McDonald's Dollar Menu Goes Bye Bye

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I think McDonalds in the UK put up their prices a while back. It used to be £1 for a McFlurry, but not it's £1.19. And it's £4.39 for 20 McNuggets I think...

The McNuggets are the only thing that matters, and even then thats only at 2/3am when I'm drunk...

Look, I know pretty much everything on the McDonalds' menu can be exposed as something pretty gross when you get down to it, but McNuggets take it to a new level. The average McNugget contains the flesh (or flesh product, but I'll get to that) of over a dozen chickens. Less than half of the mulched flesh has any muscle, which is what you'd normally eat when you have chicken. Most of it is fat, nerve cells, blood vessels, cartilage and bone. Well, at least it's animal product. Better than all the chemicals and preservatives.

And if you're still in a hankering mood, there is of course this occasional surprise:

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Yeah whats the problem with it being horse and not cow meat? I mean, labeling it wrong is one thing. But from what I remember of fast food (and meat in general) nasty meat is nasty meat.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Yeah whats the problem with it being horse and not cow meat? I mean, labeling it wrong is one thing. But from what I remember of fast food (and meat in general) nasty meat is nasty meat.

Personally I'd be more concerned about what hormones were being injected into it, what its living conditions were and its food source (wasn't mad-cow disease originally caused by cows, meant to be herbivores, being fed the bone-meal and brain tissue of other cows). Most importantly, I'd be concerned about how it was slaughtered. A lot of potentially deadly e.coli and salmonella is caused by fecally contaminated meat, the result of unclean slaughterhouses. As for does the type of meat matter? I think if anything, horse meat is cleaner and healthier than cows (having a much lower fat-content). But the other guy was right. Meat shouldn't be mislabelled. Though it's silly people get so hung up on that, and let all the other disturbing stuff go.

 

[Pink Ranger]

The 17€ burger come from restaurant or "brasserie", the quality is much much higher than a fast food and for this price you can have foi gras, avocados, "real" meat, a nice triming ( I hope it is the proper word ) and tasty. I also work at La Defense, prices are higher and 17€ is the highest priced burger in this area ( it is around 14/15€ otherwise ).

Foie Gras on a burger?! Then 17 euros is a bargain then! Over here, to get foie gras on a burger, it ends up costing just over $50.

I don't eat it myself for ethical reasons, but in principle that is a good deal.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Note : there is foie gras and fois gras, the one you got in your burger isn't the premium product. There are several "levels" of foie gras, full foie gras ( the whole thing ), block ( there are pieces of full foie gras ) and "reconstituted" ( I don't have a better word to describe it ).

About the ethical reason, I understand perfectly. AFAIC, I don't find the production method more barbarian than the meat production, unless we're talking about illegal production.

 

[Teelie]

Personally I'd be more concerned about what hormones were being injected into it, what its living conditions were and its food source (wasn't mad-cow disease originally caused by cows, meant to be herbivores, being fed the bone-meal and brain tissue of other cows).

Pretty much this. Horses are treated with antibiotics that are toxic for human use. So assuming you don't mind eating horse, you still have the roulette wheel of is it made from unsanitary horse meat of questionable origin?

 

[NickNitro]

Carry a plastic bag from Uncle Lester's Adult VHS Emporium in your car to put your McDonald's bag in. There's no price on your dignity, man.

That couldn't be a better idea. That's happening from now on. Thanks!

Made me think of this

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

The reason Burger King is called Hungry Jacks in Australia is because the name was already trademarked by another takeaway food company before Burger King started opening fast food restaurants in Australia.

It wouldn't even make sense that they would not use the name in Australia because of the Queen when Burger King is the name in England, Canada and every other country the Queen is head of state of.

Well then I blame the locals that told me that, I specifically asked why they were selling Whoppers at a place other than BK and that was the response I was given. Typical mess with the American I guess

 

[NickNitro]

The reason Burger King is called Hungry Jacks in Australia is because the name was already trademarked by another takeaway food company before Burger King started opening fast food restaurants in Australia.

It wouldn't even make sense that they would not use the name in Australia because of the Queen when Burger King is the name in England, Canada and every other country the Queen is head of state of.

They could of just been "The Real Burger King"

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yeah whats the problem with it being horse and not cow meat? I mean, labeling it wrong is one thing. But from what I remember of fast food (and meat in general) nasty meat is nasty meat.

Well, horses are considered by many to be companion animals, rather than livestock. A lot of people would refuse to eat them. And if they had known they were buying horse meat, they wouldn't have bought it.

I know I wouldn't.

 

[NickNitro]

The fact that all of these food chains can safely get away with the processed garbage they distribute to the masses goes to show you how the mighty $ rules over moral decency and common sense

Did you know apparently Taco Bell can't call their meat, meat?

 

[Thundercrack85]

The fact that all of these food chains can safely get away with the processed garbage they distribute to the masses goes to show you how the mighty $ rules over moral decency and common sense

Did you know apparently Taco Bell can't call their meat, meat?

I believe they have to legally call it sand with some meat particles.

 

[O_B_Juan]

They should just serve camel meat.

 

[Teelie]

Did you know apparently Taco Bell can't call their meat, meat?

Pretty sure that's an urban myth. Of course what they are calling meat is another question entirely.

 

[NickNitro]

http://newsone.com/998695/what-is-in-taco-bell-meat-beef/

From Gizmodo:
According to the USDA, they can’t call their mixture “beef” at all. Beef is defined by the USDA as “flesh of cattle”, and ground beef is defined as:Chopped fresh and/or frozen beef with or without seasoning and without the addition of beef fat as such, shall not contain more than 30 percent fat, and shall not contain added water, phosphates, binders, or extenders.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Ya I think after the whole expose on the Taco "meat" they barely bumped up the recipe so that it was at the legal limit of what can be called meat if I recall correctly.

But my god how I do love a gordita supreme and a Doritos locos supreme taco.

Although apparently if you try to microwave their cheese it won't melt, so yay for Taco Bell!

 

[NickNitro]

I hate to love fast food, I really do.

 

[Vid Electricz]

Yeah whats the problem with it being horse and not cow meat? I mean, labeling it wrong is one thing. But from what I remember of fast food (and meat in general) nasty meat is nasty meat.

You're missing the key component. Horses are cuter than cows and therefore NOT okay to eat.

Pretty much this. Horses are treated with antibiotics that are toxic for human use. So assuming you don't mind eating horse, you still have the roulette wheel of is it made from unsanitary horse meat of questionable origin?

Good thing that that the cows are only treated with hormones, antibiotics and steroids that are so good for humans!

 

[Tanin]

You're missing the key component. Horses are cuter than cows and therefore NOT okay to eat.

But the cute factor is what makes it taste all so much better!

 

[NickNitro]

Yes they are treated with those things but they know beef is meant to be eaten so what they do put in it wont kill you

Any antibiotics given to horses dont go through health tests for humans because they aren't meant to be eaten.

 

[Teelie]

http://newsone.com/998695/what-is-in-taco-bell-meat-beef/

From Gizmodo:
According to the USDA, they can’t call their mixture “beef” at all. Beef is defined by the USDA as “flesh of cattle”, and ground beef is defined as:Chopped fresh and/or frozen beef with or without seasoning and without the addition of beef fat as such, shall not contain more than 30 percent fat, and shall not contain added water, phosphates, binders, or extenders.

That's a lawsuit that as I recall was dropped because they couldn't prove it. From two years ago. It was a big headline with lots of big claims that never went to court.

I'm not a big fan of Taco Bell's practices either but I also think there should be truth and accuracy in claims made against them. If they are brought to court, I'd very much like to know what constitutes meat in their products.

You're missing the key component. Horses are cuter than cows and therefore NOT okay to eat.

Good thing that that the cows are only treated with hormones, antibiotics and steroids that are so good for humans!

The antibiotics, steroids and hormones used in cows are at least not unknown quantities that have been shown to be harmful and not something like the stuff given to horses that are dangerous.

Condemn the use of antibiotics, steroids and hormones in cattle all you want, but like the previous quote, at least have something valid and proven to claim.

There is a definite overuse of antibiotics in cattle leading to resistance to them and possibly steroids as well but hormones aren't as big an issue (outside scaring people).

 

[Vid Electricz]

Yes they are treated with those things but they know beef is meant to be eaten so what they do put in it wont kill you

Any antibiotics given to horses dont go through health tests for humans because they aren't meant to be eaten.

Not immediately anyway...

I will now Patiently await the everything gives you cancer nowadays anyway! defense.

 

[Teelie]

I could point you to the articles about it but you seem to already know them.

 

[NickNitro]

Not immediately anyway...

I will now Patiently await the everything gives you cancer nowadays anyway! defense.

This isn't a debate whether fast food beef will kill you or not, we know its bad for your health. This was an argument that whatever steroids, antibiotics that are given to horses by their owners aren't run through the same health regulations that whatever "beef" product McDonalds and the like give. Like I said before that horse meat wasn't meant to be put in the "beef" products for people to consume. So to say "well fast food will kill you anyway" is just turning your cheek on a wrong doing and a major health concern.

 

[chamber-music]

The problem with the horse meat scandal in Europe was that the horses used were not bred for human consumption. Inspectors also found the banned anti-inflammatory horse drug phenylbutazone, or "bute", in 0.5% of horsemeat tested.

There isn't anything wrong with eating horse if that is what your told you are eating and has been bred for that purpose.