Sequels Marvel Studios' Spider-Man

Just make it the same quality as breaking bad. Besides, spiderman wasnt that light hearted to begin with. Heck, arrow is also getting attention so why can't spiderman?

All of those superheroes have TV series for now because they aren't on the same playing field as Spider-Man.

Spider-Man earns studios a lot of money even with subpar films, so they're going to continue pushing out Spidey flicks as long as they can (even if they have a TV series on the side).
 
All of those superheroes have TV series for now because they aren't on the same playing field as Spider-Man.

Spider-Man earns studios a lot of money even with subpar films, so they're going to continue pushing out Spidey flicks as long as they can (even if they have a TV series on the side).

with the reboot they have to focus on making the films great by hiring great creators like john logan and aaron sorkin and also hire drew goddard as one of the producers of the entire spiderman movies and also hire drew goddard for TASM 3. they also have to give them creative freedom inorder for the films to work so as a result sony can earn the big bucks and keep the rights.

but anyway, spiderman as a t series can succeed even commerically. people have wanted spiderman back to marvel and they all want to see something done with him so a tv series even with higher talents won't be a problem :) especially since i can sense they are gonna make it breaking bad quality since that show is so great it has a guinness world record of best shows
 
My suggestion would be to go with a semi-established Spider-Man in this scenario. Something where Peter has been active as Spider-Man for a year or two, but has only been dealing with petty crooks and what not, so he hasn't attracted that much attention.

As for a villain, I'd go big and start with Dr. Octopus right off the bat.
 
Personally, I would rather see Spider-Man introduced in the MCU in a Spider-Man TV series as opposed to another movie series.
 
I hope if they get the rights back to Marvel they carry on from the current series I'm not ready for a second reboot in 5 years
 
Spider-Knight said:
because i sure as hell don't. i mean what's thepoint in adding him to the team in the MCU or the movie in general. he's not the smart4est since they have tony and whoeever else are on the team. he's not the strongest either. he's kinda quicker than them and more agile but overall spiderman was never a founding member of the team nor would it matter where he was during the invasion. where were the other heroes? what about daredevil , dcotr strange, moon knight, the F4, luke cage, iron fist, war machine, the new warriors, nova, etc.?it's the marvel universe full of every superhero and super villain imaginable. does it really matter that much where spiderman was. i mean spiderman is the most popular character but at the same time me nor shoulkd you guys ever give a **** about this. infact, even if spiderman or andrew playing him appearing in the avengers 3 the movie won't even break billions because of that. not even close. infact, he'll be reduced to a cameo leading to his latest tv series because that's where the character works best at.

anyone else agree with me on this? what are all your thoughts?

I'm with you Spidey is best alone for me. I don't want him in the MCU
 
Spidey could still be alone and in the MCU. They're not mutually exclusive ideas.
 
Some things I would like to see:

1) No origin. It has been done and in SM1 done very well. Everybody has seen it and knows it. Reference it, but don't redo the whole story. He's already Spider-Man when the series starts.

2) Parker is in college or is a recent grad. He was only a high schooler for a tiny fraction of his history.

3) A proper 616 Green Goblin with a proper 616-esque costume.

4) I would redo the Gwen Stacy arc, since it was botched so badly in the ASM series. But make it more of a slow burn. Third film at the earliest. MJ would be introduced at least one film before Gwen dies.

5) Ditch the parents completely. Ben and May are his parents, with Norman as a surrogate father figure.

6) Peter is best friends with Harry from the beginning.

7) Peter already works at the Daily Bugle, and it and Jonah play a significant role in the series.

8) I would start off by not only doing things that Sony didn't, but also that they couldn't. If I was in charge, my first film would be a Spider-Man/Daredevil crossover with Kingpin as the main villain. Marvel would need to do something different to create some buzz, while not straying from who the characters are.

I agree with all of these except 4 + 8.

I think the Gwen story was done well with ASM2 as Peter should have let her go but he loved her and didnt want to lose her like so many other loved ones in his life and by making her stay was a catalyst in her demise. This makes his choice to continue being Spider-Man harder but eventually more selfless.

As for 8 I wouldnt want Spidey OR DareDevil to have to share a movie just to be different, it would be a drawback for both characters...the somewhere down the line in both heros separate franchises? HELL YEAH.

Create some real depth and avoid doing origin to villain all in the same film.

Origin to villain in the same film isnt the problem - storytelling is.

After all, Raimis Harry didnt become the villain until Spidey 3 and they still botched it.

I say have some villains already existing in this universe like The Joker in The Dark Knight.
 
What I'd want from a Marvel Studio's Spider-Man is very different to what we'd likely get.

What I'd want would be for Marvel to announce a big-budget Netflix series - Marvel's Ultimate Spider-Man - that would feature Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man. I'd base it under the assumption that ASM2 definitely didn't happen, but that the first could have done - Spidey would be established, Uncle Ben dead, etc. Some villains already established too - Lizard, Kraven, etc. Not everyone needs an origin. Norman Osborn would be alive and well, and head to Oscorp - and the series would see his transformation into the Green Goblin fairly early on. Gwen would be killed 4 or 5 episodes in, and Mary Jane can be introduced later on. Harry would just be Harry, at least at first. The series would follow Peter's juggling of his dual lives, finding his place in a world of superheroes, honouring Uncle Ben's advice. Throughout the series villains would be established - Shocker, Hydro-Man, Doc Ock, etc. The series arc however would be focused on the dynamic between Spider-Man and the Green Goblin. Peter tracking Gwen's killer down and ultimately stopping them.

What would be best though would be the fact characters such as Daredevil and the Kingpin could cross over from the other series. Spider-Man could meet all kinds of new characters, and the series would feel like it's part of a bigger world, even though the Avengers aren't popping up every five minutes. End the series with something big - like, Captain America meeting Spider-Man. An iconic scene like that would be fantastic. And then, to really populate this universe, introduce characters such as Eddie Brock, Felicia Hardy, Miles Morales. They don't all have to become who we will know them to be in the series - but the fact they exist, and are a part of this bigger universe, opens up endless possibilities. The wackiness of Guardians for example means a symbiote from space should be no problem. There's so many possibilities, and I haven't even scratched the surface.

Oh, and of course, Peter Capaldi for JJ Jameson. No question.
 
Same. With how huge his mythos is the character works best for a tv series.

I agree that spidey works best in episodic adventures but i dunno... im not saying effects are everything but I don't relish the thought of akward tv effects. Spider-man can be done as a movie just fine, even if one considers previous directors failiures at the job
 
Peter Capaldi for JJ Jameson. No question.

he might slightly resemble a Ditko-drawn JJJ... but a SCTSMAN as JJ?!?... I doubt if he can even ATTEMPT to pull off an American accent... nor would I WANT him to...

wow... Doctor Who as Jonah... :doh: now I've heard it all...
 
If you only know him for Doctor Who that's very upsetting, and far, far from his best work.
 
Origin to villain in the same film isnt the problem - storytelling is.

After all, Raimis Harry didnt become the villain until Spidey 3 and they still botched it.

I say have some villains already existing in this universe like The Joker in The Dark Knight.

It depends on what villain we're talking about. If it's more a top tier villain such as Ock or Green Goblin, then yes, they shouldn't do an origin story in the same film that he becomes a villain. Mostly because those characters deserve a deeper back story and should have developing arcs over a movie or two and secondly because origin to villain in the same film, it's been done so often. They should attempt to create something different that doesn't follow the trend of just about every other Spidey movie.

Harry's arc was probably the best thing to come out of those films and the only part they messed up on was the visual design and the amnesia bit. Critical items or not, his buildup to becoming a villain was very satisfying.

The Joker is in a league all by himself as in, he works best with no backstory. Off the top of my head, I can't think of another A-lister type villain that matches Joker's level of greatness that also just 'exists.' He's one-of-a-kind. And especially when we're talking about the Spider-Man rogues, the major players all have these deep and nuanced back stories. It'd be more difficult to pull off those type of characters if they just simply 'existed.' However, I do agree that there are a handful of some of the lesser known villains that could work in that already 'exists' scenario.
 
If you only know him for Doctor Who that's very upsetting, and far, far from his best work.

I know Capaldi from PLENTY other things, I just happened to reference his current work.... and I STILL say Capaldi can no way perform an American accent, much less JJ's blowhard and bellowy voice...
 
Maybe the accent could be a struggle, but he could definitely embody the other elements of JJJ's personality.
 
I'm always worried about crappy effects on TV no matter how many times I am proven wrong. But what makes Spidey pretty awesome for TV is how big of a rogues gallery he has, who eventually either team up together or take root and create long standing problems.

If there is one thing I'd love to see in live action from Spidey's corner its Kraven.
 
The Flash is another popular TV series going on right now and I'm surprised at how well the special effects have been going so far.

I don't know how web-swinging would work, but it's worth a shot. Personally, however, I'd rather see Spidey in the best quality we could get, such as the swinging we saw in the beginning of TASM2.
 
Practical web swinging would also be possible, but would likely be expensive too.
 
Marvel definitely has the rights for the animated Spider-Man on the small screen. Do Marvel have the rights to make a live action series on the small screen? Do they have the rights to make Spider-Man cameo in Daredevil (for example) without Sony's permission?
 
Nope. People seem to think that Movie and TV rights are different things - they're not. Hence Fox making an X-Men show - the studios own live action rights to their characters in all mediums, seemingly.
 
Nope. People seem to think that Movie and TV rights are different things - they're not. Hence Fox making an X-Men show - the studios own live action rights to their characters in all mediums, seemingly.

Now that makes sense. Marvel have a sea of live action TV shows and due respect to those characters a Spider-Man live action show would bring in most ratings so that is what you would lead with but Marvel don't have the rights and Sony don't have the desire or money (or both).
 
I'd also add that they should introduce as many side-characters as they can early on and build on them throughout the films.

Not just the 'friendlies' i.e. Sally Avril, Flash, Liz Allen, etc. but also the villains. Introduce the antagonists a movie or two ahead of their 'transformation' into the villain. Create some real depth and avoid doing origin to villain all in the same film.

That's one thing I hated about all five of the previous movies. Peter or Spider-Man had some pre-existing relationship with everyone of his villains before they got their powers. If the world's full of super heroes and villains the power and responsibility thing would play out better if he's stopping some of these guys simply because they're bad, he's good and he has the power to take them down.

Spider-Man's the problem and needs to go away if he has a hand in every villain's origin.
 
That's one thing I hated about all five of the previous movies. Peter or Spider-Man had some pre-existing relationship with everyone of his villains before they got their powers. If the world's full of super heroes and villains the power and responsibility thing would play out better if he's stopping some of these guys simply because they're bad, he's good and he has the power to take them down.

Spider-Man's the problem and needs to go away if he has a hand in every villain's origin.

Yes! Exactly! Not everything needs to be friggin tied together
 

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