
 
Yeah, but the reason one could consider him Spider-Boy is not because of his age, but because he's very inexperienced as a hero and isn't fully matured.
 
Exactly. I wasn't dissing him at all. I find the fact that he's growing up one of the show's most endearing qualities. Even though the fact that he's remained 15 for the past 7 years in the Ultimate-verse has gotten on my nerves.
 
Well u got to remember ultimate title is moving at a slower timeline. Hell if u look at it from the 60s-modern of 616 spidey he has only aged like 15-18 yrs.
 
True BUT when every new Ultimates saga takes place one year after the previous one and sPidey cameos in such things, it stretches belief that only a couple of months passed since Uncle Ben got gunned down.
 
well the ultimates book is different that one it is bases a yr or two yrs later. Where as uff/usm/uxmen are set in the same time peroid with each other.
 
Ratcrawler said:
Exactly. I wasn't dissing him at all. I find the fact that he's growing up one of the show's most endearing qualities. Even though the fact that he's remained 15 for the past 7 years in the Ultimate-verse has gotten on my nerves.
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I think that for most shows or for most stories the characters need to be seen actually getting older and maturing.
 
think about it, you've seen peter graduate, leave home get a job get married have a kid (albeit one he knows nothing about).

superman and batman have been stuck at 30 years of age like forever, admittedly one got married and the old has a kid (illegitimate I might add) they (the characters) are basically set in stone and haven't evolved in over 50 years of story telling.
 
spider-neil said:
think about it, you've seen peter graduate, leave home get a job get married have a kid (albeit one he knows nothing about).

superman and batman have been stuck at 30 years of age like forever, admittedly one got married and the old has a kid (illegitimate I might add) they (the characters) are basically set in stone and haven't evolved in over 50 years of story telling.
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Well to be fair only 20 years of the continuity counts due to the reboot in 1986. The characters have definitely evolved during that time.
 
he had a kid lol but it was taken/killed i dont really know the whole story on that, but then also it doesnt matter since brand new day altered 616 spidey history from 89-now. And we dont know what is totally different since they havent revealed all the changes to his history yet.
 
Just watched the ep....

I have to say the parts with pete are probably going to be more interesting than his bits as parker.

they should name this show the spectacular peter parker.

There does need to be a balance though and I'm still not seeing how spidey is striking fear into the hearts of criminals. Perhaps they are overusing the other rogues they are having and not using enough ordinary bad guys. They havent had pete just saving some random person on the street yet or noticed the crowd/civilian reaction to spidey (especially aunt may's).

shocker worked great though, liked how he could control his blasts and they also worked as a shield, he probably went down way too easily considering he was powerful enough to cause earthquakes, the linear patter was too easy to find out, they should have used a mathematical code like the fibonnaci sequence of something of that order.

a quilt reference is really needed in a shocker debut though and that goes against the 90s show as well.

decent ep but if it was all about peter and there was no spidey, it would have been probably better.
 
spider-neil said:
for me spidey gets the most important thing right, not 'spider' but 'MAN'.
the supporting cast development is superb and should be studied by creators of super'man' and bat'man' where dc's flagship characters and supporting cast don't grow and evolve.
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The DCAU would like a word with you.
 
Marvel fans read comics to analyze continuity, DC fans read comics for the stories.

My only concern with the episode is that now it seems that Norman Osbourne will pretty much be behind the creation of all of the villians, which gives him a retro Shredder feel. Soon they should establish the Spider HQ where an alarm sounds when the city is in danger.
 
I live in the UK so have had to depend on You Tube to keep up with this series so far, still I've managed to see all of the episodes so far and have been really impressed with them all.

I've been a Spider-Man fan since I was about eleven (I'm twenty seven now) so I'm really familiar with all the characters, even some of the more obscure ones. I quite like the fact they made Montana into Shocker, even though it's not particularly accurate to the comics it was a cool surprise and was something long term fans wouldn't have expected to see. Which is especially nice since most Spider-Man toons seem to cover the same ground in their early days, the Doc Ock origin episode, the Green Goblin origin episode, the Scorpion one. It was nice to see something I wasn't expecting.

I'm not too bothered by the fact it's not comic accurate since to me this is just an interpritation of the Spidey Universe, like Ultimate Spidey is just an interpritation. I don't see the problem with that as long as the stories are well told and the characters are well done.
 
Webhead2006 said:
well the ultimates book is different that one it is bases a yr or two yrs later. Where as uff/usm/uxmen are set in the same time peroid with each other.
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some times the marvel comics time lines can be too confusing @_@
 
Was Tri-corp a company in the comics, cause I don't remember? I don't think it was.
 
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